No One is Talking About Taking Your Guns. And Why, Exactly, is That?

[SecularMotion]

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The National Rifle Association (NRA) and the even further right-leaning Gun Owners of America continue to stoke fears of gun confiscation in America with able assistance from their political arm, the Republican Party. This is happening in spite of the fact that no Democratic politician is suggesting such a thing or sadly, appears to even want such a thing. Writing for Talking Points Memo, Catherine Thompson compares the current hysteria over gun confiscation to the threat of the Jade Helm exercise, and suggests that this too will all blow over in a couple of months when no guns are confiscated. Meanwhile, politicians like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump use the issue to raise funds from their base and increase their poll numbers.

The point of the gun confiscation hysteria is to prevent any discussion of gun control.

The NRA does not want us to talk about ways to control gun violence through restricting, in any way shape or form, guns or ammunition. Because of that, if for no other reason, we should discuss it. We should discuss it because firearms are used to kill people, including children. We should discuss it because while they are only 13 percent of our total population, blacks represent 55 percent of the victims of firearm homicides. We should discuss it because over 20,000 people used guns last year to commit suicide.

It is time to start paying more attention to the unalienable right of all Americans to life, and a little less to a tortured interpretation of a pretty straightforward amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2015/11/no-one-is-talking-about-taking-your-guns-and-why-exactly-is-that/

[trumad]

1. Responsible gun owners are cowards when it comes to the NRA.

[GGJohn]

14. Here's a good legit alternative.

http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/

[Duckhunter935]

2. They are openly here

[chervilant]

3. k and r

In my neck of the woods, every time I mention stricter gun laws, the discussion devolves into "Obama's gonna take my guns!"

These are purportedly educated folk.

[Lee-Lee]

4. You only have to look at the many mentions of the Austrailian model on here and by politicians

To know that people are, in fact, talking about confiscation.

Do I need to like to any of the dozens of threads on here in recent weeks advocating exactly what the original posts says nobody is advocating?

[Darb]

8. Perhaps you could point to a bill in Congress or any state that.....

calls for confiscation. Thanks.

[Thinkingabout]

5. Best fund raiser material, they get lots of donations. If there were more people who stopped the

Dues and donations and told them to either get in the game of halting the gun violence or they were leaving the NRA the only resource left to them for money would be the manufactures. I dont want guns seized, my family are big hunters, they don't take large magazines hunting, they would be the laughing stock if they did not hit their mark the first time. The military needs weapons lime this, they are in the war business. I own guns but if it meant registering the guns and this would result in less gun violence i am all in.

[pipoman]

6. It wouldn't result in any such thing

The second amendment hasn't a single solitary thing to do with hunting.

Those who attribute vast power to the NRA are simply ignorant of the truth that the 2nd has been defined by the courts and "common sense gun control" is almost always constitutionally impossible at the federal level.

Those who attribute great power to gun manufacturers are also ignorant that ALL US gun manufacturers in the US combined don't have enough revenue to qualify as a single Fortune 500 company...

No, the people of the US don't support most gun control, and the constitution doesn't allow the rest.

[Darb]

9. Polling suggests otherwise.

And the interpretations of the 2A were made by a 5-4 division among whom the 5 have been wrong about every single issue for years, including Bush v. Gore.

[pipoman]

18. No, polling doesn't suggest otherwise

The only gun related legislation supported by the majority is "universal background checks" which are constitutionally impossible at the federal level. Gun control in general polls in the 30%'s.

Almost every single SCOTUS decision of interpretation is 5-4 and has been for a very long time. None of the decisions of 2nd amendment interpretations in the last 30 years will be revisited in any of our lifetimes. Gun control is a state issue and most states aren't interested..

[Thinkingabout]

19. I understand there is another group which has become popular since NRA has gone to the crazy

side. I know a guy who has three AR15 type guns, told me I had better get one, I declined and would not purchase one. We are in a sad state of affairs.

[Snobblevitch]

7. Just a short time ago

HRC said she would favor gun laws in the U.S. to emulate those that were passed in Austrailia.

[Darb]

10. I'm certain that you could provide a link to that quote........

not that I doubt gun proponents.

[GGJohn]

15. ...

http://www.smh.com.au/world/hillary-clintons-wish-for-australianstyle-gun-laws-an-offer-gunowners-cant-refuse-20151018-gkcbb0.html

[ileus]

17. Have you been under a rock???

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/clinton-weigh-australian-style-gun-buyback-usa-nra-massacre-151017225414484.html

[ileus]

16. sadly, appears to even want such a thing

Why would the writer find that sad.

Reads like the complaint of this person is that no one will talk confiscation.


Sad part is the writer seems to not understand the right to life is the main basis for firearm ownership.

[BooScout]

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