DU'ers defending this! WTF is wrong with you people?

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[notadmblnd]

1. What he said ^

[LuvNewcastle]

2. Ahh, school days.

I guess he has the hickory stick?

[erlewyne]

51. Payback is hell

I'll bet if the police officer had it to do over
this would not have happened. I cannot
understand physical abuse.

He will have to live with this the rest of his life.

[Bettie]

84. People always say this

and yet, every cop who does something like this comes up with justification as to why it "had" to happen. Why he had no choice, it was all his victim's fault, after all.

"Live with it the rest of his life"? Yeah, that would indicate a conscience. People who do this kind of thing don't seem to have that.

[PatSeg]

87. Any abused spouse or child

will tell you the same thing - the abuser will try and justify what he's done and blame the victim. "Why do you make me hit you?" mentality.

[Bettie]

92. Yes indeed

when I was a child, I heard all the time "if you didn't do X, I wouldn't need to hit you, you deserve this".

Oh and, "well, you are the only girl around now that your mother left and it is up to you to fill her place since she left because you are such a brat". (Yeah, that means what it sounds like.)

[PatSeg]

96. It is like

they are reading from the same script. It is difficult to forgive violent behavior, if the abuser continues to blame the victim.

[awoke_in_2003]

103. Live with it?

Even if the prick gets fired, he will be working for another PD somewhere. The pig should be in jail.

[Madmiddle]

58. I'm guessing you don't know the difference.

[yuiyoshida]

3. Disgusting...

This is the kind of world Donald Trump wants!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027291206

[Hotler]

4. Fucking cops. n/t

[Beausoir]

56. THAT fucking cop. n/t

[randys1]

113. It is true not all cops or whatever this guy was are this aggressive or violent, but almost

all cops will almost ALWAYS cover for those who are.

[denbot]

5. WTF Indeed.

If this happened to their own kid I'd imagine the song would change.

[Vinca]

6. Another young person who will have college paid for.

Please tell me this guy has been arrested.

[Glimmer of Hope]

7. It makes me sad that anyone could defend this. She is just a child!

[Lee-Lee]

8. I'm the only one on here who had been a cop and made lots of folks mad defending cops

And you know what? There is no defending this. Scumbag shouldn't have a badge and Damm sure never shouldn't have ever been made an SRO.

Some departments see the SRO job as a place to dump the problem officers nobody wants to work with instead of doing the right thing and getting rid of them. I ponder if that is the case here.

There could have come a point in the interaction where the use of force was justified in order to get the girl into compliance. Based on all I saw this wasn't the case at this point by a long shot, there should have been a lot more verbal commands, followed by use of "soft hands" to move the student. Jumping straight to that level of violence is in no way justified.

Fire him, prosecute him. SC seems to have been doing well prosecuting bad cops, let's hope they keep up the trend here.

[Mariana]

32. Oh, great, put problem cops in schools, what a dandy idea.

My high school had a "resource officer" back in the 1980's. We plagued that man on purpose, teased him. baited him, pranked him. He remained level and calm, as he should have done. There were real crimes taking place at my school, and he was there to deal with those. It was not his job to enforce routine discipline or breaking of minor school rules.

[Lee-Lee]

77. Much of the blame for that goes to teachers and administrators

They more and more often in many schools see the SRO as the default go-to disciplinarian. They intentionally hand off issues and cases to the SRO that have no business being handled in any way by the cops- but they do it because of a combination of laziness, unwillingness to deal with problems, and a fear of actually disciplining kids.

Hell, we saw that with the issue in Texas with the kid with the clock. The teachers and admin knew it wasn't a bomb. They had no worries it was a danger- so why the hell did they call the cops? Because they were lazy and didn't want to actually handle the issue themselves like adults but wanted somone else to do the hard part for them and make the hard decisions.

It's sad- instead of using the SRO's to handle issues that are legitimate law enforcement issues and to provide security school administrators and teachers are dumping every tiny discipline problem to the cops because they don't want to do their job like responsible adults. By shoving it to the cops they can avoid the responsibility for having to discipline the students.

It's actually what led to me leaving law enforcement- we had a new Sheriff elected and he reorganized everything and told me I could either be a SRO in a school where they did just that or I didn't have a job. I left and took a voluntary Army Reserve tour in Afghanistan and had another department holding my certifcation as a part timer. Well the chief of the small department died suddenly, and the new one got rid of all part time officers and that made me go over a year without being employed and all my credentials went dead- so I would have had to start all over from the beginning.

