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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:22 PM Nov 2015

Ben Carson: Humans walked on the moon because America was founded on God

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-humans-walked-on-the-moon-because-america-was-founded-on-god/comments/#disqus

"Ben Carson thinks human beings were able to travel to the moon because the United States was founded as a Christian nation.

“Here’s what is also fascinating,” the Republican presidential candidate explains in a video published by the Adventist News Network. “This nation — the United States of America — one of the few nations in history to claim God in their founding documents — we talk about in our Declaration of Independence certain inalienable rights given to us by our Creator, every one of our coins, every one of our bills says ‘In God We Trust.'”

In the video, described as a “celebration of creationism from 2011,” Carson suggests that America’s belief in God resulted in a technological revolution.

“Now I want you to think about something,” he says. “This nation has had a profound effect on the world. Before the United States of America came on the scene, for 100 years, 200 years, a 1,000 years, 3,000 years, people did things the same way… within 200 years of the advent of this nation, which believed in God, men were walking on the moon. Completely revolutionized and changed the world because a nation was willing to acknowledge God.”


It just keeps getting more insane. Or funnier, depending upon your take. I guess he wasn't aware that the godless Russians made it to the Moon before we did.
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Ben Carson: Humans walked on the moon because America was founded on God (Original Post) smirkymonkey Nov 2015 OP
"Now I want you to think about something" underpants Nov 2015 #1
I would be tempted to say I want what he's smoking... but seriously... Xyzse Nov 2015 #2
Omg. I keep thinking it's weed. bravenak Nov 2015 #4
Can't be... Has to be much stronger than that. Xyzse Nov 2015 #14
I have been getting some one hitter that has me all messed up! bravenak Nov 2015 #16
I talk, but I don't know what I'm talking about. Xyzse Nov 2015 #18
Yay!!! I'm an EXPERT. bravenak Nov 2015 #19
That's always awesome. Xyzse Nov 2015 #20
I've smoked some incredibly high-test weed in my day hifiguy Nov 2015 #58
You know he had prostate cancer tho. Prolly gets meds for that. bravenak Nov 2015 #59
If he "cured it" himself, as he claims, I think that's an unresolved question. hifiguy Nov 2015 #62
He DOES always look like that. bravenak Nov 2015 #63
that would explain his half-closed eyes & reports that wordpix Nov 2015 #137
as a doc he has access to all the meds, for sure wordpix Nov 2015 #136
All he really cares about is religion. bravenak Nov 2015 #3
And Nazis, his loves to talk about them Nazis! Rex Nov 2015 #10
He is such a weird person. God and Nazis. Damn. bravenak Nov 2015 #11
I agree he might be the strangest person I've ever seen run for POTUS. His ideas are bizarre. Rex Nov 2015 #13
If he wins, I move to pluto. bravenak Nov 2015 #17
Save me a seat, please. Rex Nov 2015 #21
We might have to start selling spots on our colony. Bet we get lots of people to come with us. bravenak Nov 2015 #22
LOL! Nobody will want to stay on this planet! Rex Nov 2015 #24
Hee hee!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #25
Yes! We must establish our hegemony/economy first thing! Rex Nov 2015 #26
A caste system!!! With us on top!! I'm gonna be Queen like Daenarys. bravenak Nov 2015 #30
I will make sure to be the ONLY Evangelical charlatan in existence. Rex Nov 2015 #36
Please!!! Can't! Too funny. Praise Pluto!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #38
Sorry too late...my brain now just wired itself! Rex Nov 2015 #41
Hey! My art teacher had me convinced for TWO HOURS that the pyramids were a power plant. bravenak Nov 2015 #42
We have evidence (science!), clearly, who built the pyramids? Rex Nov 2015 #43
If I send this to her she will work it into our class, I shit you not. bravenak Nov 2015 #44
I believe you. Rex Nov 2015 #46
OK, that even tops hifiguy Nov 2015 #67
True but nothing tops assassin raptor riding death shark. Rex Nov 2015 #76
