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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBen Carson: Humans walked on the moon because America was founded on God
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-humans-walked-on-the-moon-because-america-was-founded-on-god/comments/#disqus"Ben Carson thinks human beings were able to travel to the moon because the United States was founded as a Christian nation.
Heres what is also fascinating, the Republican presidential candidate explains in a video published by the Adventist News Network. This nation the United States of America one of the few nations in history to claim God in their founding documents we talk about in our Declaration of Independence certain inalienable rights given to us by our Creator, every one of our coins, every one of our bills says In God We Trust.'
In the video, described as a celebration of creationism from 2011, Carson suggests that Americas belief in God resulted in a technological revolution.
Now I want you to think about something, he says. This nation has had a profound effect on the world. Before the United States of America came on the scene, for 100 years, 200 years, a 1,000 years, 3,000 years, people did things the same way within 200 years of the advent of this nation, which believed in God, men were walking on the moon. Completely revolutionized and changed the world because a nation was willing to acknowledge God.
It just keeps getting more insane. Or funnier, depending upon your take. I guess he wasn't aware that the godless Russians made it to the Moon before we did.
underpants
(196,494 posts)Isn't that what hypnotists say?
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)For a brain surgeon, he says the weirdest ish.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)And he's not chilled out.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)He might get that medical grade. Plus his pain meds from the cancer. He needs it, imo. Better low key then stabbin folks.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I am all second hand knowledge. Sooooo... I'll trust you on this one.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and that was never close to getting me that detached from reality. Not even the "one-puff-to-the-Moon" Thai sticks of the late 1970s and early 1980s.
I wonder if he's not self-medicating with some serious shit like Thorazine or Haldol. He obviously has the zombie vocal cadence of someone on high doses of those very strong anti-psychotic meds, but you'd think those would get rid of his constant hallucinations and, I'd bet. the voices he has in his head all day every day.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Combine some vicodin and some weed and prolly scotch, he looks like a scotch guy, hoo boy!! Ben is on one!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)But to get that zombied-out I have to be knee-walking drunk, yet he manages to stand up for hours at a time at the klown shows.
Vicodin/weed/scotch actually sounds pretty plausible. One stiff scotch on top of some hillbilly heroin and top-grade herb could get you pretty damned wack without smelling like a wino.
What's baffling is that he seems to be in this unhinged state 24 hours per day.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I bet it's because his cure is scotch, vicodin and weed!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)when he meets people, he is Ben Jovial and they all love him.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)He sounds like people from my old Church.
All religious people sound like that to me. ALL OF THEM. All. Everylastone. The second they get religious, my eyes glaze. Now, a thank god, or a bless you, or pray for je is cool, i might even sit and pretend to pray if somebody needs it, but once they start nattering,
.
Rex
(65,616 posts)God and Nazis...what a combo!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)And that is saying something, the man makes unusual people seem very mundane by comparison.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)This country is done if that guy or Cruz gets into the WH. Game over.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I say we set up OUR gated community first...last thing we want is for those darn South Plutonians coming around...with their rock and roll and skin tight jeans!
Their jibber jabber and slang talk.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Have to make sure people don't forget what they left behind!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)There can be only one...with all the money! ERRR...I mean...Plutonians listen to my tale about a place you can go to called Earth! Ruled by this evil devil named Ben.
"Tithe at the church of Pluto or be cast down...er...sideways to Earth!"
WE can have the monarchy, church and office all rolled into one!
Can I get a Praise Pluto!?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Everytime I see Carson now I will think...Praise Pluto! Thanks bravenak, I am laughing-crying so hard my shirt looks like I stepped out into the rain.
AND this is still so far away from the main GOP show! Can we survive more hillarity, who will be next?
Jeb? Cruz? Can Ben Carson be topped? That shit with the pyramids was something else and now God's help to the Moon.
Just a small push.
PRAISE PLUTO!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I wa believing in levitation, aliens, all manner of wonders. Then I left class. It was gone. Except the aliens part.
Imagine him on the debate stage.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Clearly, with phototogrophy...it can be seen the dinosaurs did it!