[Xyzse]

85. Thanks, that is good to know.

I actually needed that piece of information.

[Mariana]

94. I'm not letting school personnel off the hook, not at all.

They absolutely are in the wrong when they call in police for this kind of thing. The officers assigned to schools should be able (and willing) to refuse to handle stuff like this, and their departments should back them up. With the exception of some child-haters who get a charge out of seeing "bratty" kids being beat up, I don't think many people really want the police being called in to use force to deal with minor discipline issues.

[GOLGO 13]

39. No brother your not the only one here.

Most just know & deal accordingly.

[mercuryblues]

65. where

in your scenario is calling the kid's parent? When have schools stopped doing that? In all these cases I have not heard where the parents were called, before the abuse and arrest.

[riversedge]

110. I hope that officer gets help. He obviously has no skills

in dealing with people. She was not armed and the classroom should have been cleared and the officer should have called for help. No excuses for his behavior.

[hobbit709]

9. Unfortunately there's more than one authoritarian ass here on DU.

[trumad]

10. Yep---more than I thought...

I'm like huh?

[n2doc]

19. And libertarians

Really wonder why they stay here.

[JackInGreen]

104. More in common with "us" than "them"

The ones that stay still have hearts, might be smallish, but they have em.
I know a few IRL that have come here and a couple that stayed. We tend to consider ourselves mutually so far left and right we smoke around the back.

[OneGrassRoot]

26. Yep to the noticeable number of authoritarians and libertarians. :( n/t

[Bettie]

11. There is no defending this.

None whatsoever.

[trumad]

12. The meme of the defenders is---

She should have complied.

[Bettie]

17. Of course it is

because we're all supposed to comply at all times.

Isn't that how a bunch of women got raped by cops in Texas? By complying?

I used to argue that there are good cops. I don't make that argument anymore because the 'good' cops allow the ones who would do this continue and cover for them. They encourage this kind of thing by never saying a word about it.

[randys1]

117. That is the problem, way too many cops will cover for the bad apples.

[Bettie]

122. And prosecutors

are in the cop's corner.

And people always look for reasons to blame the victim. I swear, victim blaming is a hobby for many, they search for reasons why the cop or vigilante is not at fault, but the victim practically harmed him or herself.

[Chan790]

43. Having grown up on farms...

the only things that comply mindlessly to authority are sheep. So that's how I'm interpreting defenders of this...they think we should be compliant sheep that quake at the authority of the state.

I wonder how many of them comprehend that we are the state, not the elected officials and "peacekeepers" (irony quotes because that officer surely was not keeping the peace) we empower.

[BeanMusical]

70. +1 Totally agree.

[Melurkyoulongtime]

128. +1000

nt

[malthaussen]

50. What I find interesting about that, though...

... is the apparent belief that, when there is no compliance, there is no limit to the means used to coerce it. Arguing about whether or not she should "obey orders" is an interesting screen to the deeper question of appropriateness of response.

-- Mal

[PatSeg]

89. Exactly

It seems there are no degrees in the response to noncompliance with today's law enforcement, it is just "off" and "on".

[w0nderer]

13. protect and serve

winning the hearts and minds of people everywhere

way over response unless she actually pulled a weapon of some sort

[Mariana]

15. I bet some of those same people would be appalled

if this had been done to a 40 year old woman who had refused to leave, let's say, a public library. I think some of them just hate young people and enjoy seeing them "put in their place".

[justiceischeap]

16. Or possibly even think that if all these black people would just "behave"

there wouldn't be all this police violence.

The one question I haven't seen answered about this is why the student was asked to leave the class in the first place. What had she "done" to deserve this level of violence? Of course, I don't think there's an excuse for this level of violence unless the student is brandishing a weapon and threatening others around her.

[Mariana]

20. Maybe that too. I got the sense

that they thought she deserved it because she was being a "brat" in school. I suspect they would be just fine with white kids who are "brats" being beat up, too.

[RedRocco]

101. local news said it started because she wouldn't put her phone away

[justiceischeap]

105. Thanks.

Still not a valid reason for that level of violence but at least now my curiousity is sated.

[mnhtnbb]

107. Apparently she had taken out her phone and then wouldn't give it up to the teacher.

Then an administrator was called to the room to get her to come out of class.
She refused.