Needs a frikkin' laser attached to its head. hifiguy Nov 2015 #77
Ok, that is one of the funniest things I have seen in a long time! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #91
This is more Ben Carson's style: Scurrilous Nov 2015 #120
But, It's Not A Planet Anymore! ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #31
Venus is sooo hot!!! I'm alaskan now. Maybe Mars? bravenak Nov 2015 #32
I Hear Mars Is Nice ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #54
It has Mars University and the Wong Ranch. hifiguy Nov 2015 #72
Yay!! Carpool!! bravenak Nov 2015 #89
I hear that the rapture is coming any day to take them away. And then finally sanity. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #78
I hope so. The line is too long at The Lucky Wishbone. I want pan fried chicken. bravenak Nov 2015 #88
Blaspheme! You will have to be Left Behind... Rex Nov 2015 #37
I'll Just Wait For Cochrane To Build The Phoenix ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #56
Pluto? hifiguy Nov 2015 #64
NOOOOOOOOO!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #66
You can only do that because America is a Christian nation nxylas Nov 2015 #115
Of course! bravenak Nov 2015 #116
You could do worse . .. PosterChild Nov 2015 #128
Stranger than Herman Cain? Initech Nov 2015 #47
He smokes. Block is Block. Blockhead? Rex Nov 2015 #48
No that ad makes absolutely no sense. Initech Nov 2015 #141
If you're a smoker, Cain's your man? Cain's choice for surgeon-general was Ben Carson wordpix Nov 2015 #138
And slavery. He is slavery-obsessed. KamaAina Nov 2015 #81
see hes almost got it lol.. Volaris Nov 2015 #118
Just like his Joseph and the Pyramids being granary myth...he gets about half of the legend right. Rex Nov 2015 #119
..... trusty elf Nov 2015 #124
Yes! We now have a way to measure the total effects of THC! Rex Nov 2015 #130
My god! You mean there is more than one of them! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #94
Fraid so... jmowreader Nov 2015 #117
Oh pleeeeese let this guy be the Republican Nominee... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #5
If he gets in... MrWendel Nov 2015 #6
"Orderly, open the door. We need him to sign something." randome Nov 2015 #35
So he doesn't know shit about history, why am I not surprised? Rex Nov 2015 #7
Pretty sure f***ing is the same, too XemaSab Nov 2015 #96
Oh yes, fucking too. Rex Nov 2015 #103
A very strange person to say the least! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #8
Not strange, hifiguy Nov 2015 #68
Yep! RKP5637 Nov 2015 #73
That certain Christian kind of "special". smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #93
"this nation, which believed in God" packman Nov 2015 #9
God invented penicillin Mendocino Nov 2015 #12
And we invented the radio beacsue of God... joeybee12 Nov 2015 #15
So once he isn't president how soon does the history channel hire him to voice over shows? Johonny Nov 2015 #23
And we think we're the laughingstock of the world now . . . Vinca Nov 2015 #27
I know, he makes W look like a statesman! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #33
And Jethro Bodine hifiguy Nov 2015 #69
Russians beat us into space, not to the moon HassleCat Nov 2015 #28
Oops, sorry. My mistake. Thanks for the correction! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #34
If it makes you feel better, you weren't totally wrong. Frank Cannon Nov 2015 #97
Good to know! Thanks for the info! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #121
Thank you. Ilsa Nov 2015 #90
And this guy is a doctor? romanic Nov 2015 #29
yes, because only God-fearing American scientists could build rockets onenote Nov 2015 #39
LOL Scurrilous Nov 2015 #49
Best line hifiguy Nov 2015 #71
Back in the sixties, Tom Lehrer... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #102
more proof that he is unqualified to be president. i don't find it / him funny at all. spanone Nov 2015 #40
sadly this is why he has been polling well in the republican primary JI7 Nov 2015 #45
Of course it is....any chance to proclaim american exceptionalism, sit on top and punch down wiggs Nov 2015 #50
Actually Ben it was because we had Wernher von Braun and the Soviets didn't. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #51
