Ben Carson Fabricated Violent Juvenile Past, CNN Investigation Suggests

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Ben Carson Fabricated Violent Juvenile Past, CNN Investigation Suggests

Jordan Chariton at Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/ben-carson-fabricated-violent-juvenile-past-cnn-investigation-145104502.html?ref=gs

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On the campaign trail, the former neurosurgeon has recounted being an angry juvenile in his native Detroit — stabbing, throwing rocks at people, hurling bricks and beating others with baseball bats.

But through interviews with nine former classmates and friends, CNN was unable to verify any incidents supporting those claims.

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One former classmate told the network: “I don’t know nothing about that… it would have been all over the whole school.” Another classmate
told CNN, “I personally do not have knowledge of those incidents… I wondered, ‘When did that happen?'”

A former friend of Carson said if he was as big a hothead as he described, it wouldn’t be a secret.”He got through his day trying not to be noticed… I remember him having a pocket saver. He had thick glasses. He was skinny and unremarkable.”



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[randys1]

1. Ben is a real goofy man. Very very goofy.

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[B Calm]

14. I look for him to say that he use to be Amish before becoming a Quaker.

[olegramps]

16. Walter Mitty Carson

"The Secret Life of Walther Mitty Ben Carson" That this poor delusional creature is the front runner for the Republican nomination must be mind boggling to our European allies. If what he has claimed was actually true he is a dangerous psychotic that has no place near the atomic doomsday switch or that he is seriously mentally unstable. This is the strange and dangerous state of American politics when a majority of Republicans think that this person is a suitable candidate to be elected president of the country.

This is the fruit that unrestrained Hate Radio has given us. The nation that is in such an extreme state of polarization that it has become virtually ungovernable. It has created a situation in which hatred reins unrestricted. I can only conclude that the extremists in the Republican Party and their Hate Radio allies are the enemies of the Republic. I have no idea how the situation can be reversed.

[daybranch]

52. why do we let MSM owned by the oligarchy take our focus

rather look at the issues? Lets vow to screen the MSM out and review the democratic candidates' positions on major issues and personal qualities such as consistency and integrity. Go Bernie!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. What is wrong with the folks on the right, that the way to gain popularity with them

is to claim you were a juvenile psychopath?

[OnyxCollie]

6. Because if you can be on the side of the bully,

you won't get beat up (in theory.)

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. The Grover Dill party.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. Yeah But Look What Happened To Grover

Once Ralphie had enough, the bully got the bloody nose.

[cannabis_flower]

35. I thought..

The one that got a bloody nose was Scout Farkus, the one in the coonskin hat.

[lumberjack_jeff]

7. Neither being a liar nor a crazy psychopathic felon are major problems for Republican candidates. nt

[smirkymonkey]

29. That is what I find most disturbing.

The rational left thinks, "My god, what the hell is wrong with you!" and the bat-shit insane right thinks "Cool, just the kind of psychopath we need in the most powerful position in the world". What on earth is wrong with these people? Why are they so inhumane? Stabbing people is not a good thing to mentally stable people.

[Rex]

39. Because most republicans were juvenile psychopaths. He is trying to gain voters.

Yes they are that bad. Carson, ironically was not and now has to lie to get creds.

Shows how fucked up the GOP is as a party.

[sharp_stick]

3. He probably convinced himself

that his bullshit history is fact. Ben Carson is totally unhinged from reality.

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. I have to agree..

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I have a number of Seventh Day Adventist family members....and though they are wierd.....he seems abnormally so. That's not a brain on SDA alone....something is chemically wrong in there....whether that is natural or unnaturally...and does it seem odd to you thst he just stopped being a doctor at this time of his life? Why would an apparently gifted neurosurgeon just up and quit and become THAT guy? Afterall he is relatively young....SDA have the longest life expectancies in the U.S .....just makes me wonder.

Anyone know?

[VWolf]

17. That being the case,

the appropriate advice would be: "Physician, heal thyself!"

[bravenak]

51. YES

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. So he lied about being a crazy violent felon? n/t

[JHB]

13. Hey, it makes for a dramatic "How I came to Jesus" story...

And before now, how likely was it that anyone might check up on it?

