Since Corporations allegedly pull the strings of both Parties, aren't they behind this

[Cal33]

latest Benghazi Investigation fiasco, too? (the 9th -- 7 by the Republican House, and 2
by other institutions)? And, if so, why? I can't make heads or tails of it. Is anybody
else also wondering?

[stillwaiting]

1. Well, it certainly wastes a lot of time doesn't it.

It continues to reinforce the narrative that government doesn't do anything for average people. That is a VERY important takeaway that corporations need to have constantly reinforced. The people NEED to continue to expect that it's impossible for the government to do things that actually help them (and a lot of people certainly do believe that). These shenanigans get people to tune out. That gives the financial elite a lot of cover to do what they want to do.

Not to mention, it's just political theater at its grandest. Hillary Clinton is always going to do very, very well advocating on her own behalf. She is powerful and fierce when protecting her interests. It's a spectacle that will reinforce her "presidential" style. The corporate media will push that narrative for all it's worth.

I see a number of advantages here.

[Cal33]

3. Sorry I missed seeing your post. You mean you think all the Benghazi Investigations (there are

9 of them so far) are nothing more than "political theater" made up by the Corporations for the
purpose of helping Clinton to win the presidency, because the Corporations want her to win?

If so, their ploy certainly seems to be working out very well. Many Dems. fell for it, and the
numbers of Hillary fans have grown. It would help Hillary to stay cool and calm during the
apparently "rough grilling," too. Well, I certainly wouldn't put it past them. Republicans are
too well known for their dirty tricks.

And the Corporate media, their lackeys, have always remained their faithful dogs. They are
playing it up. At the same time, they mention little or nothing of whatever Bernie Sanders says
or does. They are doing their best to keep his name unknown to the public as long as they can,
and they have been partially successful in this area also. But Bernie is a tenacious fighter. He
still has the time, and he is making good use of it with his fighting back.

[stillwaiting]

4. I believe A LOT of what we see in D.C. is carefully managed/scripted theater.

Big corporations literally write our bills.

Hillary was always going to do quite well in standing up to the line of questioning that was presented. So much of it was ridiculous. Hillary will always present herself as cool, calm, and collected. Poised. And, this gives the corporate media the opportunity to fawn over how "presidential" Hillary appears to be. A golden opportunity to attempt to get others to put style over substance. The whole Benghazi spectacle has been ridiculous. Just about every Democrat knows this. Since Hillary continues to be harassed over something so ridiculous it could make her a sympathetic person to some. This very series of events could end up manipulating some people to support Hillary.

Don't we always rally when the Republicans are unfairly attacking the Clintons? Don't the corporate powers-that-be know this? Manufacturing consent and manipulating the public is an art form. Wealthy interests know exactly what they are doing. I hope they fail this time.

[Cal33]

6. Bernie Sanders appears to be the type who is his own man. I suppose the corporate powers

wouldn't want him to be president. What if he manages to win in spite of them?

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. See these threads

To begin your adventure into what is going on.

ONE simple fact: Benghazi was a covert CIA op under direction of Gen. Petraeus


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7277145






Behind the Deep State

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016135001

[Cal33]

5. Your link (repeated below) is highly interesting. I think everyone should read it. I've

skimmed through the long article to get the general idea, but I will go through it more
thoroughly some other time.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/this_is_not_a_democracy_behind_the_deep_state_that_obama_hillary_or_trump_couldnt_control/

"Deep State" is the name given by the article to the people who hold the real power in this
country. The article alleges that Kennedy was the last president who did not heed them.
He fired CIA Director Dulles, who got back at Kennedy later. And no president has been
able to do all what he really wanted to accomplish ever since.

Substantiating evidences of the above appear to be rather convincing. What's surprising
is that anyone would want to be president under these circumstances. Or, if he didn't
really know until after he became president, he'd quit soon after, and certainly he
wouldn't run for a second term -- unless he isn't even allowed to quit without having the
approval of Deep State first? Of course the ability to make substantial amounts of money
in the post-presidential years might be attractive to those who are so inclined.

[Rex]

7. So you think Wal Mart was behind Bill Clinton's impeachment hearings?

Maybe the repukes have some control over what they do without being influenced 100% by corporations. It is feasible.

[Cal33]

8. `I don't really know. I remember having read that the Mellon banking family of PA

hired private detectives to go to Arkansas to dig up something -- anything -- they could
find that would be at least embarrassing to Bill Clinton, since they couldn't find anything
to impeach him with. It took a few years. Then the detectives found that Bill had had
extra-marital affairs, which was not an impeachable offense. But the Repubs. managed
to make something out of it after all -- as it turned out later, through illegal trickery.

A lot of Repubs. did work together to have Bill Clinton impeached. It wouldn't surprise me
if some of those taking part in this pursuit were from various corporations.

[Rex]

9. I've always wondered about that too.

Wondered which corporations benefited from a weakened WH and a public witch hunt. Benghazi cannot be that much different. I know the GOP can operate on their own at times, but we hardly ever see them do anything unless there are ulterior motives involved.

[Cal33]

13. Since the Neo-cons. came into power, the three main items on tbeir agenda seem to be: 1. money.

2. power. 3. and destruction of their opposition power as well as its president. Everything else
is secondary to them.

[moondust]

10. Here's one:

The oligarchs pulling the strings may have calculated that all the Republican candidates are too cuckoo to win a general election so they've decided their best bet is to discreetly help Hillary overcome the challenge from the SOCIALIST!!! to win the nomination and the general election. Since they basically control the Republicans they can tell them to keep at the Benghazi stuff even if it seems to help her, and make sure the corporate media stick to the playbook.

[Cal33]

11. Sonds like a good reason for them. Also, Hillary will probably not make too many problems

for Wall Street. Bernie would.

[Le Taz Hot]

12. It all is quite neat if you think about it.

They've purchased both political parties (except Sanders) so the more batshit crazy the Republicans look, the more sane Hillary looks. Either way, they get the person they wanted in the White House and We the People lose again.

[Cal33]

14. This is so early in the game. Don't let your hopes fade. Remember, Bernie is a fighter -- and

a very smart and dedicated one. He isn't giving up.

[Le Taz Hot]

15. I'm a die-hard. I never lose hope

and I NEVER give up. Especially with our entire Democracy at stake.

[Cal33]

16. Good for you. That's great! I don't either.