Acid: not always helpful. shenmue Nov 2015 #52
Why is this lunatic getting secret service protection? He's a fuckin' hologram, not a human. valerief Nov 2015 #53
Herr Protessor Einstein? hifiguy Nov 2015 #55
I just love this picture of Mission Control singing "Gimme gimme gimme that ole time religion" struggle4progress Nov 2015 #57
this nation was founded by people who *fled* christian nations unblock Nov 2015 #60
He forgot all Greek, Roman, Ancient, European history treestar Nov 2015 #61
He also left out everything contributed by haikugal Nov 2015 #80
Yes there too! treestar Nov 2015 #87
lol rockfordfile Nov 2015 #65
Nazi scientists Adsos Letter Nov 2015 #70
Yes, see post #39. hifiguy Nov 2015 #74
Why yes they did! Thx hifiguy....you rock! nt haikugal Nov 2015 #82
Seriously, every time I read the newspaper or log on to the internet, BigDemVoter Nov 2015 #75
i have a teddy roosevelt era book, it say america was based on the magna carta. pansypoo53219 Nov 2015 #79
He's never heard of it..... haikugal Nov 2015 #83
Why, yes it was. hifiguy Nov 2015 #84
He does know the nazi's were pagan's right? And that von Braun was a nazi right? kydo Nov 2015 #85
Official response from Neil DeGrasse Tyson Yavin4 Nov 2015 #86
Then how does he explain the Russians being first in space? hobbit709 Nov 2015 #92
God says not to bring all of ... this ... up to Sulva, thank you kindly MisterP Nov 2015 #95
Computers were invented by a woman, a gay atheist and another atheist. DetlefK Nov 2015 #98
In boot camp, my drill instructor used to say Recursion Nov 2015 #99
America was founded by Deists! B Calm Nov 2015 #100
El Salvador was NAMED after Jesus jberryhill Nov 2015 #101
I find it truly amazing how talented he is... Javaman Nov 2015 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author maddiemom Nov 2015 #105
? swwallace81 Nov 2015 #106
His speaking style does remind me of Chance. tclambert Nov 2015 #111
Just like Mexico and South America! JohnnyRingo Nov 2015 #107
New campaign slogan! VWolf Nov 2015 #108
"[E]very one of our bills says ‘In God We Trust." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2015 #109
So we wasted all that money and tapped all those scientific minds for nothing because it was GoneFishin Nov 2015 #110
There are other nations where some people believed in God. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #112
You're joking with your last sentence, right?? WinkyDink Nov 2015 #113
In 301, Arsacid Armenia was the first sovereign nation to accept Christianity as a state religion. eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #114
But did God TELL them they were his special children, like us? :) Hortensis Nov 2015 #126
"Under God" was added to the pledge when Carson was 3 years old, and.. NonMetro Nov 2015 #122
Carson is wrong HeiressofBickworth Nov 2015 #123
a kick for absurdity n/t quaker bill Nov 2015 #125
Actually, more. nt PosterChild Nov 2015 #129
Yea nobody believed in the God of Abraham Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #127
Man, this guy NEEDS to be in a rubber room!!!! n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #131
In spacecraft named after Roman gods! backscatter712 Nov 2015 #132
WTF kwolf68 Nov 2015 #133
WAIT...... cynzke Nov 2015 #134
"for 100 years, 200 years, a 1,000 years, 3,000 years, people did things the same way" left-of-center2012 Nov 2015 #135
they explored the planet by crossing oceans in dugout canoes wordpix Nov 2015 #139
He thinks he is... Moostache Nov 2015 #152
SAPs Martak Sarno Nov 2015 #140
just think of all the grain They_Live Nov 2015 #142
Is Carson on something? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #143
Yes. Religious lunacy. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #150
Anyone who thinks this country was founded on "God" doesn't know anything. NonMetro Nov 2015 #144
Isn't it way past time ThingsGottaChange Nov 2015 #145
He's been grifting right wing religious whites for quite some time… MrScorpio Nov 2015 #146
hey quit making Ben look good PatrynXX Nov 2015 #147
hey quit making Ben look good PatrynXX Nov 2015 #148
Politics are all about the issues Sheepshank Nov 2015 #149
FIrst time I am seeing this LOLOLOL randys1 Nov 2015 #151
Spain under Philip was way more "Christian" thucythucy Nov 2015 #153

