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CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:02 PM May 2012

Just for you today on the Friday Afternoon Challenge: My ‘Curious’ Discoveries!

Occasionally, in my eclectic art wanderings, I come across some interesting oddities, and I save them. Let’s see if you can identify any of this motley group!

And, as always, here we do observe the no cheating rule...

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Just for you today on the Friday Afternoon Challenge: My ‘Curious’ Discoveries! (Original Post) CTyankee May 2012 OP
#2 looks like Goya! CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #1
No, but Goya definitely had his black period when his stuff got a little weird... CTyankee May 2012 #4
#2 is cthulu2016 May 2012 #2
do you know this work? CTyankee May 2012 #5
Not a clue. cthulu2016 May 2012 #9
You are close with the era. I find the artist pretty fascinating. John Updike wrote an interesting CTyankee May 2012 #10
#6: Paolo Uccello, Saint George and the Dragon pinboy3niner May 2012 #3
I laugh every time I see it. I knew it would be easy but I just had to include it... CTyankee May 2012 #6
See the Uccello with the great Fanthorpe poem... ananda May 2012 #24
This poem is how I knew about this painting! I read it in a grad school course called CTyankee May 2012 #25
#4: Masaccio, Holy Trinity pinboy3niner May 2012 #7
Oh, yes, this is an outstanding example of "cadaver tomb" art, kind of perfectd by the CTyankee May 2012 #8
number 3 is peculiar in that IcyPeas May 2012 #11
Yes, you got it! It IS Pontermo! CTyankee May 2012 #13
The picture you posted IcyPeas May 2012 #17
The color is important in Mannerism. Do you see the relationship of this painting with #1? CTyankee May 2012 #18
BIG HINT: #1 was reviled by Mary McCarthy in her book "The Stones of Florence" CTyankee May 2012 #12
great clue! horseshoecrab May 2012 #22
would you believe that this thing is in the Uffizi? CTyankee May 2012 #29
I saw that when I looked up the book, lol! pinboy3niner May 2012 #30
Just bookmarking blaze May 2012 #14
Great. I think lots of folks are away for the Memorial Day holiday... CTyankee May 2012 #15
#1 - Look! This is the Youtube app. MineralMan May 2012 #16
It's a pretty scary kitty video then...it freaks me out... CTyankee May 2012 #19
No...look at the two putti at the bottom of the painting. MineralMan May 2012 #20
Ah. Now THAT is the conundrum. Here we have a freak show at the top of the canvas and CTyankee May 2012 #21
I got nothing. ellisonz May 2012 #23
I thought everyone would love the Goth look of the Child in #1! CTyankee May 2012 #28
So how do we stand--3, 4, 6 solved and 1, 2, 5 remain? pinboy3niner May 2012 #26
Answers are here http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002730414 CTyankee May 2012 #27
#2 looks like one of the paintings in the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland. Johnny Rico May 2012 #31
well, since artists copy earlier artists, this does not surprise me. Evidently, the Disney artists CTyankee May 2012 #32
Cinderella's Castle in the Magic Kingdom was based on a number of castles. Johnny Rico May 2012 #33
That's interesting. My information came from a lecturer, a Brit living in Paris, who CTyankee May 2012 #34

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
10. You are close with the era. I find the artist pretty fascinating. John Updike wrote an interesting
Fri May 25, 2012, 06:11 PM
May 2012

essay on one of his works on a Shakespeare comedy. A fun read...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. #6: Paolo Uccello, Saint George and the Dragon
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:12 PM
May 2012

I'd never seen it before, but it was a pretty easy search.

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
6. I laugh every time I see it. I knew it would be easy but I just had to include it...
Fri May 25, 2012, 05:16 PM
May 2012

Uccello was a serious artist so I can't understand how he did this thing. Bizarre...

ananda

(28,858 posts)
24. See the Uccello with the great Fanthorpe poem...
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:04 AM
May 2012

... here.

http://cunycomposers.wetpaint.com/page/%22Not+My+Best+Side%22%3A+Paolo+Uccello+and+U.A.+Fanthorpe

Each stanza is from a different pov: stanza 1 is the dragon speaking, 2 is the princess, and 3 is St. George. It's wickedly funny.

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
25. This poem is how I knew about this painting! I read it in a grad school course called
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:59 AM
May 2012

"Drafting the Self" which was essentially a course in creativity. The image accompanied the poem, of course...

The poem along with the painting is a hoot. Everyone in the seminar loved both and we had a great discussion around it...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. #4: Masaccio, Holy Trinity
Fri May 25, 2012, 06:00 PM
May 2012

Again, found by searching, which led to this analysis of the fresco:

Masaccio’s Holy Trinity is a truly brilliant example of the power of perspective and illusion. A ledge seems to protrude out at the viewer away from the plane of the painting; on this ledge the donor and his wife are portrayed. Beneath them resides a skeleton, whose tomb bears the inscription “I was once what you are, and what I am you will become.”

The ledge is surrounded by graceful columns framing a room that seems to disappear beyond the plane of the painting into the wall. In this room farther away from the donors, Mary and John appear even farther removed from the viewer. God is portrayed as an old man supporting his Son, who is on the cross. The Holy Spirit appears as a small dove between them (the bridge between the Father in heaven and the Son on earth who came to die for our sins).