It certainly doesn't seem like the school officials have a reasonable plan when a student
resists complying with teacher/administrator requests, if their next step is forcible
removal of a student by an officer.

[randys1]

120. Oh, well hell, in that case, a severe beating is surely in order. But you are gonna

have to beat 98% of all kids in America who do the exact same thing ALL the fucking time.

[justiceischeap]

18. What is telling is the students reaction behind this assualt

She just goes on working, so the excuse of disrupting the class is a moot point. What's more disruptive, sitting in a chair, refusing to leave a room or throwing a child into another child's desk as she studies?

[Mariana]

23. Exactly. The cop was FAR more disruptive

than the student ever could have been. How much learning went on after that incident? I bet not much, and not just in that classroom during that class period, but in the whole school, once word began to spread about the assault.

[randys1]

123. I was JUST thinjing this, it is as if these kids are USED to this, like the scene in M*A*S*H

when Cpt Hunnicutt shows up to replace Trapper John in Season 4, they get back to the unit and are in Rosie's bar and a fight breaks out. Hawkeye and Radar react like it isnt happening at all, the new guy, Hunnicutt is all freaked out.

[NCTraveler]

21. This is much larger than one instance.

It is domestic terrorism. I truly don't think that is hyperbole.

[geek tragedy]

22. Authoritarian badge-sniffers. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

29. Yup. Bootlicking badge sniffers.

[randome]

24. Shit. He probably could have picked her up, desk and all, and carried her out.

Cop already has a lawsuit pending against him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[deutsey]

44. I saw this morning that he apparently lifts weights

Why couldn't Officer Weightlifter, as you say, just pick the girl and the desk up and carry her out into the hallway? He was supposed to remove her from the room from what I understand. I doubt the order was to fling her to floor and drag her around like a rag doll.

[mnhtnbb]

102. He certainly could have just pulled the desk/seat--with her in it--out of the room.

[JackInGreen]

106. That was my thought

"You're such a Bobby badass there cheif, carry her out desk n all....with a smile." No instead it's a choke slam and scene from a horror movie.

[trumad]

25. I'm guessing the Defenders got a sad?

Cause I got juried.

[DocMac]

63. I put one of them on my ingore

list yesterday. It was long overdue.

[SwankyXomb]

126. Badge licking scum don't like it

when you call them out over their authoritarian bullshit.

[sinkingfeeling]

27. My GOd! What has happened to this country? Violence, violence, and more violence. That guy

shouldn't be allowed near a school or anybody under the age of 21!

[Ed Suspicious]

28. Thouroughly fucked up.

Prople defending that cop's actions long for fascism.

[get the red out]

30. Call a parent?

One would hope the school could call a parent if a student was too disruptive and refused to leave the class as requested.

[Mariana]

33. I guess they don't do that so much anymore.

My daughter developed a behavior problem in elementary school, one she never displayed at home. The teacher finally called me, but only after it had been going on for months. I was not pleased.

[get the red out]

55. I should think you were displeased!

I don't have kids, but it only seems right to keep parents informed.

[Mariana]

59. I gathered that calling me was something of a last resort.

I know lots of people like to blame the parents for any misbehavior by their children, but when it happens at school, we don't see it and can't correct it if we aren't told about it. Most kids, even very young kids, are plenty smart enough to figure out that they can get away with different behaviors with different people. Hell, my cat knows that much.

[mountain grammy]

66. Exactly! Parents must always be called. This is indefensible.

It's an assault on a young girl, in broad daylight, in front of witnesses, who are getting the message. You could be next. Sickening.

[abelenkpe]

31. So disappointing

I cannot believe anyone would defend or justify that. Especially here on DU.

[Photographer]

34. Give me a Nun with a ruler any day.

[SharonAnn]

88. But remember, they also suspended/removed a child from school if he/she was "too disruptive"

That helps solve a lot of discipline in their school. Not so much in the public schools where the child was then sent.

[bullwinkle428]

35. "Reading, 'riting, and 'rithmetic" now replaced by "racism and 'roids".

K&R.

[Volaris]

46. You need to add 'ranged weapons' on the end of the last sentence...

Because of course cops in SCHOOLS should have firearms. . .

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Well ...

should we wait for all the facts to come out? The girl could've said something really bad about the cops mother!

