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Go Fund me for the girl that was beat by the cop in Spring Valley (Original Post) marym625 Oct 2015 OP
K & R beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #1
k and r niyad Oct 2015 #2
Kicking truebluegreen Oct 2015 #3
K&R nt UtahLib Oct 2015 #4
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #5
Thank you, Willy T! marym625 Oct 2015 #7
Just Donaated Yallow Oct 2015 #6
why would I have a problem with that statement? I completely agree marym625 Oct 2015 #8
WOW! They reached over their goal in 9 hours!!! Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #9
AWESOME! marym625 Oct 2015 #10
Now up even more! Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #11
I'm sorry you are going through so much. marym625 Oct 2015 #12
Thank you very much, marym625.... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #17
stay strong! n/t marym625 Oct 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author sunnystarr Oct 2015 #13
Deja vu (nt) sunnystarr Oct 2015 #14
Peace to you my friend.. Fumesucker Oct 2015 #18
Thank you, my friend... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #20
258%, outrageous. How is that even legal? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #56
I don't know, but it is... I live by your user name! n/t Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #64
Well, we need to change that. Hope things look up for you soon. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #66
It's over $32,000 now sunnystarr Oct 2015 #15
excellent questions. marym625 Oct 2015 #16
Any attorney who would start a Go Fund Me is a shyster adigal Oct 2015 #19
Don't kids in foster care usually have State funded medical care? Also, since her mother passed away Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #21
Her mother is alive. (nt) sunnystarr Nov 2015 #43
Thank you... I just read that update less than a half an hour ago.. Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #44
Bingo! B Calm Oct 2015 #22
he's the Democratic House Minority leader in South Carolina marym625 Nov 2015 #38
You made that point like 20 times in this thread and I still don't trust him. B Calm Nov 2015 #40
I responded to people who had concerns. marym625 Nov 2015 #45
LOL B Calm Nov 2015 #46
It's supposed to be for her legal defense. She was charged, don't forget. marym625 Oct 2015 #26
$32k for a legal defense against two misdemeanors? jberryhill Oct 2015 #29
yeah, something isn't right marym625 Oct 2015 #31
please see this post marym625 Nov 2015 #33
No, it was for medical expenses.. and the fund is over 40k now! From the gofundme site: Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #32
Thank you! marym625 Nov 2015 #37
Thank YOU for the extra information, and for staying on top of this story so diligently! Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #42
Wow! Thanks! marym625 Nov 2015 #51
My pleasure, and you have a great day, too! Peace! n/t Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #65
Mary, thank you for what you are doing. Tipperary Nov 2015 #47
That was very sweet. marym625 Nov 2015 #52
he's the Democratic House Minority leader in South Carolina marym625 Nov 2015 #34
he's the Democratic House Minority leader in South Carolina marym625 Nov 2015 #39
I'm suspicious of fund that the ATTORNEY set up. NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #23
Yes, this causes me a bit of unease as well. Tipperary Oct 2015 #25
me too. I'm checking it out marym625 Oct 2015 #27
Keep us posted on this, and thank you. Tipperary Oct 2015 #28
of course I will marym625 Oct 2015 #30
he's the Democratic House Minority leader in South Carolina marym625 Nov 2015 #36
he's the Democratic House Minority leader in South Carolina marym625 Nov 2015 #35
Well that's an innovative way for an attorney to make sure he gets paid. Vinca Nov 2015 #41
Not a big fan of lawyers here but I see nothing wrong with it. It's up to people whether or... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #48
There's nothing wrong with it, but having the attorney open the account is unusual. Vinca Nov 2015 #60
Yea, I'm pretty sure lots of lawyers in high-profile local and national cases are doing this or... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #61
All I really care is that this poor kid gets taken care of. Vinca Nov 2015 #62
Me too.... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #63
If she's in foster care SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #49
I have no doubt this find will be watched with hawk eyes. marym625 Nov 2015 #53
His being the SC House Minority Leader means nothing SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #54
Of course I don't. marym625 Nov 2015 #57
In my post further down I was not worried about fraud. Many jwirr Nov 2015 #58
Sorry, misunderstood. marym625 Nov 2015 #59
She is in a foster home. This money will go to pay what is jwirr Nov 2015 #50
I understand your concern marym625 Nov 2015 #55
Goal of 25k is now over 45k! B Calm Nov 2015 #67
Thank you for the update! n/t marym625 Nov 2015 #69
Kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #68
Thank you! n/t marym625 Nov 2015 #70
 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
6. Just Donaated
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:45 AM
Oct 2015