Because of Masaccio’s mastery of perspective, the Trinity appears remote and far off, while the viewer remains closest to the skeleton. This is a reminder that the viewer is mortal and removed from God. Masaccio plays with the perspective of the painting to create a scene in which the viewer shares space with some of the figures (the human figures and the remains of a human) and is unable to reach the other divine figures, as they exist in a room beyond the plane of the painting. Masaccio uses perspective to create a feeling of mortality and distance from God.

http://evergreen.loyola.edu/brnygren/www/Honors/masaccio.htm



CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
8. Oh, yes, this is an outstanding example of "cadaver tomb" art, kind of perfectd by the
Fri May 25, 2012, 06:09 PM
May 2012

English artists. It is a memento mori, remember death.

This painting is a milestone in linear perspective revival in early renaissance art. Masaccio actually laid this out on a grid to make sure the proportions were accurate.

However, the presence of the skeleton is a bit of a shock when you see it.

It is in the Santa Maria Novella church in Florence, where I saw it in Sept. 2010. Quite a work, indeed!

IcyPeas

(21,859 posts)
11. number 3 is peculiar in that
Fri May 25, 2012, 07:38 PM
May 2012

it looks like this... but doesn't look like this (Jacopo Pontormo, mannerism madonna and child with st. john the baptist)


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CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
13. Yes, you got it! It IS Pontermo!
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:07 PM
May 2012

Mannerism is so strange, I think.

Tell me what led you to this...

IcyPeas

(21,859 posts)
17. The picture you posted
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:56 PM
May 2012

I recognized as Mannerist. So I searched for Mannerist Madonna and child and this one came up. But yours and mine look very different!! Look closely. Is it just the color?

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
12. BIG HINT: #1 was reviled by Mary McCarthy in her book "The Stones of Florence"
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:05 PM
May 2012

She wrote that this painting had a "simpering, rouged, idiot Child."

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
22. great clue!
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:05 AM
May 2012

#1 is "Madonna and Child with Saints" by the mannerist, Il Rosso, aka Rosso Fiorentino. His real name was Giovanni Battista di Jacopo.


horseshoecrab

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
30. I saw that when I looked up the book, lol!
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:43 PM
May 2012

And, looking at the Uffizi's website and images of its works, this one is a real non sequitur.

"You can't explain that!"--Bill O'Reilly

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
21. Ah. Now THAT is the conundrum. Here we have a freak show at the top of the canvas and
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

these adorable putti at the bottom.

This is one of the things that makes me scratch my head about this painting. I researched him and found out that the guy was probably nutty as a fruitcake.

the top and the bottom of this work does not seem compatible to me...

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
28. I thought everyone would love the Goth look of the Child in #1!
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:12 AM
May 2012

Of course, the artist lived with a baboon and kept cadavers in tubs of water...

there were more than a few screw looses with this guy...

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
27. Answers are here http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002730414
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:09 AM
May 2012

Hope everyone had a good time! I enjoyed sharing my own little freak collection with you guys. As usual, you are superb at art...

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
31. #2 looks like one of the paintings in the Haunted Mansion in Disneyland.
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:59 PM
May 2012

You know, the ones that change when the light from a (fake) lightning bolt hits them?

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
32. well, since artists copy earlier artists, this does not surprise me. Evidently, the Disney artists
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:05 PM
May 2012

copied the main concepts of the Louvre for their Magic Kingdom castle (the Louvre had originally been a castle).

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
33. Cinderella's Castle in the Magic Kingdom was based on a number of castles.
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:28 PM
May 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_Castle

Cinderella Castle was inspired by a variety of real and fictional castles. These included Fontainebleau, Versailles and the chateaus of Chenonceau, Chambord and Chaumont, as well as Castle Neuschwanstein, Bavaria, and Alcázar of Segovia, Castile and León (Spain), the oldest of all, which is 9 centuries old and also the Moszna Castle in Poland which was built in 18th century. The chief designer of the Castle, Herbert Ryman, also referenced the original design for the castle in the film Cinderella and his own well-known creation — the Sleeping Beauty Castle at Disneyland in California.



I like Cinderella's Castle rather more than Sleeping Beauty's Castle in Disneyworld:



Trivia: There's actually a luxury suite where one can spend the night in Cinderella's Castle! It was originally planned for the Disney family and executives but since Walt Disney died nearly five years before the park opened, it remained unfinished, and eventually was turned successively into a telephone call center, a dressing room, and is currently a lavish Dream Suite hotel room for specially selected guests.



Here's an article about it:

http://www.disneytouristblog.com/cinderella-castle-suite-tour-photos/

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
34. That's interesting. My information came from a lecturer, a Brit living in Paris, who
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:31 PM
May 2012

conducted a tour of the Louvre, starting in what had been the moat. There was a model of the original that was in place there. It was fascinating.

Here is the model we saw during the lecture http://www.google.com/imgres?q=model+of+the+louvre&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=632&tbm=isch&tbnid=uRGVPl9z9-iFtM:&imgrefurl=http://www.ourtravelpics.com/%3Fplace%3Dparis_2%26photo%3D388&docid=-VoamavJMiJ7KM&imgurl=&w=1024&h=768&ei=JiHBT7HuEMbm6gHI9tyjBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=265&vpy=296&dur=8826&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=103&ty=192&sig=108813109928341483086&page=1&tbnh=130&tbnw=138&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:86

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