{Do I need to put this: , here?}

[JustAnotherGen]

78. Not for your allies you don't

[SmittynMo]

81. I agree with the facts first.

We don't know all the facts. We've seen it over and over before. People refuse to do as requested, and you see the results. If a cop tells me to get out of the chair and leave, that's exactly what I would have done. I'm guessing here, the student refused to participate.

However, there is no way I could support the officer and his actions here. Was he threatened? I didn't see that at all. Even if the student refused to listen, this should not have been the result. There are other ways to deal with uncooperative people.

[SmittynMo]

83. Facts first

You are right. We don't know all the facts. We've seen it over and over before. People refuse to do as requested, and you see the results. If a cop tells me to get out of the chair and leave, that's exactly what I would have done. I'm guessing here, the student refused to participate.

However, there is no way I could support the officer and his actions here. Was he threatened? I didn't see that at all. Even if the student refused to listen, this should not have been the result. There are other ways to deal with uncooperative people.

[1StrongBlackMan]

97. I don't need more facts ...

There is nothing, short of that student producing a weapon, that would justify what this cop did ... NOTHING!

People refuse to do as requested, and you see the results.

Yes. We have seen this over and over again ... People refuse to do as DEMANDED and we see the results ... cops forcing compliance of kids using excessive force.

If a cop tells me to get out of the chair and leave, that's exactly what I would have done.

I suspect that maybe because you life's relationship with law enforcement, and authority, is markedly difference from that of the average Black person ... compliance, means little to those bound and determined to escalate any resistance, whether real or perceived. And society, until very recently, has it that for some people, acing on other people ... it's no big deal.

[trumad]

99. What fact---other than the student having a weapon---would justify this?

Not one.

[TheKentuckian]

112. What "facts"? That she was about to unleash a bomb or something?

[dorkzilla]

37. Seriously, people are DEFENDING THIS GUY?

I saw the video of him lifting...this guy is a walking roid rage.

They really need to start testing cops for this shit.

[LWolf]

38. I saw this last night

posted to a teachers' group on FB. Not a single teacher was defending that assault on the student. Every single one was calling for the removal of that "officer" from public school grounds and from his job.

[malthaussen]

40. You notice the girl behind her gets kicked in the head?

I suppose if she had been injured, it would have been written off as "collateral damage."

What I like is the people who justify this because a whole class period might be lost if the situation were dealt with more rationally. You know, because every second of a student's life is critical to his mastering the material.

-- Mal

[alcibiades_mystery]

95. That's the argument that incenses me most: because these students DID learn something in class

Submission, violence, white supremacy, meekness in the face of abuse.

These were the lessons in class that day, taught with fist and muscle. Anyone who justifies this behavior of this SRO on educational grounds is a psychotic.

[bonniebgood]

41. If a parent had done this to their child, they would be arrested. Period. this

is pure violence being accepted and condoned by our Government. I really would like to know the family makeup of this officer? I would love to hear what sort of person he really is.

[ladyVet]

42. I've been yelling at the TV all morning over this.

It's uncalled for. Not only could he have seriously injured this student, but what about that poor kid whose desk got rammed? Jeebus.

There's no excuse for a grown man to assault a child. Even if this student was threatening others, there are ways to calm down a situation without throwing them across the room and dragging them out like a rabid dog.

I do wonder, if this had been a white student, would this have happened? I hate to think so, but probably not.

[gollygee]

45. There are some people who will ALWAYS defend police

and some who will always find African Americans "deserved it."

[bread_and_roses]

47. You don't remember? years ago, the 5yr old in handcuffs ...

Years ago, now. On this site - a story about a five year old girl handcuffed and arrested in class ... there was a photo of the child, mouth agape in the kind of full out terrified cry that only very little children do ... handcuffed and arrested for misbehaving in kindergarden .... She was - of course - a little black girl ... it might have been in Florida. madfloridian would remember it, I think.

and people here defending and justifying that.

Authoritarians come in red AND blue. Child-haters too.

[JackInGreen]

49. I'm certified in child hate

that swine still deserves a full gutting and roasting for that shit.

[blackspade]

48. Authoritarianism runs deep in a lot of DUers.

It's pathetic.

[RKP5637]

52. Cops on steroids! n/t

[cwydro]

72. I'd be willing to bet that's the case.

It's been reported that he's a powerlifter.

Big tough guy beating up a little girl.

