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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:39 PM May 2012

The Depressing Rise of People Robbing Banks to Pay the Bills

Despite inflation decreasing their value, bank robberies are on the rise in the United States. According to the FBI, in the third quarter of 2010, banks reported 1,325 bank robberies, burglaries, or other larcenies, an increase of more than 200 crimes from the same quarter in 2009. America isn't the easiest place to succeed financially these days, a predicament that's finding more and more people doing desperate things to obtain money. Robbing banks is nothing new, of course; it's been a popular crime for anyone looking to get quick cash practically since America began. But the face and nature of robbers is changing. These days, the once glamorous sheen of bank robberies is wearing away, exposing a far sadder and ugly reality: Today's bank robbers are just trying to keep their heads above water.

Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson—time was that bank robbers had cool names and widespread celebrity. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Jesse James, and John Dillinger were even the subjects of big, fawning Hollywood films glorifying their thievery. But times have changed.

In Mississippi this week, a man walked into a bank and handed a teller a note demanding money, according to broadcast news reporter Brittany Weiss. The man got away with a paltry $1,600 before proceeding to run errands around town to pay his bills and write checks to people to whom he owed money. He was hanging out with his mom when police finally found him. Three weeks before the Mississippi fiasco, a woman named Gwendolyn Cunningham robbed a bank in Fresno and fled in her car. Minutes later, police spotted Cunningham's car in front of downtown Fresno's Pacific Gas and Electric Building. Inside, she was trying to pay her gas bill.

The list goes on: In October 2011, a Phoenix-area man stole $2,300 to pay bills and make his alimony payments. In early 2010, an elderly man on Social Security started robbing banks in an effort to avoid foreclosure on the house he and his wife had lived in for two decades. In January 2011, a 46-year-old Ohio woman robbed a bank to pay past-due bills. And in February of this year, a Pennsylvania woman with no teeth confessed to robbing a bank to pay for dentures. "I'm very sorry for what I did and I know God is going to punish me for it," she said at her arraignment. Yet perhaps none of this compares to the man who, in June 2011, robbed a bank of $1 just so he could be taken to prison and get medical care he couldn't afford.

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The Depressing Rise of People Robbing Banks to Pay the Bills (Original Post) n2doc May 2012 OP
A lack of good-paying jobs is reducing America to this level of depravity. Selatius May 2012 #1
The answer is simple: They bought more life than they could afford. KansDem May 2012 #2
bull. HiPointDem May 2012 #3
Let me explain... KansDem May 2012 #6
my mistake, then. maybe i am sarcasm-challenged. HiPointDem May 2012 #8
Let me get this straight- are you saying that since they have no money they should just die? n2doc May 2012 #4
:sarcasm: KansDem May 2012 #5
ok n2doc May 2012 #7
So you suggest people who are hungry rob a bank? Really? n-t Logical May 2012 #12
Well, they could always just lay down and die. Zalatix May 2012 #24
the people with those signs look like bankers dressed up as ordinary folks. Voice for Peace May 2012 #10
That photo is from a Tea Party protest in 2010 KansDem May 2012 #11
Are these signs serious? Are there Americans REALLY this shamelessly stupid? HughBeaumont May 2012 #18
it's not a bad option, you get caught and end up with a secure place to live and 3 square meals Voice for Peace May 2012 #9
Hmm. Most people who know something about it say prison (even minimum security coalition_unwilling May 2012 #20
Death by starvation is worse. Zalatix May 2012 #25
no but there are worse ways to live Voice for Peace May 2012 #27
We all have bills to pay tomkat364 May 2012 #13
It was an elderly man who couldn't afford medical care. He robbed it purposefully riderinthestorm May 2012 #15
Yeah, I remember that story when it came out and how quickly it got buried, almost coalition_unwilling May 2012 #16
What was the outcome??? tomkat364 May 2012 #21
LOL! You can't just walk into any of the jobs you listed and get them riderinthestorm May 2012 #23
The U3 unemployment rate in Californias as of April 2012 topped out at a little less than 11%. Means coalition_unwilling May 2012 #17
They're not robbing banks; they're just repossessing their money meow2u3 May 2012 #14
How did the banks steal from them? tomkat364 May 2012 #22
You're seriously missing the plot here. Zalatix May 2012 #26
Robbing banks to pay back banks? Major Nikon May 2012 #19

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
1. A lack of good-paying jobs is reducing America to this level of depravity.
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:44 PM
May 2012

We're a whipped nation. The people who own America have a slaver's mentality when it comes to their own workers.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. The answer is simple: They bought more life than they could afford.
Fri May 25, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012

Now they'll just have to work harder to pay off their debts. Unless they're bankers or Wall Street CEOs...


...there you have it!

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
6. Let me explain...
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:12 PM
May 2012

I was being sarcastic!

I was using the ridiculous argument about "buying too much house" used by Repubs to place the onus of the TARP scandal on the victims rather than holding the bankers accountable.

"Bought too much life" would be taking that "argument" to an insane level.

Sorry to have misled...

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Let me get this straight- are you saying that since they have no money they should just die?
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:06 PM
May 2012

If you believe that, then you are on the wrong website.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
11. That photo is from a Tea Party protest in 2010
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:13 PM
May 2012
Tea Party Protest Against Barack Obama Draws Only Five People

By Jennifer Glickel and Heather Grossmann

DNAinfo Staff

EAST VILLAGE — The Tea Party protest outside of President Barack Obama's speech in New York City was more like tea for two on Thursday, with only a handful of members present at the event.

The protesters, who were part of a local arm of the movement called Tea Party 365, carried signs and spoke to passersby about their distaste for the Wall Street reform package Obama is promoting.