[yardwork]

5. This is both funny and sad.

A lot of us were nerds in high school. It's sad that Carson had to fabricate another persona.

[JI7]

10. it's more about having the christian redemption story to appeal

To evangelicals. And it Looks to be working so far.

[Skittles]

41. he wants people to believe he overcame being one of THOSE people

because he is so much STRONGER than them

the man is an EXTREME narcissist

[valerief]

46. Just look at his house, I mean, his shrine to himself.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/nov/07/ben-carson-house/

And his bibley inscription chiseled on his wall has proverbs spelled wrong. Doesn't even use an Oxford/serial comma either. Lousy capitalization, too and a missing space on top of it all.

By Humility and The Fear of the Lord Are Riches,Honor and Life
poverbs 22:4

[JI7]

8. he made up the story about guy with gun

[hifiguy]

12. Only one thing about this character is real.

He is genuinely crazy. Batshit, around-the-bend, barking-at-the-moon nuts.

[MyOwnPeace]

18. But wait!

He LOVES "Sir Ronald" - and we know that HE made up - oops! - "mis-remembered" some stories about his "time in the military" :

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/ronald_reagans_wartime_lies_the_president_had_quite_a_brian_williams_problem/

So, perhaps that's Carson's plan - do what Reagan did - it worked for him!

[RichGirl]

19. I think Carson is just playing with us.

When he wins the nomination and goes to podium for his victory speech...it'll consist of : "GOTCHA!"

[Glimmer of Hope]

20. What about his story that he almost attacked his mother with a hammer?

This is reenacted in his biopic staring Cuba Gooding Jr.

[erpowers]

21. Fabricated

When you think about it these stories are clearly fabricated. There seems to be no way that a kid could attempt to hit is mother with a hammer, attempt to stab a kid, throw rocks and bricks at people, beat people with baseball bats, hit people with locks, and smash people's heads against lockers and not go to jail. Kids have been sent to juvenile detention for far less. Even if someone were to make the argument that Carson was sent to juvenile detention and his record was sealed upon his turning 18 the counter to that is people would remember his bad behavior and his having gone to jail. It seems the principals at his schools would remember him having attacked people. It seems the people he attacked would be willing to come forward and say he attacked them. Even if they have forgiven him they could still confirm the attacks. There is a problem with a story when there are supposedly multiple attacks on different people, but no one comes forward to confirm the attacks.

[thesquanderer]

22. so this was all a ruse to make him seem more appealing?

"stabbing, throwing rocks at people, hurling bricks and beating others with baseball bats"...

endearing traits?

Maybe because they elected someone who blew up frogs?

[Bucky]

23. He's such a calm person. Why would fundies all these years just ASSUME he used to be a thug?

Carson's been a big wig on the conservative Christian talk circuit for many many years. That's how he got to be so good at all the dog-whistle language that attracts the fundamentalist support without freaking out the mainstream Republicans who just don't quite get how a daring, almost heroic, surgeon for all his healing talents is otherwise qualified to run a complex democracy and its economic empire.

But the fundamentalists who are his core support have only met the Clark Kentish brain surgeon. He says he used to be violent, he used to be dangerous and thuggish on the mean streets of Detroit. There's zero indication of this aggressiveness in his character today. His stage persona in debates & political speeches is just a hair above drowsy. What on earth could have gotten so many good Christian heartlanders to believe he was so different from now before he was "born again"?

What elusive characteristic of Dr. Carson is it makes certain people just blindly accept that he could have once been such a violent, almost bestial, thug in his younger days? Hmmm... I wonder...

[chapdrum]

24. After the most egregious bottom feeders

have been eliminated, the party will get Jebbie by default.

[NastyRiffraff]

25. This guy lies for the sake of lying

I mean, who invents a violent past? Even for the sake of showing "redemption" this is as strange as it gets.

But I'm betting he'll go up in the polls, at least temporarily. The Republican base is as strange as he is, so he fits right in.

[stage left]

26. why would anyone do this?