[WDIM]

53. That is assualt and battery the police officer should be arrested and charged.

Prosecuted. If she us under 18 that is battery of a minor. Cops do not have a right to lay their hands on a person sitting in a chair. They are not above the law the only way officers are going to learn is to prosecute!

[brush]

64. And that was a male officer manhandling a teen girl

Aren't women officers supposed to be brought if hands have to be put on a female?

[WDIM]

71. 200lb man beating up a 100lb girl

Bet he felt real tough.

Our police officers need mental evaluations to determine how prone they are towards violence and aggression and if they are they should be fired.

[jtuck004]

54. "Sadly, it seems, “walking while black” can have dangerous consequences.

That’s because a recent study suggests motorists are less likely to stop for an African American pedestrian in a crosswalk. A black pedestrian’s wait time at the curb was about 32 percent longer than a white person’s. Black pedestrians were about twice as likely as white pedestrians to be passed by multiple vehicles.

The small but provocative study — conducted by researchers at Portland State University in Oregon and the University of Arizona — suggests that biases just outside people’s conscious awareness can make them less likely to yield to minority pedestrians. And that could put those pedestrians at risk, said Kimberly B. Kahn, an assistant professor of social psychology at Portland State University.

Put another way: Not only do black men have to worry about being hassled — and possibly shot — by police for simply being black, they have to worry about being run over by motorists. Kahn said a follow-up study is underway to see whether drivers also discriminate based on gender and whether crosswalk design and signage might change driver behavior.

But can it change deep-rooted stereotypes? Ralph Ellison devoted a novel to the profound invisibility of African Americans. Researchers have shown the same thing. Taxi drivers roll past black people hailing taxis. Doctors miss telltale signs of critical medical conditions. Teachers fail to see a minority child’s gifts.
...

http://field-negro.blogspot.com/2015/10/while-black.html

That officer treated her like she was some kind of less-than-human object. Too common occurrence. And now we can add sitting.

[KeepItReal]

57. Yes and those defenders of this aggression sicken me.

Police know who they can mess with.

Or rather *used* to know who they could mess with.

Social media gives the formerly powerless a way to show the world how differently people of color or the poor are policed and administered.

[d_r]

60. tip of the iceburg

I'm too angry and sad to be able to write this very eloquently, but this is just a reflection of a deeper problem. A problem we've always had in this country. A problem before Brown vs. Board of ed, a problem when the mobs were wanting to lynch the little rock 9, a problem of white flight and bussing in the 70s, a problem of the achievement gap in the 2000s.

Look at how the rest of those kids in that class are keeping their heads down trying not to look or be noticed.

Look at the administrator there to observe the situation.

They run schools like they are damn military prison camps.

Look, corporal punishment is legal in 19 states. Black kids and poor kids are more likely to receive it than other kids. In those and other states black kids and poor kids are more likely to get in school and out of school suspension.

And then we wonder why the drop out rate is higher for black kids. We wonder why there is an achievement gap for black kids and poor kids.

Its because school isn't a safe place to be for many kids. Its because it is a place run like a prison boot camp where you are assumed guilty until proven innocent which you will never be because you have no right to talk back. You are only digging your hole deeper and I advise you to stop digging. You have no rights.

We do this. Our society is what does this.

[TBF]

61. Has this asshole been fired yet?

There is absolutely no excuse for this.

[Chan790]

62. Well...

just based on the comments in the related articles...it seems that the school district wants him out of the schools but the Sheriff thinks there is nothing wrong with his conduct...so that's going to come down to a fight of whose authority is bigger: the school district to bar him from the school vs. the sheriff who seems committed to going to bat for his guy and will probably refuse to assign a different deputy to the school...and most places with SROs require the school to have one, so if the sheriff says "You've got no choice but this guy"...this could get messy.

[BeanMusical]

67. This is horrible!

How can anyone defend this? Blaming the victim and approving what this maniac did is disgusting.

[heaven05]

68. DUer's defending this?

DOES NOT SURPRISE ME IN THE LEAST. Disgusting how a child of color can be treated as such and the cop, ON HERE, can be defended as using appropriate behavior in getting compliance, from a person of color, to his demands. White kid? Never would have happened. But precedent has been set, Tamir Rice, Sandra Bland. Some DUer's love to see this type of violence against children and women OF COLOR. That's is a verifiable fact on here.