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
2. I would be tempted to say I want what he's smoking... but seriously...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

For a brain surgeon, he says the weirdest ish.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
16. I have been getting some one hitter that has me all messed up!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

He might get that medical grade. Plus his pain meds from the cancer. He needs it, imo. Better low key then stabbin folks.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
18. I talk, but I don't know what I'm talking about.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:46 PM
Nov 2015

I am all second hand knowledge. Sooooo... I'll trust you on this one.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
58. I've smoked some incredibly high-test weed in my day
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:44 PM
Nov 2015

and that was never close to getting me that detached from reality. Not even the "one-puff-to-the-Moon" Thai sticks of the late 1970s and early 1980s.

I wonder if he's not self-medicating with some serious shit like Thorazine or Haldol. He obviously has the zombie vocal cadence of someone on high doses of those very strong anti-psychotic meds, but you'd think those would get rid of his constant hallucinations and, I'd bet. the voices he has in his head all day every day.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
59. You know he had prostate cancer tho. Prolly gets meds for that.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

Combine some vicodin and some weed and prolly scotch, he looks like a scotch guy, hoo boy!! Ben is on one!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
62. If he "cured it" himself, as he claims, I think that's an unresolved question.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

But to get that zombied-out I have to be knee-walking drunk, yet he manages to stand up for hours at a time at the klown shows.

Vicodin/weed/scotch actually sounds pretty plausible. One stiff scotch on top of some hillbilly heroin and top-grade herb could get you pretty damned wack without smelling like a wino.

What's baffling is that he seems to be in this unhinged state 24 hours per day.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
63. He DOES always look like that.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

I bet it's because his cure is scotch, vicodin and weed!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
137. that would explain his half-closed eyes & reports that
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:29 AM
Nov 2015

when he meets people, he is Ben Jovial and they all love him.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. All he really cares about is religion.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

He sounds like people from my old Church.
All religious people sound like that to me. ALL OF THEM. All. Everylastone. The second they get religious, my eyes glaze. Now, a thank god, or a bless you, or pray for je is cool, i might even sit and pretend to pray if somebody needs it, but once they start nattering, .

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. I agree he might be the strangest person I've ever seen run for POTUS. His ideas are bizarre.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:43 PM
Nov 2015

And that is saying something, the man makes unusual people seem very mundane by comparison.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Save me a seat, please.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015

This country is done if that guy or Cruz gets into the WH. Game over.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
22. We might have to start selling spots on our colony. Bet we get lots of people to come with us.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:48 PM
Nov 2015
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. LOL! Nobody will want to stay on this planet!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

I say we set up OUR gated community first...last thing we want is for those darn South Plutonians coming around...with their rock and roll and skin tight jeans!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
26. Yes! We must establish our hegemony/economy first thing!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:56 PM
Nov 2015

Have to make sure people don't forget what they left behind!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. I will make sure to be the ONLY Evangelical charlatan in existence.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:29 PM
Nov 2015

There can be only one...with all the money! ERRR...I mean...Plutonians listen to my tale about a place you can go to called Earth! Ruled by this evil devil named Ben.

"Tithe at the church of Pluto or be cast down...er...sideways to Earth!"

WE can have the monarchy, church and office all rolled into one!

Can I get a Praise Pluto!?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. Sorry too late...my brain now just wired itself!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

Everytime I see Carson now I will think...Praise Pluto! Thanks bravenak, I am laughing-crying so hard my shirt looks like I stepped out into the rain.

AND this is still so far away from the main GOP show! Can we survive more hillarity, who will be next?

