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kimbutgar

(21,177 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 09:14 PM Oct 2015

Get a copy of your birth certificate

We really need people to vote but to get an ID in some states you need proof of citizenship.

We should all remind people we know and meet who aren't registered to make the effort to get a copy. It is a good excuse to see your parents and look for or get information about yourself to get a copy where you were born. It is vitally important we establish our birthrights now. The stakes are too high in 2016 to not vote.

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REP

(21,691 posts)
1. I have several copies plus the hospital certificate
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

My parents are dead, though, and didn't live at the Bureau of Vital Statistics. I could get another copy by mail anyway.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
5. Really good advice. Even if you don't think you need one right now,
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
Oct 2015

it would be a good idea to have a copy "just in case."

Igel

(35,337 posts)
6. Never a bad idea to have a BC around.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:26 PM
Oct 2015

There was a Rice study done and published in Aug. 2015 that concluded that the rhetoric around the TX did more harm than the law itself.

Now, that's my take on it.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/08/10/3689809/texas-lawmakers-are-much-better-at-disenfranchising-voters-than-we-thought/ said that the law did harm by discouraging voters, but I'd hasten to point out that most of the voters involved didn't actually read the law. What they read and heard was "you can't vote." And so more stayed home convinced they lacked ID than actually did lack ID. What discouraged them was what was said about the law--and that's not likely to be from RW sources.

The Houston Chronicle was vaguely along the same lines, but after saying how it was the lawmakers who set up obstacles--after saying that most of those who didn't vote because they didn't think they had the right ID did have them (so, in other words, no obstacle there except their perceptions). Well, actually the Chronicle didn't say that, but an employee of a politician opposed to the law said this.
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/08/06/study-law-discouraged-more-those-without-voter-id.

They had to conclude this. After basically scaring people and saying how so many lacked proper ID, a lot of people got the idea that they probably lacked it. The rhetoric around the law deterred more than the law itself, coupled with the populace's confusion, doubt, and misunderstanding. You use scare tactics on people, they get scared.

Word-of-mouth and social media are not the best sources of unbiased information.

The actual study is at https://bakerinstitute.org/media/files/files/e0029eb8/Politics-VoterID-Jones-080615.pdf.
"This study suggests that the most significant impact of the Texas voter photo ID law on
voter participation in CD-23 in November 2014 was to discourage turnout among
registered voters who did indeed possess an approved form of photo ID, but through
some combination of misunderstanding, doubt or lack of knowledge, believed that they
did not possess the necessary photo identification." (p. 1)

It's worth pointing out that the people who in the study claimed they lacked appropriate ID didn't say whether they had the documentation necessary for getting the ID, and the researchers, IIRC, didn't actually verify the claims. But when you get down < 1.0% of the voters and towards 0.5% that kind of non-confirmation might matter a lot.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
7. Do bear in mind those cost...or used to, at least.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:29 PM
Oct 2015

I know it cost when I had to get my documents replaced from a theft almost 10 years ago or...oh, wow...15 years. Time flies and all that. Anyways, yeah, it cost me a little bit to get them. A few dollars, but still to someone who doesn't know they're going to need it a few dollars is no different than a few hundred -- out of reach.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
8. I have long advocated for the perfect graduation gift
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

a PASSPORT..

Also a great idea for older folks who no longer drive, but still may plan to vote.

So much better than a clunky watch or some electrontic gadget

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
9. I just ordered one the other day
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:50 AM
Oct 2015

Wanted to be sure all my voting papers were in order so I can vote in the caucus next year, and then the general.
If anyone is ordering from PA beware: they will try and add on another $18 for expedited shipping. You have to OPT OUT of that if you don't want it. And if you were born before 1967 you are considered Older Than Dirt and have to wait much longer for them to get it to you.

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