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47of74

(18,470 posts)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:56 AM May 2012

David Barton: Church Law Should Overrule Supreme Court Rulings

David Barton opens his trap again;

So you still don’t believe the Christian right wants to take over America and rip up the Constitution? Well, David Barton of Wallbuilders has a message for you. In one of his “Building on the American Heritage Series” videos uncovered by Right Wing Watch, Barton says that he doesn’t care if the Supreme Court rules in favor of homosexuality, it’s still illegal because God’s law is the supreme law of the land and supercedes Supreme Court rulings.

In other words, if the Bible has a verse that conservatives interpret to be contradictory of Supreme Court rulings, David Barton says the Supreme Court decision is invalid. This is why the Christian right is such a threat to the Constitution and our system of government and why it’s so important that we have separation of church and state in this country. If Barton had his way, Supreme Court decisions that rule in favor of abortion rights, gay rights, and many other rulings would be reversed by Biblical decree. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the Bible overrules the Supreme Court. Barton’s video is just more proof of how much the Christian Right hates the Constitution and our system of government.


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lookingfortruth

(263 posts)
1. Seriously, how is it all this is actually being discussed like these people have a legitimate
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:27 AM
May 2012

debate stance on the constitution.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
2. People seem to forget
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:32 AM
May 2012

what happened the last time the Church had absolute control, it was called the Dark Ages. For some people it was extremely painful...if you get my drift.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
3. This is only true if we ignore that the Constitution makes no mention of God or God's Law.
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:36 AM
May 2012

This is stated explicitly so in the Treaty of Tripoli.

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
4. Apt name for the group isn't it? "Wallbuilders".
Sat May 26, 2012, 03:30 AM
May 2012

They always forget the words of their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, whenever those words conflict with their socio-political views.

Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

The Apostle Paul co-signed this idea when he said in Romans 13:1-7: Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Ouch.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
6. How concerned should we be about this assclown?
Sat May 26, 2012, 03:56 AM
May 2012

I've never heard of him or Wallbuilders. Is he a lone nut preaching to a handful of other nuts, like Fred Phelps, or someone who has the potential to make Republican legislators sign one of those ridiculous pledges they're so fond of?

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
15. The SPLC has a profile on him
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:27 AM
May 2012

Named by Time in 2005 as one of the nation’s “25 Most Influential Evangelicals,” David Barton is a self-styled “historian” who has acted as a key bridge between the mainstream political right and radical-right religious ideology.

Barton, the founder and leader of WallBuilders, is best known for claiming that America was founded as a Christian nation and wrote a book entitled The Myth of Separation. He says the founding fathers intended only Christians to hold office, citing early documents to back that falsehood. Barton has no training as a historian beyond a bachelor’s in religious education from Oral Roberts University.

Barton’s historical revisionism goes beyond that. In a DVD, “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black and White,” he paints the Democratic Party as responsible for the travails of black Americans, conveniently omitting U.S. history after 1965 and the GOP’s subsequent racist “Southern strategy.”

The scary thing about David Barton is that he has the ear of so many. He is a former co-chairman of the Texas Republican Party, a one-time consultant to the Republican National Committee, and an adviser at various times to Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee. Last year, Huckabee said he wished all Americans could be “forced — forced at gunpoint no less — to listen to every David Barton message.” Former Fox News conspiracy-monger Glenn Beck uses Barton to teach history at Beck’s “university.”

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/david-barton

 

sevento47orpi

(12 posts)
8. Religious Nonsense in America is the problem
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:41 AM
May 2012

It is a historical fact that religious fundamentalists in a number of countries all over the world at one time or another get to the point where they become such an impediment to society at large that the rest of the society can no longer move forward and progress. Once that happens, which IMHO we have reached a long time ago, the majority comes to the conclusion that the religious fundamentalists have got to go and the religious fundamentalists are forcibly removed from the country for the general good. Once they are sent away the country will flourish once again.

Happens every time.

America needs to move forward without them or we will cease to be a free people or free country.

LuvNewcastle

(17,821 posts)
11. It's funny, the routes that history takes.
Sat May 26, 2012, 05:13 AM
May 2012

During the Reformation, Protestants were complaining about canon law superseding the civil law. Now that a certain group of Protestants have some power, they want to claim the same privileges for themselves that the Catholic hierarchy did at another time. Power is just too much temptation for some people, regardless of their religion.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
13. So he's against the death penalty ??
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:35 AM
May 2012

It is after all, rule #1.

wait until his fans hear that

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
14. Whose religion are we talking about?
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:38 AM
May 2012

I hate to break it to this schmuck. Church law has already long overruled the Constitution. That church being the Church of Mammon.

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