[Mr Dixon]

69. SMH

Madness but not surprising

[KingCharlemagne]

73. you would think after Mike Brown, et. al., that the fellating

Copologists would have slunk back to their caves. Alas, you would be wrong.

[freebrew]

86. Even on DU...

someone was saying the cops were right about Michael Brown.
I'm not sure what they meant by that and I was in no mood to give them the satisfaction of an audience.

We are citizens, we don't have to 'comply' to authority.
Every time something like this happens it drives this country further into
disintegration.
This needs to stop. It will stop when the people start fighting back en masse.

[historylovr]

100. +1

[JustAnotherGen]

74. Seemed like only one or two

I noticed on your thread the one or two mary mary quite contraries got sufficiently dragged by the site in general.

[randome]

91. They are a small minority. Not really "devil's advocates", either, but just contrarians as you said.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[BlueJazz]

75. I understand the police officers actions. I've volunteered time to work with troubled teens and ....

...there are times when their rude actions (cussing you out, throwing stuff at you), can certainly work on your nerves.
The thing is though: You can't act on ANY of your negative feelings. You're quite aware that these troubled people need help and YOU playing out some childish fantasy (like the cop did) is also childish and immature and certainly not the adult thing to do...plus helps no one.
I could never do what that cop pulled but I can understand that a small part of me slightly understands how someone who is unbalanced can do unspeakable things.

[The Blue Flower]

76. What's telling to me is how everyone else hunkers down as this happens

It's clear to me that this asshole has everyone in that school afraid of him. One can only imagine what would have happened to anyone who tried to stop him.

[KittyWampus]

79. just scanned the thread you referenced. TWO DU'es "justified" it. Two.

A few agreed it was out of line but expressed their concern for the rest of the students and teachers losing valuable education time.

Apparently expressing two different opinions and seeing other larger issues instead of just reacting with outrage is verboten on DU.

[trumad]

93. I counted 4---and a close 5.

[1StrongBlackMan]

98. Do you have a child? n/t

[KittyWampus]

109. What difference that does make to starting a 2nd thread calling out 2 DU'ers?

What difference does that make to pointing out some DU'ers who voiced concern about the violent officer AND students losing education time needlessly got pilloried in that other thread?

[1StrongBlackMan]

114. Nevermind. n/t

[LanternWaste]

119. Even the most sub-literate dullard recognizes the distinction between playing devil's advocate...

It's an accurate study in contrasts... as one group is overwhelmingly concerned with abuse of a student, while another group minimizes that and voices an alleged concern with time being wasted.

Even the most sub-literate dullard recognizes the distinction between merely playing devil's advocate and rationalizing the absurd. And illustrating that is hardly a bad thing... unless of course, one believes that justifying the absurd is itself, hardly a bad thing.

[trumad]

127. Uh...5 DUers..

[tenderfoot]

125. One too many...

they should be PPR'd post haste.

[Thespian2]

80. If some people defend this criminal activity,

perhaps they would like to replace the young girl and let the brute do the same to them...

[womanofthehills]

82. Classsmate who took the video said her crime was taking her phone out

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/26/spring-valley-high-school-incident/74645568/ (second video)


She could have died from injuries because she took her phone out - He is 300 lbs and she is 5'6.

Also arrested, a female student who stuck up for her.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/27/second-student-arrested-spring-valley-hs-speaks-out/74665360/

[frizzled]

90. How is that guy not in jail for assault?!

nt

[LiberalArkie]

108. We do have a lot of bullies on DU. Evidently that happens a lot that school.

Look at the girl in the picture, she did not seem surprised at all except when the "peace officer" slammed the chair into her.

[IDemo]

111. We also have defenders of over the top military spending, "free" trade and NSA spying

Some threads seem to bring them in like moths to a flame.

[IVoteDFL]

115. This is a CHILD, being abused by an adult cop

There is zero defense for this. It's sick that some apparently tried.

[BumRushDaShow]

116. Of course

DU has been infested for some time and you see the ilk arise in thread after thread.

You had people defending this too -



They are no different than the leering slave master "Tom Moore" so elegantly portrayed by Chuck Connors in Roots.

[tabasco]

118. Cheerleaders for the police state.

Sickening to see them here.

[Solly Mack]

121. K&R

There is no defense for it.

[tenderfoot]

124. They no doubt defend the Confederate Battle Flag and have a host of other repugnant positions

Authoritarians are consistent in that way.

[pintobean]

129. Locking

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