“I’m here as a New Yorker because Obama is bad for New York," said tea partier Ayton Eller, a Brooklyn accountant. "I’m here to protest the legislation Obama wants to pass, because Wall Street is Main Street. If the banks are regulated, it will have a ripple effect on the country and the world."

Kevin Donahue, an Upper East Side resident, said he is a Democrat but he is also a member of Tea Party 365 because he believes government is getting too big.

"The more government grows, the less freedom we have because we're the ones paying for it," Donahue said. "This is a capitalist country and we want it to stay that way."

Obama's speech had five main points: Protecting taxpayers when large financial firms fail; limiting the amount of risks taken on by banks; setting new transparency rules for derivatives and other complex financial instruments; stronger consumer protections; and giving investors more of a say in who runs firms and limiting executive pay.

"Join us, instead of fighting us in this effort," Obama urged at his speech at Cooper Union, only blocks from Wall Street.


http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20100422/east-village/tea-party-protest-against-barack-obama-draws-only-five-people

Five people??!!!

I kind of feel sorry for the woman claiming the demise of ma and pa businesses, like her pharmacy, were the result of Freddie and Fannie...Really??!!! What about companies like WalMart? One would think she would know about how WalMart and other mega-stores led to the disappearance of "ma and pa businesses" with the blessing of Wall Street. Pathetic...

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
18. Are these signs serious? Are there Americans REALLY this shamelessly stupid?
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
May 2012

Did Main Street need Wall Street in 1929-35?? 1988-1991? 2001? 2008?

Why not just change your signs to "Residents NEED Burglars!"??

That's got to be the dumbest fucking bunch I've ever seen in my life . . . almost as bad as the person at Glen Beck's FootShooter Extravaganza who held up a sign saying "Can't Strengthen the Weak by Weakening the Strong!" Errrrrr, how did that whole "Strengthening the Strong" work out, chumpstain?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
20. Hmm. Most people who know something about it say prison (even minimum security
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:08 PM
May 2012

facilities) is not a pleasant way to live.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
25. Death by starvation is worse.
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:14 AM
May 2012

And antibiotics-resistant tuberculosis among the homeless makes prison look like Club Med.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
27. no but there are worse ways to live
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:03 AM
May 2012

sick and homeless, starving. A lot of people just adapt, then it
becomes their home, more familiar & easier than the outside.

 

tomkat364

(7 posts)
13. We all have bills to pay
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:15 PM
May 2012

Try working at the bank. I'm lucky enough to have a job, so I pay my bills with what I have earned. I know there are some good people out of work through no fault of their own, but I also see lots of help wanted signs and job postings in the newspapers. That guy who robbed the bank for a dollar should go to jail, and there he should be given a "job" to pay for his room and board.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. It was an elderly man who couldn't afford medical care. He robbed it purposefully
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:33 PM
May 2012

so he could go to jail and get treatment.

I presume he'd love to have had a job. Unfortunately getting hired after 50 years old is pretty damn tough once you've been outsourced, laid off or let go. Furthermore, I'll bet you big money that elderly gent bank robber will make a model worker in jail.

Damn shame that's what some are reduced to in order to survive. Welcome to the new America....

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
16. Yeah, I remember that story when it came out and how quickly it got buried, almost
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:49 PM
May 2012

as if TPTB decided they didn't want more people knowing about it lest it breed it copy-cats.

IIRC, the gentleman had prodigiously reseearched ahead of time exactly what level of crime would result in what term of sentence and he did just enough crime to secure a sentence that would last until he could start collecting Social Security and Medicare at 65. No violence, no muss and no fuss. It was fiendishly brilliant in its conception, I thought, so was not surprised when the media deep-sixed the story after one day. The judge in his case was compelled to sentence him to the mandatory minimum, despite the fact that the perpetrator had absolutely no prior criminal record. It was like jiu-jitsu on the demagoguery of what calls itself the criminal justice system in this country.

 

tomkat364

(7 posts)
21. What was the outcome???
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:10 PM
May 2012

They have never updated us on what "vital" medical care this man needed. There are lots of jobs that 59 year olds get all the time (school bus driver, truck driver, retail). And thanks to EMTALA regulations, he would be able to walk into any emergency room in the country and get a medical evaluation without being able to pay for it. Like it or not, he took the easy way out in getting the public to foot his bill.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
23. LOL! You can't just walk into any of the jobs you listed and get them
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:26 AM
May 2012

You are fucking nuts if you believe that.

Also you cannot simply walk into an ER and get chemo (or dental treatment etc. etc.) You ARE billed (and billed, and billed and billed....)

Even if he "took the easy way out in getting the public to foot his bill", going to the ER under a false name still means we ALL pay for it through our regular insurance. The reason OUR rates are so sky-high is because of guys like this who simply have no options.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
17. The U3 unemployment rate in Californias as of April 2012 topped out at a little less than 11%. Means
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:56 PM
May 2012

the broader U6 unemployment rate here is well north of 15%. This economy has re-set at a far lower level of activity which explains why the percentage of long-term unemployed (unemployed longer than 26 weeks) is at historic highs. Resorting to Reagan-esque anecdotes about "lots of help wanted signs and job postings" offers small comfort to victims of the apotheosis of that self-same Reagan-Bushism.

 

tomkat364

(7 posts)
22. How did the banks steal from them?
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:13 PM
May 2012

I don't understand how a bank has anything to do with someone's gas bill. Assuming any of these people had jobs, the government took taxes off of there checks. Was the government stealing from them as well? The only way a bank would have "stolen" from these people is if they had investments in a bank which went under (since they were stealing from the bank it must still have been open) or took an ill-advised loan and didn't read the fine print.

But really, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEFT IS JUSTIFIED??? Perhaps you'd be okay if they stole money from YOU personally to pay their bills?

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