T-Rex was bigger back in those days do to a larger amount of oxygen in the air.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)There are many that believe The History Channel makes them honorary historians. So does Google U.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)

Rex
(65,616 posts)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)YouTube is @#$% things up. Half my favorites are now blocked (uploaders won't sign YouTube Red contract) and now this link is wonky.
ProfessorGAC
(76,702 posts)Venus is a shorter ride, too! You should reconsider, Brave!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,702 posts)Property taxes are really low, too! Maybe my wife and i will come with ya!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Can't be all bad.

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bravenak
(34,648 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,804 posts)And a lot of empty parking places.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They be in my way.
Rex
(65,616 posts)on Earth.
ProfessorGAC
(76,702 posts)Then we'll see who's laughing!
Hell's bells, Crazy Uncle Benny will already be there - as head of the welcoming committee. He may be already.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)
Initech
(108,783 posts)Remember this gem of a campaign ad?
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Hmmmm... tough call.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Does that ad even make sense? Never saw that one...WTFF? I'm left...with no words.
Initech
(108,783 posts)I wonder when they finished it, the people who made it were like "nailed it!"?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Volaris
(11,704 posts)most of our (initial) post ww2 rocket and propulsion systems were Bogarted from the Germans anyway. Not saying that nazi v2 rockets got us to the moon, (they clearly didnt) but Verner Von Braun didnt become the original 'steely-eyed missle man' by not cashing Hitlers paychecks and marching in peace parades..he got that way by activley trying to destroy London, and it taught him a lot.
But if he likes to think that NASA getting to the moon was more Jeezuz than Jermanz...well....
Rex
(65,616 posts)The story he told of Joseph was half correct...he even fudges on urban myths! Needs to stop smoking so much chronic imo.

Before I answer that question, does anyone want to order pizza?
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Rex
(65,616 posts)WELL DONE!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Gah!!!
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)If God does love us more than other countries....he will give us this guy as our Republican opponent!
HRC will mop the floor with this poser!
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)the oval office is going to have padded wallpaper.
randome
(34,845 posts)"He hasn't had his din-dins yet."
"I know but...damnit, it's an emergency!"
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Rex
(65,616 posts)People did NOT do the same thing 100 years ago as they did 3000 years ago. Unless he is talking about eating and shitting.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"special." That kind of special.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)
packman
(16,296 posts)Damn, I thought the Jews had a lock on that. Or maybe those red-hot Christian Spaniards, or Roman Catholics - Naw, just us Godly Americans who looked up to the moon after slaughtering the American-Indians, or Godly Americans on those midnight rides in their white robes and said, " Oh Lordy, I gots to go to that moon for God's sake."
Mendocino
(8,492 posts)rock and roll, swing too. That's the ticket, yeah!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Oh what, it was a heathen Italian.
Johonny
(26,178 posts)Vinca
(53,994 posts)they ain't seen nothin' yet.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)God help us!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)sound like Stephen Hawking or Richard Feynman.

HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Yuri Gargarin, first man in space. "Scuze me while I check that spelling... April 12, 1961 and it's Gagarin, without the extra R I stuck in there.
As for Carson's logic, I will accept it, but I guess it means we overstayed our welcome on God' moon, and He prevented Apollo 13 from getting there. Almost killed the astronauts, in fact.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)The Russians landed a probe on it before we even sent someone into space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_2
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Ilsa
(64,368 posts)I was melting down inside just a little.
romanic
(2,841 posts)JFC.
onenote
(46,142 posts)Like this guy:
This guy isn't Drunk History, he's Hallucinogenic History.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"I makes zhure zey go up
Don't care vhere zey come down,
Zat's not mein department!"
Says Wernher von Braun.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... was the funniest man on the planet. I had every one of his albums. He was also a professor of mathematics at Harvard. The musty-smelling stuffed shirts that ran that august institution thought it unseemly for a Harvard professor to be funny, so they told him that he had to stop being one of those things.
Alas, the world became a sadder, grayer place when Lehrer chose to shuffle back into the shadows of academia.
I still miss you, Tom.
spanone
(141,609 posts)JI7
(93,615 posts)And I'm thinking a lot of it is an act. Like the story of how he use to be violent. But that christian redemption thing is appealing to a segment of the republican party
wiggs
(8,812 posts)is primary gold.
yellowcanine
(36,792 posts)Von Braun went out of his way to surrender to the Americans rather than the Soviets near Peenemünde at the end of WWII. Von Braun was instrumental in the development of the Saturn V rocket which was used in the Apollo program. Without the Saturn V we may have still eventually gotten to the moon but probably not in nearly the same time period. So Ben if you want to say that Von Braun is God, okay, but otherwise you are quite full of shit.
shenmue
(38,598 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)There's nothing to protect.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)

