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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/25/490429/mcdermott-universal-care-romney/Democrat To Offer A Lifeline For Single-Payer Health Care
By Igor Volsky on May 25, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) will soon introduce legislation that would allow states to use federal funds theyre receiving through Medicare, Medicaid, and other health care programs to build a universal single-payer system. Advocates are describing the bill as a lifeline for advocates:
This is a huge deal, said Jamie Court, president of Consumer Watchdog, a Santa Monica advocacy group. This is a lifeline for people who want to create a Medicare system at the state level.
The bill could warm the hearts of liberals who expressed frustration with the Affordable Care Acts more moderate approach of building on the existing health care system and should also satisfy GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The former Massachusetts governor has sought to differentiate his 2006 health reform from Obamacare by rejecting a federal prescription for reform and promising to pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens.
The ACA creates state flexibility by granting waivers to states that meet certain coverage standards and a bipartisan group of lawmakers has offered legislation expanding the provision by allowing states with innovative health care solutions to opt out of certain provisions beginning in 2014. Romney, meanwhile, has pledged to build on the ACAs flexibility and grant states to the ability to opt out of the law entirely.
McDermotts measure would go even further and encourage states to repurpose federal funds to build a universal single-payer health system of their own. If Republicans are truly interested in states rights, they will back it in mass.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)They can't complain if we adopt/co-op their arguments. If that gets a foot in the door and the programs are successful then a state-by-state approach be better than nothing -- I s'pose.
glinda
(14,807 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)At least until red states stop electing jackasses.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)dotymed
(5,610 posts)federal funding for health care is that the red states use that money to make health care very sub-par for their neediest citizens. It is a travesty. In TN., they (the uninsured) depend on the local health dept. The health dept.'s hands are so tied by regulations that it is almost like not having health care. The Dr.'s are not allowed to do much besides giving vaccines and referring patients to for profit Dr.'s and hospitals. You have to be critical, with only certain types of cancer (for instance), before you qualify for temporary medicaid.
No dental care at all.
The Dr.'s are not allowed to prescribe any narcotic pain medicine, no matter what.
If you're poor; suffer and die...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)are the people of these states going to allow before they see what is happening. More than likely under this bill these states will just opt out and continue with the federal program as it is. Medicaid is already governed by states so it is Medicare that will be a problem for them. All states administer Medicaid.
eridani
(51,907 posts)No reason why other states have to follow that example.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)gleannfia
(66 posts)Minnesota has a strong Single Payer plan working its way through the State Senate. I was pissed that Obama didn't go for universal but now I see that an incremental approach like Canada had will be most successful.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)House? Of course if we all do our jobs in November that will not be a problem.
2banon
(7,321 posts)to only be dashed by an almost completely corrupt congress, bought and paid for by Big Pharm, Insurance Companies...
This is not going to get through unfortnately...
But good on McDermott for trying..
99Forever
(14,524 posts)And they wonder why we become cynics.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)health insurance reform legislation.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)A state by state approach will simply not work, it doesn't address the facts of modern life, ie that we're a mobile society. Furthermore, state by state means that about two thirds of the states will opt out of this. Nice if you life in MA, but not so nice if you live in MO.
This is a polite fig leaf that the Dems are tossing out, knowing full well that they fucked up health care reform, and squandered one of the best chances we will have for real progress in a long while.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Vermont led the way on this, and kicked down door #1. This kicks down door #2. When people in the states that reject it sees how it works in other states, they will demand it.
We're not as mobile a society as we used to be. A lot of people are trapped where they are right now, and have been since the real estate market crashed.
Sometimes (most of the time) incrementally is the only way to get what you want. Often incrementally is the *best* way to get what you need, because it enables you to see what does and doesn't work elsewhere and craft a better solution.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)Am I right, Californians?
Merlot
(9,696 posts)at some point it's going to be put to vote again, we'll see what Jerry Brown does with it.
arnie has enough f*cking money to personally insure the whole state, but he is ok with letting people die from lack of health care.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)thought Brown might be in favor.
I lived in San Francisco many years ago,
and am considering going back; the health care
issue, of course, would be a factor.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Industry has the money to "convince" whomever will listen that it will not work.
During the last go around, the bill for Single Payer almost squeaked by, but in the end two Dems got their pretty little arms twisted (or maybe their pocket books were filled?) The state legislators in California are pathetic, as far as so many of them being bought and paid for by the Monied Crowd.
