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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:36 AM Oct 2015

Yazidi culture adjusts to ISIS mass rape. Rape no longer considered a dishonor

For Yazidis, the tragedy is so great that their own strict traditions have had to adjust.

'Hundreds' of Yazidi women killing themselves in ISIS captivity

Before ISIS attacked Sinjar, marrying outside the Yazidi faith was strictly condemned. Those accused of adultery -- and even victims of rape -- could be killed for "dishonoring" their family.

But that is changing, according to Baba Sheikh, who desperately wants those abducted by ISIS to return.

"Anyone who comes back will be warmly welcomed home," he insists. "They should keep their heads up. They have done nothing wrong. And they should not be worried."

His words are a source of comfort for the tormented; even as ISIS attempts to destroy the Yazidi people in the name of religion, the terror group's victims may still find solace at home.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/08/middleeast/isis-rape-theology-soldiers-rape-women-to-make-them-muslim/index.html

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Yazidi culture adjusts to ISIS mass rape. Rape no longer considered a dishonor (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 OP
This is just tragic on so many levels. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #1
If I am not much mistaken, Jewish faith is very pragmatic in extreme situations. KitSileya Oct 2015 #2
That is true. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #4
I didn't say it, which is why you successfully defeated your own strawman. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #5
Took the words right out of my mouth. LostOne4Ever Oct 2015 #6
how damned generous of them. pansypoo53219 Oct 2015 #7
that was my first thought too... Javaman Oct 2015 #9
That's nice. Quantess Oct 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #10
I find that fascinating. Brickbat Oct 2015 #11
While it's sad that that it takes something like this mythology Oct 2015 #12

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
1. This is just tragic on so many levels.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:46 AM
Oct 2015

The fact a woman was considered "dishonorable" for being raped is barbaric, though it sadly still exists in Western culture too (look at the assholes who talk about "legitimate rape&quot . It is good the culture is changing, but sad it took something like this. I know the Jews, even Orthodox ones, dropped the "sin" of being tattooed and cremated after the events of the Holocaust.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
2. If I am not much mistaken, Jewish faith is very pragmatic in extreme situations.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:13 AM
Oct 2015

Isn't is so that if you are starving to death, you are allowed to eat non-kosher food? Because preservation of life is paramount? I think I read that somewhere in connection with the Holocaust.

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
3. That is true.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:50 AM
Oct 2015

There are rules and there are exceptions, many of us enjoy the "exceptions." But, yes, the Holocaust (and a few other events) caused so reflection about how "strict" one has to be in certain situations.

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Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
5. I didn't say it, which is why you successfully defeated your own strawman.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:23 AM
Oct 2015

Congrats.

Whether you are aware or not, I can guess which, there are those in the West who do consider women "dishonored" despite being a victim of rape or sexual assault. While they may not take it to the extremes other groups do, nor is it a mainstream cultural phenomena, it is as disgusting, dehumanizing, demeaning, and sometimes deadly, nonetheless.

LostOne4Ever

(9,752 posts)
6. Took the words right out of my mouth.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:36 AM
Oct 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=indigo]It shouldn't take something like this for people to realize that blaming someone for being raped is wrong.

And no culture should have to endure what the Yazidis are enduring now, or what your people endured back then.

The only silver lining I can see, is that if the nightmare going on in the middle east ever ends, the Yazidi women will no longer be shamed for being raped. That is something, though it never should have came from such a high price.[/font]

Javaman

(65,694 posts)
9. that was my first thought too...
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:34 AM
Oct 2015

it took something this horrible to finally wake the fuck up about rape.

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mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. While it's sad that that it takes something like this
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:07 PM
Oct 2015

To prompt change, it's good that they are willing to change.

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