How is it possible to even BE this stupid and still remember to breathe?
struggle4progress
(126,150 posts)during the Apollo 11 landing!

The photographer unfortunately didn't get the goat sacrifice into the shot
unblock
(56,198 posts)i'm fed up with idiots trying to turn our nation into everything our founders loathed about the nations they fled.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Or never realized it existed. Nothing happened until America?
People did things the same way and no progress was made. OK.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)China, India and the Muslims....quite a feat.
treestar
(82,383 posts)All of Asia, Africa and the Indian subcontinent!
If Ben doesn't know about it, it never happened!
rockfordfile
(8,742 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Didn't post-war Nazi scientists have a lot to do with the success of our space program?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)But they were the good/reformed ones. The CIA kept all the unreformed Nazi true believers for itself. Project Paperclip.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)I see an even more asinine statement attributed to that dumb ass. Oh but wait. . "He's smart. He's a neurosurgeon."
Hmmm. Maybe he can do brain surgery, but if he's not stupid, he's 100% CRAZY.
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The Magna Carta plus rather a lot of John Locke and David Hume, a bit of Rousseau and the general background principles of Enlightenment rationality and scientism. Jefferson and Madison had read them all, countless times.
But don't tell the repigs and the jebus-wheezers that.
kydo
(2,679 posts)And that the US hid these scientists Nazi past's so they could build rockets for the US and not the Soviets, right? And that, that whole "Under God" and "In God We Trust," are new additions right? And that the founding moral values are not solely copyrighted by Christians, they are morale and values humanity has had for well over 2,000 years, right?
Oh wait never mind .... I forgot we were talking about Dr Ben the nutty nero-surgeon who gave himself a frontal lobotomy once.... Crazy Ben ....
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)DetlefK
(16,670 posts)Ada Lovelace, Alan Turing and Konrad Zuse.
And I dare to claim that computers played a major role in getting to the Moon.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)"Recruit Recursion! Nasty belligerent pigs like you are why the Russians beat us to the moon!"
as well as
"We won at Pearl Harbor because we were prepared!"
(For the curious, he's not remotely stupid; it's an attempt to get you to break your composure.)
B Calm
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Javaman
(65,711 posts)by training his ass to talk.
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swwallace81
(47 posts)Am I the only one reminded of Chance in Being There?
tclambert
(11,193 posts)I can picture Ben Carson saying this: "In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again." Except Carson would then conclude that climate change is a myth.
JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)Those countries included in Central and South America have a stronger Christian contingency than the US and also did great things, like drug cartels and vacation resorts. It just proves that with God all things are possible.
Hahaha
VWolf
(3,944 posts)Ben Carson: A special kind of stupid
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)Not always, asshole!
1950

