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(32,324 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:03 PM Oct 2015

Our militarty's illegal experiments: And we wonder why bird and animal species are in

Decline! ?@&!!??!


Why, when our own military can go ahead and ignore the US Civil Code, which prohibits experiments on people, then I guess the new environmental policy is "Anything Goes!"


What is happening is that in the forests of the Northwest, the Navy will be flying a type of airplane known as "Growlers" that will emit microwaves to be aimed at various pieces of equipment.

At first, the policy was to be that if people were seen in the area to be impacted, then the military would move its operations to another location, but now it looks like people will be forced out of the forest while these experiments occur. As far as birds, reptiles like snakes and frogs, and small animals, there are many assurances that all will be well.

Some websites state that fifteen minutes of exposure to this type of microwave blast would cause damage to the eyes, due to the high power that these blasts possess.



http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33387-us-navy-allegedly-broke-federal-laws-to-push-forward-electromagnetic-war-training-over-national-forests

As Truthout previously reported, if it gets its way, the Navy would utilizing the electronic attack aircraft that specialize in radar jamming - in 2,900 training exercises over wilderness, communities and cities across the Olympic Peninsula for 260 days per year, with exercises lasting up to 16 hours per day. Naval surface fleet ships will also be participating by homing in on ground-based emitters - a topic that was never discussed in the Navy's environmental assessment.

Local residents found out bits and pieces about these exercises, in a scatter shot approach. here is one article printed up locally:

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20140928/NEWS/309289934

And here are some pertinent comments:
Nettie Grant
So in short, they are setting up a microwave on steroids that will cook animals, insects, birds, vegetation, & humans in the area!
· Sep 28, 2014 11:50am

Brian Higgins · Mate at Edison Chouest Offshore, Ltd.
Sounds like dinner! smile emoticon
· Sep 29, 2014 10:52pm

Deanna Munson
in the WILDLIFE area !! absolutely UNACCEPTABLE !!
Like · Reply · 2 · Oct 6, 2014 10:25am

Barbara Walberg · Works at Staying Happy
The fact that notices were published in newspapers outside the impacted areas & not published in the areas involved where residents NEED to be informed, is a huge red flag! It's obvious that something sneaky is going on here. I believe the environmental assessment is very flawed. I feel the impact this involves, may be much more than we are being led to believe. Why does this have to be done here on the peninsula? Why can't these exercises be conducted in safer areas on remote federal lands rather than putting all involved at risk here? I am interested in knowing where the Makah, Quileute, Hoh & Quinault Tribes stand on this issue & the impact involved on "their" peninsula. Yes, I said "their" peninsula, although it's been shared for years. "They" ARE the history of this beautiful land we all love. PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD OF THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. Many I've spoken to have no idea of this at all & people need to be informed, to unite & stand up for what's right.
Like · Reply · 19 · Sep 28, 2014 12:05pm

Michelle Diamond Simpson · Owner at Sappho's Garden
I have calls and messages to the Makah and Quileute tribes. These folks do not know anything about this.
Like · Reply · 14 · Sep 28, 2014 1:02pm

Davey Schmidt · University of Washington
Agree, especially since not everyone subscribes to the PDN since they started charging money to read it online.
Like · Reply · 2 · Sep 28, 2014 2:54pm

Jacqueline Donna Hunter · Olympia, Washington
I agree are we gunny pigs to see how we react to this as the whales in the ocean their brains explode with the sounds of the loud sonar
Like · Reply · 3 · Oct 5, 2014 8:59am


Joanne Adah Kempthorne
That's NOT COOL! !!!!
Like · Reply · 4 · Sep 28, 2014 12:26pm

Debra D'Angelo · Seattle University Graduate School 1990
It doesn't make sense that an 11 million dollar project is a few trucks and jets with low frequency radiation. This is a HUGE experiment with a progressive plan of expansion... and long term outcomes are unknown. When will it end? How will we be notified of changes from radiation to sonar to repetitive sound? Will RF's be intensified? Who is identifying wildlife and monitoring? We have the power to NOT issue permits. It is easy to resolve. Not on Olympic National Forest Land. Why the NAVY? I bet subs and shoreline are involved...
Like · Reply · 12 · Sep 28, 2014 1:30pm

