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RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:09 AM May 2012

Anyone Can See that America is Shutting Down

See >>> http://economyincrisis.org/content/america-shutting-down

America is shutting down. Our political system is flawed and no longer benefits Americans. Our priorities have been completely displaced.

How could we be so careless as to let the the U.S. descend in so short a time from being a wealthy and productive nation to one controlled by lobbyists, living on imports, selling our companies to our foreign competitors and living on ever increasing debt.

Our decline has been the result of decades of failed policies that are still running rampant:


See >>> http://economyincrisis.org/content/america-shutting-down
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Anyone Can See that America is Shutting Down (Original Post) RKP5637 May 2012 OP
It isn't over until "WE" say it's over! IADEMO2004 May 2012 #1
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #2
We'll find out what it is WE'll say in November. Just let me remind you that about Cal33 May 2012 #10
I remember my husband talking when Bush gave us a tax cut and we got back about $600.00. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #3
Yep! Exactly what happened. n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #4
I remember him saying to me these people think $600 is a big f**king deal. Then southernyankeebelle May 2012 #8
And the sad part of it, is millions of Americans apparently want to go down that RKP5637 May 2012 #11
I was feeling like that yesterday. I blame the dems because they don't fight for us southernyankeebelle May 2012 #18
Yep, they can't stand having a black man in the WH. I do think that's RKP5637 May 2012 #23
You got that right. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #24
We're eating crow about how nothing like that could happen here lunatica May 2012 #5
The really troubling point I always notice is so many Americans appear RKP5637 May 2012 #6
I don't think so, at least not in so much as the article implies that these policies Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #7
The same was said in the 1930's and we came back to become the "wealthy and productive nation" pampango May 2012 #9
America will never decline, we are just like Rome! DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #12
Yep, that sums it up well! n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #19
Only if we bring our capitalism into balance... cilla4progress May 2012 #13
PS cilla4progress May 2012 #14
Good observations ... I can't recall where I read it or heard it, they, whomever, RKP5637 May 2012 #20
Hate to be so apocalyptic, but - cilla4progress May 2012 #21
It bothers me a lot, my daily mood, even waking at night thinking about it ... I'm not RKP5637 May 2012 #22
I really hate clicking yes. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #15
Failed policies of richie rich. lonestarnot May 2012 #16
the grover norquists must be nuetered, or we will be spain circa 1600. pansypoo53219 May 2012 #17
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. We'll find out what it is WE'll say in November. Just let me remind you that about
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

half of our nation have been brain-washed, and they do believe the right-wing lies.
Right now it looks like a toss-up.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. I remember my husband talking when Bush gave us a tax cut and we got back about $600.00.
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:18 AM
May 2012

Bush told us to go shopping. Well my husband said people are foolish they think they are getting something for nothing. It turned out he was right. We got 2 unpaid wars.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
8. I remember him saying to me these people think $600 is a big f**king deal. Then
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:42 AM
May 2012

said we will have to pay for this break down the line. We are. How stupid the some of these people don't realize the Bush tax breaks screwed us over very well. Now Mittens wants to go back at that apple again.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
11. And the sad part of it, is millions of Americans apparently want to go down that
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:01 AM
May 2012

same path again, lead by America's most notorious corporate hatchet man with Bain Capital. Some days, I wonder why I even care anymore.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
18. I was feeling like that yesterday. I blame the dems because they don't fight for us
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:05 PM
May 2012

like they did in the old days. They don't explain it the way republicans do. They speak to the 10 graders and they tell them what they want to hear and fear. I have to say after Booker inserted his foot in his mouth last week I thought the president explained the difference what a venture capitalist does and what a president is suppose to do. I mean you can't say it any clearer but these idiots hate the black man.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. We're eating crow about how nothing like that could happen here
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:21 AM
May 2012

And most Americans still don't have a clue.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
6. The really troubling point I always notice is so many Americans appear
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:25 AM
May 2012

Last edited Sat May 26, 2012, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)

to be ignorant of history, at least relative to nations failing. They seem to think there is some impenetrable shield for America, that no matter how torn the fabric of America is, we will all just be fine, and they can just plod along in their daily lives.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
7. I don't think so, at least not in so much as the article implies that these policies
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

are not working. These policies are doing exactly what they are intended to do and they exist because of the tireless work of a small number of dedicated people throughout the political landscape to bring this about.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. The same was said in the 1930's and we came back to become the "wealthy and productive nation"
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:53 AM
May 2012

referred to in the article.

I don't think it is predestined that we will come back just because we are "exceptional" or so different from other countries. I don't think it was predestined that we would come back from the Great Depression but we did.

It is possible that we will come back again to be a "wealthy and productive nation", but that will only happen if we adopt policies similar to those that led to our comeback in after the Depression and WWII, i.e. high/progressive taxes, an effective safety net, effective regulation of corporations and Wall Street, support for strong unions, etc.

"Our decline has been the result of decades of failed policies that are still running rampant." So far it is not looking good.

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
13. Only if we bring our capitalism into balance...
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012

adopting more socialist policies, i.e., universal health care; paid / subsidized college (how galling that the Repubs think that capitalizing the costs is an INDIVIDUAL benefit - it is for the future our COUNTRY!; and equity in finance /investing, can we be saved. Not to mention environmental protection.

I doubt we have the political will. I don't see the pendulum swinging back short of crisis. As long as we hold the mighty dollar as our national deity, we are sunk.

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
14. PS
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

I think our society is already evidencing neurotic responses to our condition: sexuality taken to perversion; our treatment of animals in the food-chain; bullying across gender-identity lines, to name only a few.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
20. Good observations ... I can't recall where I read it or heard it, they, whomever,
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:32 PM
May 2012

went into great detail on the observations you just mentioned ... basically the society starts to consume itself with egregious behavior and hostilities.

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
21. Hate to be so apocalyptic, but -
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:54 PM
May 2012

it's frightening. Esp. for our young folk. I know it affects my daily mood, but I try to just do what I can, tap into humor, and think philosophically about it. Hopefully the indigenous peoples, plants and animals that were here first will reclaim their dominance...

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
22. It bothers me a lot, my daily mood, even waking at night thinking about it ... I'm not
Sat May 26, 2012, 08:43 PM
May 2012

trying to say I'm a visionary or anything, but I've always been pretty perceptive on feeling out trends, at least in business. It bothers me because I'm starting to get really apocalyptic about all of this stuff going on anymore. Like you, I can just feel we're on a really really bad path. Too many in the country are in la la land, at least IMO.

pansypoo53219

(20,969 posts)
17. the grover norquists must be nuetered, or we will be spain circa 1600.
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:03 PM
May 2012

but we can halt the decline the publikkklans desire.

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