If she was white, it would have never happened.

Period.

Cops don't treat "white women" the same.

I don't care if you have a problem with that statement.

No, really. I don't care.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. why would I have a problem with that statement? I completely agree
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:57 AM
Oct 2015

Don't understand that.

But I'm very happy you donated! I hope everyone that has recd it has.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
9. WOW! They reached over their goal in 9 hours!!!
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:58 AM
Oct 2015

$25,318 of $25k
Raised by 952 people in 9 hours
Donate Now
SHARE ON FACEBOOK


Peace,

Ghost

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. AWESOME!
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:17 AM
Oct 2015

Thank you for the update!

I'm hoping that the other girl that's been charged also has an attorney.

And I hope that this girl, the one that was thrown around like a rag doll, has a guardian ad litem. Someone that can't gain from her. Someone that will protect her.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
11. Now up even more!
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:46 AM
Oct 2015

$27,675 of $25k
Raised by 1,046 people in 15 hours

I recced this thread, but wasn't able to donate myself. Fact is, I have been struggling with myself about setting up my own account there. I'm having a little hardship right now myself, and it feels like I'm drowning. I'm on disability and usually manage my money very well, but back in June, I finally paid off a truck I was buying and freed up some money. As soon as I got the clear title, I traded it. It was a 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 that got about 12 MPG on a good day! I have a friend who needed a work truck, and had a 1994 Acura Integra that he wanted to trade. The Acura gets over 30 MPG, so I jumped on it! Hadn't had it a week when it got stolen. Luckily it was found 2 days later, in the parking lot of a gas station. The only thing wrong was busted ignition... and the clutch was burned out. Over $500 to fix, which I didn't have so I went online and tried to get a credit card or loan. One company gave me a $650 line of credit. I misread the interest rate, thought it said 25.8%, but was actually 258%! With my upcoming payment, I will have paid back over $500... and my account balance is barely below the $650!

To make matters worse, a week after getting it back from having the clutch and ignition fixed, someone busted the windshield, driver's window and cracked the sun roof. I guess my friend had someone mad at him, and didn't know that he had traded the car. I was finally able to find a side window a few weeks ago, which I needed most because it's getting colder and I couldn't go anywhere if it was raining unless I wanted to get soaked. At least the windshield and sun roof don't leak, but I can't afford to fix them right now. Right now it just seems like every time I see a light at the end of a tunnel, it's another danged train about to crash into me!

Sorry to spill this out on you, but had to get it out of my head and off my chest. I feel a little better now just getting it out there. I've been too worried and stressed the past few months to the point that it affects my sleep. Seems like I wake up every couple of hours. Piddle around on here, then go back to sleep for a couple more hours. I apologize again for dumping this on you, but this is the first time I've told anyone about my current situation and, as stated, I feel a little better now. Guess I'll try to get 2 or 3 more hours of sleep now, then be up for the day.

Peace to you and yours,

Ghost

marym625

(17,997 posts)
12. I'm sorry you are going through so much.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015

I'm sure if you set up a gofund me and post it on du, you'll get some help. There are very good, generous people in du.

There are pitfalls to gofundme though. Not sure exactly what they are, but I know some people have had problems getting the money. Plus, they keep a percentage of what is raised. But I'm sure you would get enough to get you out from under water.