Deanna Munson
they get this equipment set up and the navy gets a foot in the door they will never leave,your way of life and all life forms in the area will suffer a slow sick death ,this has to be stopped before it starts are you too will be living in "sustainable development/smartgrowth" area,forced to eat corporate food and "visit nature" in some fenced off "green area"
Like · Reply · 3 · Oct 6, 2014 10:54am

Jarrod Paul Bramson · Port Townsend, Washington
Can we get a petition going? Would that even help stop this from happening?
Like · Reply · 10 · Sep 28, 2014 1:42pm

Pat Moore · Grossmont College
Yes, please get a petition going!
Like · Reply · 4 · Sep 29, 2014 11:06pm

Deanna Munson
Pat Moore if you can find a way to let the indian nations in that area know that might be very beneficial for you all out there to join forces .you have a city council ?get a mayor involved ,the First nations tribal councils,your relatives.put together a huge letter of concern and get people to print it out or write their own and mail them to every local newspaper you can find.the gov agencies are useless,been trying to save this habitat for 4 years,public exposure is the way.take lots of pictures right now because if they get away with this you need to show the public the loss of life . all ...See More
Like · Reply · 5 · Oct 6, 2014 10:41am

Theresa Valenzuela
http://www.change.org/.../us-navy-do-not-put-any-camper...
Like · Reply · Oct 31, 2014 9:44pm

Heidi Thomas
If the Navy gets a foothold on our public lands in this area... we will never get them back again; this is how it starts!

Also, how do you like the idea of hiking, camping, hunting, etc... being approached and asked to leave? Can't we even get away to nature anymore without being harassed?

Please don't let this happen!
Like · Reply · 16 · Sep 28, 2014 1:51pm

Brian Higgins · Mate at Edison Chouest Offshore, Ltd.
Agreed. I get told on a regular basis that I cant have my dog in the outdoors. All those liberals have regulated the outdoors to the point where I cant even enjoy them anymore.
Like · Reply · 3 · Sep 29, 2014 10:55pm

Deanna Munson
its happening everywhere.go knocking on doors,notify the tribes in the area ,gov agencies are useless and counterproductive,make noise,do it fast ,get letter writing campaigns going nonstop to all the editors of every local paper in a 200 mile radius.call a major newspaper,local tv stations,SCREAM !!


Debra D'Angelo · Seattle University Graduate School 1990
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/A10-018...&
Like · Reply · 2 · Sep 28, 2014 1:53pm




Michelle Diamond Simpson · Owner at Sappho's Garden
It is really great to get a petition started but if you are the person that created this could you include the emitters that they want to install permanently. Also, if you read the Forest Service SOPA they are starting this next month, not 2015. An error was made in either the dates in the Forest Service paperwork, or by the Navy spokesperson. I am trying to verify the timing.



Carol Turner · Bennington College
What about small animals and birds? Expendable?????
Like · Reply · 3 · Sep 28, 2014 4:21pm

Danielle Hendrickson
Someone explain to me please why Sites 3, 4, and 15 seem to be right on the Forest/Park border? It's not that I am okay with this in the Forest, but with the rules so stringent in the Park, it's odd that this is okay with them right on the border.
Like · Reply · 2 · Sep 28, 2014 5:23pm

Michelle Diamond Simpson · Owner at Sappho's Garden
The Navy expanded their practice range toward the end of last year (on the ocean). They are allowed to practice in environmentally sensitive areas. NOAA issues permits to them allowing them to take (kill) a certain amount of sea critters. This, on land expansion, has been planned for awhile, they just managed to keep it on the "down low" until now.
Like · Reply · 3 · Sep 29, 2014 6:46am



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