2010

"In God We Trust" was added to coins minted after 1864 largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. It was added to paper money in 1957. source
Since then, religious and secular groups have argued over the appropriateness and constitutionality of a motto that mentions God, considering the founding fathers' dedication to maintaining the separation of church and state.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)god's will and would have happened anyway? Damn.
Eric J in MN
(35,639 posts)Such as: all of them.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)eppur_se_muova
(41,939 posts)Under Ezana (fl. 320360) Aksum {now in modern Ethiopa} adopted Christianity.
So where's their stinking rewards ?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)NonMetro
(631 posts)"In God We Trust" became the motto when he was 5. So now, we have people like him running off their mouths about how the nation was founded on a belief in God, when, in fact, The United States was the first country in the world to be founded on a secular basis with a separation of church and state. And we have McCarthy era Republicans and Dwight D. Eisenhower to thank for this undermining of our secular democracy - and guys like Ben Carson to thank for spreading this malicious lie!
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)Most of the technological advances have been made since women got out of tightly-laced corsets.
Hey, it makes as much sense as what he said!!!
quaker bill
(8,264 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)or the Christian God more fervently before ''Merica to be worthy of the moon..
Not Moses and the Israelites. Not the disciples. Not the early Christians who were fed to the lions.
American exceptionalism.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Yep, that's paying homage to Jesus to make sure he lands the astronauts on the Moon safely!
kwolf68
(8,452 posts)So if "God" in the founding documents allowed us to goto the moon then why the fuck didn't we go there in 1777?
Dumbass
cynzke
(1,254 posts)I thought we were on the verge of sinking to a communist dictatorship but Faux news saved us?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The guy should read a history book.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and rowing their little fishing boats.
And that's how our godly nation was born
Moostache
(11,178 posts)problem is that the Bible is not real history, its not even real anecdotes.
These biblical literalist types like him and Cruz and their mouth breathing fans all need to be treated for mental illness. They no more belong in positions of power than my lawn care specialists.
Martak Sarno
(77 posts)It looks as though the Republican plan for dumbing down Americans in Science, Technology and Revising History finally has its real, live poster boy.
And it looks as though it's working, too, judging by those who believe him.
SAPs (Stupid AMerican Public)
They_Live
(3,373 posts)that Joseph could store inside of the moon!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)NonMetro
(631 posts)And this conceited jerk thinks he can be president of this nation of over 300 million people? He needs to crawl back into whatever hole in the wall he came out of! He's a joke!
ThingsGottaChange
(1,200 posts)for someone to force him to have a psychiatric evaluation???? It's like listening to someone who has a severe mental disorder or brain damage of some sort. Enough already!
And before you bash me for (gasp!) mentioning a mental disorder, I have one myself. Which is why I don't talk much.
MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)I'm quite sure that he can't wait to get back to not being elected, so he can get back to his bread and butter.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I see this one and think so.. On that one that is the Christian Belief. the Irony being thanks to a Catholic Democrat (which I was just reminded) that Catholics could never be elected... we went up. But we haven't gone back up because his kind thinks it costs too much money. Don't go after someone because of his beliefs please. Albeit I do but only so far as to say 10 years of it being pounded into my head that there are 4 main cults and so far people who pounded that into my head are big fans of Cults of late First Mormons in 2012 and now 7th days .. which right now via mergers there are 2 Lutherans running. (Presbyterians, which with the UCC merged in 1997 with the ELCA) thus Obama and Donald Trump are of the same religion Lutheran.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I see this one and think so.. On that one that is the Christian Belief. the Irony being thanks to a Catholic Democrat (which I was just reminded) that Catholics could never be elected... we went up. But we haven't gone back up because his kind thinks it costs too much money. Don't go after someone because of his beliefs please. Albeit I do but only so far as to say 10 years of it being pounded into my head that there are 4 main cults and so far people who pounded that into my head are big fans of Cults of late First Mormons in 2012 and now 7th days .. which right now via mergers there are 2 Lutherans running. (Presbyterians, which with the UCC merged in 1997 with the ELCA) thus Obama and Donald Trump are of the same religion Lutheran.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and all of the facets that makes these politicians view the important issues from a certain paradigm.
This stuff from Carson is scary shit...therefore I agree with the person up thread that if God was really in the Carson camp, he would help Carson win the GOP nomination. I'd be ok with that.
randys1
(16,286 posts)thucythucy
(9,103 posts)and I don't recall any Spanish galleons landing in the Bay of Tranquility.
Just sayin'.