The California Nurses Association has done a great deal of work on the issue. I do hope that at some point soon, that work pays off.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)I remember him as being a huge progressive, but now I get mixed impressions.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)And the bill that she nurtured got through the Assembly, back in both 2006 and 2008, but then was shot down by Ahnold vetoing it.
And then this last time, these two Democrats sold out (inside the Assembly.)
I don't know if Brown is for Single Payer or not. I do like a lot of the appointments he has made. And right now, the state is hurting economically - I don't know if budget-wise it could happen or not.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)How lousy is it when we have these "sell-out" Dems..The Repukes almost are MUCH more
unified. Blue Dogs should be voted out.
I understand what you're saying, though, regarding the budget...Is Brown still a progressive,
would you say.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)yes, get some pilot projects going and then people in other states want it.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)The federal government (in Canada) offered provinces matching money if they provided health care --in a nutshell.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)hellhole like MO can move to a civilized state like MA
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It's hard for anyone, particularly women, who are over, say 45, to get hired anywhere, much less in a state where they don't know anyone.
I'd like to move out of Tennessee, but I can barely get call-backs for better jobs here, much less in a state where I don't have references anyone knows.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)People who live in states with non available can lobby their state legis.
TBF
(32,012 posts)that's potentially an awful lot of people (considering NYC and LA) who could get health care.
It's a baby step to be sure, but I wouldn't dismiss it because it will help some. And then we keep working for more.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)or go blue?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)and they're too stupid to figure out the truth
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)for the leaders of some states, especially those in the rust belt, to realize a single payer health care system could be very attractive in bringing new business to their state.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)controlled both houses of congress and passed such a bill in the House, the Republicans would filibuster it in the Senate.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)if the Democrats would pass such a bill even if there were no Republicans in congress.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)In all states with a GOP legislature, they cut social services to the bone. That's their policy. Their radio pundits call the Democrats tax and spend bleeding hearts for trying to help the poor.
Whatever goes on in a state, reflects the people of that state, is the policy their representatives in D.C. enact if they have the votes. It's that simple.
The Democrats are the party of social programs their constituents want to have, and GOP are the party of the people who want the government to disappear and privatize everything except for getting into the private sex lives of people.
After decades of working with this process and I might add, unpaid, this has been my experience. The nation is divided 50% vs. 50%, not 1% vs. 99% on all issues. The parties both have platforms made by people in the conventions state by state. Then they fight by the numbers in legislatures.
So check out your local representatives and see what their take on the social contract is. It was not a Democratic majority that passed regressive laws in states nationwide and in D. C. I've seen what strong Democratic majorities in this country vote for and you should tell your own Democratic representatives what you want.
If you live in a red area, they assume you want what they want and they'll do what they've done in all GOP areas. Slash taxes and spending, give the Commons away to their pals, and tell people how to live their sex lives.
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)It's actually en madde, but of course the "mistake" here is this: "If Republicans are truly interested in states rights..."
In point of fact, they are not interested in ideas and principles, but power, though I suspect the author knows this.
ancianita
(35,933 posts)Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)But the point is well taken.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)What do we have to lose by trying something that could work? We're headed for a train wreck otherwise anyway.
Good on Rep. Jim McDermott!
AnnieK401
(541 posts)Not holding my breath that this would work in the states with Republican Governors, but it's worth trying. Hope it goes through, but not holding my breath on that either.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)If democrats bother to vote this year......HR needs to fix the filibuster rules on the first day of the next session. Otherwise , the rushpublicans will fight for their masters and never allow HCR .
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)unkachuck
(6,295 posts)Edweird
(8,570 posts)current system of private insurance. They showed where their allegiances lay - this looks like nothing more than pandering of the worst sort.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)not encouraged. Single Payer should have been the Health Care Reform and we could have been done with it once & for all.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)and be done with it!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,395 posts)sort of a "lifeline" for single-payer? Frankly, I think that universal SP is going to come from the ground up, not the top-down. Once some states adopt it and if it works out, people in other states will invariably take notice and if they want it too, they'll push their own legislators to give it to them as well. Likewise for all of those Republican "free market" fans, they will have an opportunity to prove the superiority of their *ideas* as well- as long as they can demonstrate that they at least meet the standards set by ACA. All in all, ACA really wasn't that bad of a deal IMHO when you consider things like this.