Again, I'm so sorry you're having problems.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
17. Thank you very much, marym625....
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:00 AM
Oct 2015

I have made it through worse before, but over the past few years it seems like I will be doing great for a while then BAM!!, everything hits me at once. I have always been able to roll with the punches... and somehow come out on top again, but lately it just seems to be harder to do. Maybe my deteriorating health, and the extra stress from that, has something to do with it??

Peace to you and yours, and thank you for the kind words..

Ghost

Response to Ghost in the Machine (Reply #11)

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
20. Thank you, my friend...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:10 AM
Oct 2015

Even kind words can mean a lot, and go a long way... right now I feel like I can't go any way but up, even if it's just in spirit. Thank you again...



Peace,

Ghost

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
15. It's over $32,000 now
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:37 PM
Oct 2015

Which certainly is more than what would be needed to defend against two misdemeanors. This shouldn't be a get rich quick remedy and there is nothing on the gonfundme page that states where the excess funds are going. Does the attorney just pocket the money?

I thought the goal of $25,000 was a bit high and it's way past that now. The generosity of people is so amazing but there are so many causes that need our help. This shouldn't be a reward in any case. Now if funds would be used to get rid of the crazy law in S.C. I could get behind it so that students are no longer criminalized for being teenagers.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
16. excellent questions.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

I hope there's a guardian ad litem. And, I hope that these funds (in excess) also go toward the defense of the other girl that was arrested.

I'll try to find out more

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
19. Any attorney who would start a Go Fund Me is a shyster
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:01 AM
Oct 2015

He should be taking a percentage of any award the girl would get from the school and police department in a lawsuit. Crook.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
21. Don't kids in foster care usually have State funded medical care? Also, since her mother passed away
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:27 AM
Oct 2015

wouldn't she be receiving some kind of Survivor's Benefits if the mother ever worked? When I got my disability approved both of my kids were minors. They both got a check each month until they turned 18. A woman that I dated for a while about 10 years ago passed away unexpectedly about 6 years ago, on her son's 16th birthday. We had remained friends and her son and mine were best friends. Her son drew a Survivor's Benefits check from her work, even though she hadn't worked in a few years, until he was 18.

Hopefully the lawyers are trying to maybe get her emancipated to get her out of foster care, and use the money to give her a head start in her new life.

Just some thoughts..

Peace,

Ghost

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
44. Thank you... I just read that update less than a half an hour ago..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:08 AM
Nov 2015

It was widely reported, erroneously, that she was an orphan, hence my questions. Her mother *and* grandmother are still alive, but she IS in foster care for some reason.

Peace,

Ghost

marym625

(17,997 posts)
45. I responded to people who had concerns.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:14 PM
Nov 2015

It's not like there's anything that notifies someone when a new reply is added to an OP if it's not your OP.

Your prerogative.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
26. It's supposed to be for her legal defense. She was charged, don't forget.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015

However, I wrote to the attorney asking about excess funds, a guardian ad litem, etc, and haven't received a response. I'll keep investigating

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. $32k for a legal defense against two misdemeanors?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

Lol, yeah, right.

I've taken federal civil suits to dismissal for way less than that.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
32. No, it was for medical expenses.. and the fund is over 40k now! From the gofundme site:
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:14 PM
Oct 2015
Jane Doe was the victim of police brutality. While seated in her desk, doing her math work, former Deputy Ben Fields forcibly removed her from the desk by choking her, flipping the desk over while she was still seated, and slinging her six feet across the classroom by her clothes. As a result, she suffers injuries to her ribs, back, neck, shoulder; a broken arm, and abrasions to her face. The funds raised will be put towards medical costs, educational expenses, and any other expenses she has to endure. {emphasis mine}

https://www.gofundme.com/7w7h7cvw



Hence my post above wondering if she gets State funded medical care as a ward of the State, and whether she gets any Survivor's Benefits from Social Security from her mother.