Jeb? Cruz? Can Ben Carson be topped? That shit with the pyramids was something else and now God's help to the Moon.

Just a small push.

PRAISE PLUTO!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
42. Hey! My art teacher had me convinced for TWO HOURS that the pyramids were a power plant.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:39 PM
Nov 2015

I wa believing in levitation, aliens, all manner of wonders. Then I left class. It was gone. Except the aliens part.

Imagine him on the debate stage.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. We have evidence (science!), clearly, who built the pyramids?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

Clearly, with phototogrophy...it can be seen the dinosaurs did it!


T-Rex was bigger back in those days do to a larger amount of oxygen in the air.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. I believe you.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:56 PM
Nov 2015

There are many that believe The History Channel makes them honorary historians. So does Google U.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
120. This is more Ben Carson's style:
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:29 PM
Nov 2015
&feature=player_embedded

YouTube is @#$% things up. Half my favorites are now blocked (uploaders won't sign YouTube Red contract) and now this link is wonky.

ProfessorGAC

(76,702 posts)
31. But, It's Not A Planet Anymore!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:11 PM
Nov 2015

Venus is a shorter ride, too! You should reconsider, Brave!

ProfessorGAC

(76,702 posts)
54. I Hear Mars Is Nice
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

Property taxes are really low, too! Maybe my wife and i will come with ya!

LiberalArkie

(19,804 posts)
78. I hear that the rapture is coming any day to take them away. And then finally sanity.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:01 PM
Nov 2015

And a lot of empty parking places.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
88. I hope so. The line is too long at The Lucky Wishbone. I want pan fried chicken.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:28 PM
Nov 2015

They be in my way.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
64. Pluto?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:59 PM
Nov 2015

Hell's bells, Crazy Uncle Benny will already be there - as head of the welcoming committee. He may be already.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
47. Stranger than Herman Cain?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:57 PM
Nov 2015

Remember this gem of a campaign ad?

http://



Hmmmm... tough call.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
48. He smokes. Block is Block. Blockhead?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:05 PM
Nov 2015

Does that ad even make sense? Never saw that one...WTFF? I'm left...with no words.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
141. No that ad makes absolutely no sense.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:39 PM
Nov 2015

I wonder when they finished it, the people who made it were like "nailed it!"?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
138. If you're a smoker, Cain's your man? Cain's choice for surgeon-general was Ben Carson
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:36 AM
Nov 2015
If Cain had gotten in, we'd be back to sharing cig smoke with smokers on every train, plan and bus in the country

Volaris

(11,704 posts)
118. see hes almost got it lol..
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:28 PM
Nov 2015

most of our (initial) post ww2 rocket and propulsion systems were Bogarted from the Germans anyway. Not saying that nazi v2 rockets got us to the moon, (they clearly didnt) but Verner Von Braun didnt become the original 'steely-eyed missle man' by not cashing Hitlers paychecks and marching in peace parades..he got that way by activley trying to destroy London, and it taught him a lot.

But if he likes to think that NASA getting to the moon was more Jeezuz than Jermanz...well....

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
119. Just like his Joseph and the Pyramids being granary myth...he gets about half of the legend right.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:36 PM
Nov 2015

The story he told of Joseph was half correct...he even fudges on urban myths! Needs to stop smoking so much chronic imo.


Before I answer that question, does anyone want to order pizza?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
5. Oh pleeeeese let this guy be the Republican Nominee...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

If God does love us more than other countries....he will give us this guy as our Republican opponent!


HRC will mop the floor with this poser!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. "Orderly, open the door. We need him to sign something."
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:24 PM
Nov 2015

"He hasn't had his din-dins yet."