And why would anyone support his candidacy?

[ErikJ]

45. Simple: A black man attacking Obama is nirvana for them. nt

[NonMetro]

27. Carson Says He did Those Things, If So, They Were Crimes, So Of Course, No One Else

Would know. Also, Detroit is a big city - even with a lot more people when he was growing up. Other than going after his mom, and the family wouldn't have broadcast that, these incidents could have happened anywhere. Carson is very odd, so it could be something else, but unless he says he didn't do them, all we really have to go on is his word. The testimony of these others is kind of worthless. How would they know what might have happened in Ben's life?

[tcbrola]

28. Ben Carson Fabricated Violent Juvenile Past, CNN Investigation Suggests

Ben is running a short con while setting you up for the long con. He sold his soul to the devil when he learned people would believe just about anything transmitted from his mouth. He used his credibility as a well respected neurosurgeon to lie to the American people trying to pass himself off as a "thug". He is softer than a marshmallow but he desperately wants people to see him as a tough cat with bonafide "street cred" earned on the mean streets of Detroit...

[Lionel Mandrake]

30. What HASN'T Ben Carson lied about?

He lied about getting a scholarship to West Point and about having been a juvenile delinquent. After that, can we believe anything he says about his past?

Why would anyone think such a pathological liar is fit to be president?

[alcibiades_mystery]

31. Christian redemption stories of quiet nerd to quiet brain surgeon aren't that interesting

And fail to play on racist white beliefs about black youth.

Therefore, you must invent yourself as an angry, violent black youth who overcame through Christ in order to soothe racist white fears about your black body.

None of this is complicated if you understand the deep racism in our culture.

One of the few groups white folks have trouble fitting into their schema is black nerds.

[applegrove]

32. +1

[JI7]

33. yup he grew up where people knew each other and adults all looked out for

The kids.

All of this does not follow the racist stereotype republicans want to believe.

[DawgHouse]

36. +1.

[kwolf68]

42. LOL

This is pretty good...

[Skittles]

43. CORRECT

[SleeplessinSoCal]

34. been arguing all night with local Carson supporters.

They think he is the only honest person in the country and everyone is out to get him.

They really, really like him.

[cstanleytech]

37. I guess this means they are going to have to move his autobiography to the fiction section. nt

[Rex]

38. Repukes are such horrible people, the only way to get creds with them is to have a horrible past.

Kick your mom, the dog or the baby. Stab someone or at least swing at them with a knife. Tell some guy with a gun stuck in your ribs to go shoot the cashier. Lie about meeting general Westmoreland. Lie about being a doctor? In ROTC?

What else has this guy lied about? Is his entire life a lie?

[wordpix]

40. geesh, just being a poor kid who became head of J. Hopkins pediatric neurorsurgery is enough

of a life story to make him electable. But these lies really make me wonder what he's hiding about THAT.

[ErikJ]

44. Publisher told him, "Ben, come back when u got something exciting to tell......

even if ya have to make it up."

[Sunlei]

47. wonder why he Fabricated & is not proud about how well he actually did as a youth in a poverty sit

situation?

Or were the lies just a fox-type media tactic to generate more press for his name?

[hay rick]

49. The fake aggression story is important to his political pitch because...

it makes him look like he was saved from a violent black culture by embracing a studious, nonviolent, meritocratic white culture. People watching Fox News want those stereotypes reinforced.

[GOLGO 13]

48. He has zero machoismo "cred" with repukes.

A black nerd has less than zero sex appeal. Nobody really wants to have to listen to a very un-masculine Urkel/goody two-shoes.

Obama has a dynamite back story as a guy that overcame so much to eventually become President. However, their guy has no personality outside of being a un-masculine, nerd, in a eccentric fundy religion. Notice they talk about the Jezuz a lot but not what his religion actually is. That's not a good image to push to the masses.

The story of him being "violent/bad boy" & being offered a West Point "scholarship" try to portray him as some interesting macho-man, fails under the scrutiny of sunshine.

[Turbineguy]

50. Maybe he's trying to get votes from republican jailbirds.