Peace,

Ghost

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
42. Thank YOU for the extra information, and for staying on top of this story so diligently!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:20 AM
Nov 2015

This is why I have mentioned you a couple of times in my list of Top 10 posters here. Real assets to DU, Which include (in no particular order) H2O Man, sea fan, Octafish, kpete and a few others... I just woke up, and am still shaking the cobwebs out and don't mean to leave anyone out.

I also don't mean that anyone else is less important, nor am I trying to denigrate anyone else. Everyone here is an asset since they represent, and vote for, the Democratic Party... but we all have our favorites that we look forward to reading...

Peace,

Ghost

marym625

(17,997 posts)
51. Wow! Thanks!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

Those are some of my favorites too. Honored anyone thinks I rank with them!

Me too, still waking up. The extra hour seemed to leave me more tired. Weird.

Have a great day!

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
47. Mary, thank you for what you are doing.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

I like to be reminded there are some great people here on the du.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
25. Yes, this causes me a bit of unease as well.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:57 AM
Oct 2015

What kind of lawyer sets up a gofundme? Seems odd. What is the money for? I am so worried this girl is going to be used by those who do not give a damn about her.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
28. Keep us posted on this, and thank you.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:07 PM
Oct 2015

Something about this whole case bothers me deeply. The cop was the first criminal to hurt this child, but I just think she has no one with her best interests at heart and now this lawyer will be the next. I wonder if she even has someone just to put their arms around her and comfort her.

Everyone needs that, and I cannot imagine the confusion, the fear, the utter bewilderment she must be feeling. Yeah, money is great, but it will not fix psychic pain.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
48. Not a big fan of lawyers here but I see nothing wrong with it. It's up to people whether or...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

...not they donate. Looks like nearly 1600 people have donated for an average of roughly $25 each.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
60. There's nothing wrong with it, but having the attorney open the account is unusual.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

Especially since he's looking at a very big payday somewhere down the road.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
61. Yea, I'm pretty sure lots of lawyers in high-profile local and national cases are doing this or...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nov 2015

...advising their clients to do it. It's part of the new (it is new, no?) crowd-funding industry that's become part of the fabric of the 21st Century.

Yea, he's looking at a nice pay day there. The city has already as much as admitted fault in any lawsuit when they fired the cop. It should be a nice settlement for the child, and the lawyer.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
49. If she's in foster care
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:27 PM
Nov 2015

her medical expenses should already be covered, she's in a public school, so what educational expenses does she need, etc.

Obviously, people should donate if they feel moved to do so, but it smells of a lawyer making a quick buck to me.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
53. I have no doubt this find will be watched with hawk eyes.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

She's in the system. He's the South Carolina House Minority Leader. Any shenanigans would hurt him to a much greater extent than this amount of money would help him.

I understand the skepticism. I just think this is much too public to be anything but legitimate

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
54. His being the SC House Minority Leader means nothing
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:50 PM
Nov 2015

Unless you believe that politicians are incorruptible.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
57. Of course I don't.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

But I also know that the Republicans in South Carolina will do whatever they can to bring him down.

Because she is in the system, she also has a case worker and a guardian ad litem. This is too public, imho, to be used for anything but to help her.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
58. In my post further down I was not worried about fraud. Many
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

support programs such as Medicaid require you to use your own resources before they cover you. They are also closely watching this.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
59. Sorry, misunderstood.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

I have another post about this and have the attorney's address to send encouragement to this girl. It surely would at least be uplifting. And it's a way to help without sending money.

Thank you, jwirr. Always a pleasure!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
50. She is in a foster home. This money will go to pay what is
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

already being paid by the state. I would love to help her but I am not sure that her attorney understands what a state does to any money for those who are being helped in any way by the state. My understanding is that since her mother died she is an orphan.

Unless this is for attorney fees then it will go to him.

God knows the girl needs help but I just think this is not the way unless it somehow is enough to get her out of the system entirely.

Helping the poor with money when they are on various programs does nothing but pay the taxpayer their money back.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
55. I understand your concern
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

Please see my response to the post above yours.

Also, she's not an orphan. Turns out the New York Daily News misquoted Rutherford.

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