"I know but...damnit, it's an emergency!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. So he doesn't know shit about history, why am I not surprised?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:35 PM
Nov 2015

People did NOT do the same thing 100 years ago as they did 3000 years ago. Unless he is talking about eating and shitting.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
9. "this nation, which believed in God"
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:36 PM
Nov 2015

Damn, I thought the Jews had a lock on that. Or maybe those red-hot Christian Spaniards, or Roman Catholics - Naw, just us Godly Americans who looked up to the moon after slaughtering the American-Indians, or Godly Americans on those midnight rides in their white robes and said, " Oh Lordy, I gots to go to that moon for God's sake."

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
28. Russians beat us into space, not to the moon
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:00 PM
Nov 2015

Yuri Gargarin, first man in space. "Scuze me while I check that spelling... April 12, 1961 and it's Gagarin, without the extra R I stuck in there.

As for Carson's logic, I will accept it, but I guess it means we overstayed our welcome on God' moon, and He prevented Apollo 13 from getting there. Almost killed the astronauts, in fact.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
97. If it makes you feel better, you weren't totally wrong.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:23 AM
Nov 2015

The Russians landed a probe on it before we even sent someone into space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_2

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
71. Best line
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:28 PM
Nov 2015

"I makes zhure zey go up
Don't care vhere zey come down,
Zat's not mein department!"
Says Wernher von Braun.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
102. Back in the sixties, Tom Lehrer...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:34 AM
Nov 2015

... was the funniest man on the planet. I had every one of his albums. He was also a professor of mathematics at Harvard. The musty-smelling stuffed shirts that ran that august institution thought it unseemly for a Harvard professor to be funny, so they told him that he had to stop being one of those things.

Alas, the world became a sadder, grayer place when Lehrer chose to shuffle back into the shadows of academia.

I still miss you, Tom.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
45. sadly this is why he has been polling well in the republican primary
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:50 PM
Nov 2015

And I'm thinking a lot of it is an act. Like the story of how he use to be violent. But that christian redemption thing is appealing to a segment of the republican party

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
50. Of course it is....any chance to proclaim american exceptionalism, sit on top and punch down
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

is primary gold.

yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
51. Actually Ben it was because we had Wernher von Braun and the Soviets didn't.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:20 PM
Nov 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

Von Braun went out of his way to surrender to the Americans rather than the Soviets near Peenemünde at the end of WWII. Von Braun was instrumental in the development of the Saturn V rocket which was used in the Apollo program. Without the Saturn V we may have still eventually gotten to the moon but probably not in nearly the same time period. So Ben if you want to say that Von Braun is God, okay, but otherwise you are quite full of shit.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
53. Why is this lunatic getting secret service protection? He's a fuckin' hologram, not a human.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

There's nothing to protect.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
55. Herr Protessor Einstein?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:29 PM
Nov 2015




How is it possible to even BE this stupid and still remember to breathe?

struggle4progress

(126,150 posts)
57. I just love this picture of Mission Control singing "Gimme gimme gimme that ole time religion"
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:38 PM
Nov 2015

during the Apollo 11 landing!



The photographer unfortunately didn't get the goat sacrifice into the shot

unblock

(56,198 posts)
60. this nation was founded by people who *fled* christian nations
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:50 PM
Nov 2015

i'm fed up with idiots trying to turn our nation into everything our founders loathed about the nations they fled.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
61. He forgot all Greek, Roman, Ancient, European history
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

Or never realized it existed. Nothing happened until America?

People did things the same way and no progress was made. OK.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
80. He also left out everything contributed by
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:12 PM
Nov 2015

China, India and the Muslims....quite a feat.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
87. Yes there too!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

All of Asia, Africa and the Indian subcontinent!

If Ben doesn't know about it, it never happened!

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
70. Nazi scientists
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:26 PM
Nov 2015

Didn't post-war Nazi scientists have a lot to do with the success of our space program?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
74. Yes, see post #39.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:34 PM
Nov 2015

But they were the good/reformed ones. The CIA kept all the unreformed Nazi true believers for itself. Project Paperclip.

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
75. Seriously, every time I read the newspaper or log on to the internet,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:48 PM
Nov 2015

I see an even more asinine statement attributed to that dumb ass. Oh but wait. . "He's smart. He's a neurosurgeon."

Hmmm. Maybe he can do brain surgery, but if he's not stupid, he's 100% CRAZY.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
84. Why, yes it was.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

The Magna Carta plus rather a lot of John Locke and David Hume, a bit of Rousseau and the general background principles of Enlightenment rationality and scientism. Jefferson and Madison had read them all, countless times.

But don't tell the repigs and the jebus-wheezers that.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
85. He does know the nazi's were pagan's right? And that von Braun was a nazi right?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:27 PM
Nov 2015

And that the US hid these scientists Nazi past's so they could build rockets for the US and not the Soviets, right? And that, that whole "Under God" and "In God We Trust," are new additions right? And that the founding moral values are not solely copyrighted by Christians, they are morale and values humanity has had for well over 2,000 years, right?

Oh wait never mind .... I forgot we were talking about Dr Ben the nutty nero-surgeon who gave himself a frontal lobotomy once.... Crazy Ben ....

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
98. Computers were invented by a woman, a gay atheist and another atheist.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:41 AM
Nov 2015

Ada Lovelace, Alan Turing and Konrad Zuse.

And I dare to claim that computers played a major role in getting to the Moon.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
99. In boot camp, my drill instructor used to say
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:02 AM
Nov 2015

"Recruit Recursion! Nasty belligerent pigs like you are why the Russians beat us to the moon!"

as well as

"We won at Pearl Harbor because we were prepared!"

(For the curious, he's not remotely stupid; it's an attempt to get you to break your composure.)

Response to smirkymonkey (Original post)

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
111. His speaking style does remind me of Chance.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:34 PM
Nov 2015

I can picture Ben Carson saying this: "In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again." Except Carson would then conclude that climate change is a myth.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
107. Just like Mexico and South America!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:36 AM
Nov 2015

Those countries included in Central and South America have a stronger Christian contingency than the US and also did great things, like drug cartels and vacation resorts. It just proves that with God all things are possible.

Hahaha

109. "[E]very one of our bills says ‘In God We Trust."
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:23 AM
Nov 2015

Not always, asshole!

1950


2010


"In God We Trust" was added to coins minted after 1864 largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. It was added to paper money in 1957. source

Since then, religious and secular groups have argued over the appropriateness and constitutionality of a motto that mentions “God,” considering the founding fathers' dedication to maintaining the separation of church and state.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
110. So we wasted all that money and tapped all those scientific minds for nothing because it was
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:24 AM
Nov 2015

god's will and would have happened anyway? Damn.

eppur_se_muova

(41,939 posts)
114. In 301, Arsacid Armenia was the first sovereign nation to accept Christianity as a state religion.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:48 PM
Nov 2015

Under Ezana (fl. 320–360) Aksum {now in modern Ethiopa} adopted Christianity.

So where's their stinking rewards ?

NonMetro

(631 posts)
122. "Under God" was added to the pledge when Carson was 3 years old, and..
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:32 PM
Nov 2015

"In God We Trust" became the motto when he was 5. So now, we have people like him running off their mouths about how the nation was founded on a belief in God, when, in fact, The United States was the first country in the world to be founded on a secular basis with a separation of church and state. And we have McCarthy era Republicans and Dwight D. Eisenhower to thank for this undermining of our secular democracy - and guys like Ben Carson to thank for spreading this malicious lie!

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
123. Carson is wrong
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:47 PM
Nov 2015

Most of the technological advances have been made since women got out of tightly-laced corsets.

Hey, it makes as much sense as what he said!!!

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
127. Yea nobody believed in the God of Abraham
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:29 AM
Nov 2015

or the Christian God more fervently before ''Merica to be worthy of the moon..

Not Moses and the Israelites. Not the disciples. Not the early Christians who were fed to the lions.

American exceptionalism.



backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
132. In spacecraft named after Roman gods!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:55 PM
Nov 2015

Yep, that's paying homage to Jesus to make sure he lands the astronauts on the Moon safely!

kwolf68

(8,452 posts)
133. WTF
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:17 PM
Nov 2015

So if "God" in the founding documents allowed us to goto the moon then why the fuck didn't we go there in 1777?

Dumbass

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
134. WAIT......
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 06:08 PM
Nov 2015

I thought we were on the verge of sinking to a communist dictatorship but Faux news saved us?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
135. "for 100 years, 200 years, a 1,000 years, 3,000 years, people did things the same way"
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:25 AM
Nov 2015

The guy should read a history book.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
139. they explored the planet by crossing oceans in dugout canoes
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:39 AM
Nov 2015

and rowing their little fishing boats.

And that's how our godly nation was born

Moostache

(11,178 posts)
152. He thinks he is...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:26 PM
Nov 2015

problem is that the Bible is not real history, its not even real anecdotes.

These biblical literalist types like him and Cruz and their mouth breathing fans all need to be treated for mental illness. They no more belong in positions of power than my lawn care specialists.

Martak Sarno

(77 posts)
140. SAPs
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:33 AM
Nov 2015

It looks as though the Republican plan for dumbing down Americans in Science, Technology and Revising History finally has its real, live poster boy.

And it looks as though it's working, too, judging by those who believe him.

SAPs (Stupid AMerican Public)

NonMetro

(631 posts)
144. Anyone who thinks this country was founded on "God" doesn't know anything.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:21 PM
Nov 2015

And this conceited jerk thinks he can be president of this nation of over 300 million people? He needs to crawl back into whatever hole in the wall he came out of! He's a joke!

ThingsGottaChange

(1,200 posts)
145. Isn't it way past time
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:44 AM
Nov 2015

for someone to force him to have a psychiatric evaluation???? It's like listening to someone who has a severe mental disorder or brain damage of some sort. Enough already!

And before you bash me for (gasp!) mentioning a mental disorder, I have one myself. Which is why I don't talk much.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
146. He's been grifting right wing religious whites for quite some time…
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:57 AM
Nov 2015

I'm quite sure that he can't wait to get back to not being elected, so he can get back to his bread and butter.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
147. hey quit making Ben look good
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:30 PM
Nov 2015

I see this one and think so.. On that one that is the Christian Belief. the Irony being thanks to a Catholic Democrat (which I was just reminded) that Catholics could never be elected... we went up. But we haven't gone back up because his kind thinks it costs too much money. Don't go after someone because of his beliefs please. Albeit I do but only so far as to say 10 years of it being pounded into my head that there are 4 main cults and so far people who pounded that into my head are big fans of Cults of late First Mormons in 2012 and now 7th days .. which right now via mergers there are 2 Lutherans running. (Presbyterians, which with the UCC merged in 1997 with the ELCA) thus Obama and Donald Trump are of the same religion Lutheran.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
148. hey quit making Ben look good
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:31 PM
Nov 2015

I see this one and think so.. On that one that is the Christian Belief. the Irony being thanks to a Catholic Democrat (which I was just reminded) that Catholics could never be elected... we went up. But we haven't gone back up because his kind thinks it costs too much money. Don't go after someone because of his beliefs please. Albeit I do but only so far as to say 10 years of it being pounded into my head that there are 4 main cults and so far people who pounded that into my head are big fans of Cults of late First Mormons in 2012 and now 7th days .. which right now via mergers there are 2 Lutherans running. (Presbyterians, which with the UCC merged in 1997 with the ELCA) thus Obama and Donald Trump are of the same religion Lutheran.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
149. Politics are all about the issues
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

and all of the facets that makes these politicians view the important issues from a certain paradigm.

This stuff from Carson is scary shit...therefore I agree with the person up thread that if God was really in the Carson camp, he would help Carson win the GOP nomination. I'd be ok with that.

thucythucy

(9,103 posts)
153. Spain under Philip was way more "Christian"
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:54 AM
Nov 2015

and I don't recall any Spanish galleons landing in the Bay of Tranquility.

Just sayin'.

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