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3900.00 for a three tooth bridge!!!!!! Plus 200 for a tooth extraction..... (Original Post) a kennedy Nov 2015 OP
Has the work been done already? Fumesucker Nov 2015 #1
Some accept payments for six months yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #2
I have a friend who is a dental technican, makes those sort of bridges Fumesucker Nov 2015 #5
That's a great idea. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #6
That is a horrible idea. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #9
My mistake I was thinking partial rather than bridge.. Fumesucker Nov 2015 #14
Thanks for acknowledging the difference. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #20
It surprised me to learn how much of our health care services spending nationally is dentistry Recursion Nov 2015 #22
A partial needs to be fitted too REP Nov 2015 #49
You are so right. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #53
I think I'd need a bone graft REP Nov 2015 #57
There is a lot more to a bridge preparation than the impression. Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #10
Yah, just an estimate, but the assistant told me the price over the phone. eom a kennedy Nov 2015 #12
Dental work is much less expensive in Mexico Fumesucker Nov 2015 #13
Wish I could get to Mexico........I'm just in shock. eom a kennedy Nov 2015 #15
Can you get to a nearby dental school? ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #17
That's an excellent suggestion! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #26
Probably the Twin Cities, or Milwaukee, would probably have to stay over night for apps, but a kennedy Nov 2015 #29
My mother did that for a bridge TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #52
So sorry. historylovr Nov 2015 #3
I just paid $891.00 for two abcessed teeth extracted. Iggo Nov 2015 #4
Yup - implants only for the top 1% :). I have found it helps Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2015 #34
had a couple of extractions restorefreedom Nov 2015 #37
I don't know where you're located, but a dental school can help you out Warpy Nov 2015 #7
I went to a dentist last year who charged LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #8
What?! That is criminal. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #19
I live in a suburb where many people LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #21
Very sorry about that. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #39
I hope you mean $400.... Person 2713 Nov 2015 #36
No. A simple filling is $600.00 at that dentist, and LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #46
You need to shop around or go to another area and ask for average prices seriously .i am in the Person 2713 Nov 2015 #56
aren't there a lot of people becoming dentists these days JI7 Nov 2015 #11
My friend quit dental school because she said all they talked about was how Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2015 #33
We been going to Mexico for years for Dental DUgosh Nov 2015 #16
Most dentists accept Care Credit, and they usually offer a 12-month no-interest Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #18
There are many FQHC's that provide dental services now on a sliding scale Recursion Nov 2015 #23
Have you had an estimate for an implant Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #24
There is a lot of dental tourism to Belize for dental work by US trained dentists mnhtnbb Nov 2015 #25
That's about the going rate for well-qualified professionals doing high-quality work flyingfysh Nov 2015 #27
I can't afford a car that costs that much easttexaslefty Nov 2015 #51
I still have a full partial plate made for me 20 years ago by a peasant in Vietnam for $25 pinboy3niner Nov 2015 #28
I don't get it.... Herebuddy Nov 2015 #30
Sorry if I wasn't clear pinboy3niner Nov 2015 #32
I predict we will be a toothless nation soon. Now, only the people Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2015 #31
ha ha . would be funny if it weren't so sad. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2015 #54
You could try to get a flipper but you'd probably ! maybe?have to go to a dentist in a low income Person 2713 Nov 2015 #35
might sound crazy restorefreedom Nov 2015 #38
This is what I was going to suggest. DU has always been know to help, at least part of the way... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #42
i just went on gofundme restorefreedom Nov 2015 #48
A bridge too far. Orrex Nov 2015 #40
Took the words right out of my fingers. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #41
Sick minds! Orrex Nov 2015 #43
Yeah, I paid almost that five years ago, no way around it flamingdem Nov 2015 #44
Dental and Optical don't count as medical care. For (reasons)... Romulox Nov 2015 #45
Tradition and cost is my guess. haele Nov 2015 #47
I got crucified for saying how big a rip easttexaslefty Nov 2015 #50
It is not the fault of dentists Big Blue Marble Nov 2015 #55
They do pretty well in big cities at least but mine was working on the indigent for free flamingdem Nov 2015 #58
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Some accept payments for six months
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

I know that would help a great deal. At least lower the stress level some.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. I have a friend who is a dental technican, makes those sort of bridges
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:59 PM
Nov 2015

If you get a set of impressions from the dentist you can have the bridge made elsewhere, the dentist has a hell of a markup because the techs don't make much.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
9. That is a horrible idea.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

Bridges are a lot more than the lab work. They must be carefully balanced in the mouth.
The margins must be sealed; often the margins are below the gum line and need to be xrayed
to be sure they are sealed and protecting the tooth from further decay.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
20. Thanks for acknowledging the difference.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:51 PM
Nov 2015

Partials are somewhat simpler than bridges. The sad thing is that dentistry is expensive to receive and it is expensive to deliver just like other areas in medicine. The cost of operating a dental office is a lot more expensive than most people realize.

REP

(21,691 posts)
49. A partial needs to be fitted too
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:17 PM
Nov 2015

I have a bridge that is actually a partial plate with two teeth, but due to which teeth are being replaced, a huge framework of metal is the only thing I could have. I think it took 15 fittings to get that thing in my face right! I wonder bore you with the wonders of my nightmare mouth ... except that I'm considering implants.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
53. You are so right.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

Many struggle with partials. And they are hard on the other teeth. They also can shrink the jawbone
over time. I can identify with your dental struggles; I have had my share also. It is important to
remember that everything dentisty does is a compromise. No solution fully restores our dentition and function.
They all have a downside (at least one).

Having said that, I encourage you to have implants with the caveat that you have enough bone to support them
and are not a smoker. Be sure you have the best oral surgeon you can find. And if you clench, be sure an
get a mouthguard.

I had an implant placed earlier this year. So far so good.

REP

(21,691 posts)
57. I think I'd need a bone graft
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:44 PM
Nov 2015

I know my teeth root(ed) into my sinuses, and the extractions were done a long time ago (fractured root and failed root canal).

I'm probably not a candidate for implants due to my overall health, especially if a graft is needed, but I'm still going to double check because things change in medicine. I have an unusually tight overbite and my teeth "lock" which is good - I don't grind because I can't - but it also means there's no room for the partial and I can't close my mouth with it in. I thought I'd get used to it, but it's just tiring to try to wear so ... next to find out if I can have expensive oral surgery my insurance won't cover.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
10. There is a lot more to a bridge preparation than the impression.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:12 PM
Nov 2015

And you do know that the lab tech could lose his/her license for practicing dentistry.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. Dental work is much less expensive in Mexico
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:41 PM
Nov 2015

A lot of people find it cheaper to fly to Mexico and have it done, even with the cost of the airfare..

I feel for you, my estimate is about $3500 for everything I need done, it might as well be $35,000 at this point..

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
17. Can you get to a nearby dental school?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:52 PM
Nov 2015

A lot of them go based on your income, most take payments. Sure, the work takes longer, but it's modern equipment and the work is done by ready-to-graduate dental students overseen by dentists. I had a GREAT experience, and the cost of the root canal, beginning to end, was $290 and I could have made payments.

a kennedy

(29,615 posts)
29. Probably the Twin Cities, or Milwaukee, would probably have to stay over night for apps, but
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:49 AM
Nov 2015

might be a possibility, thanks.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
52. My mother did that for a bridge
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:28 PM
Nov 2015

She was very happy with it. For a bridge you will probably get a 3rd year student, and all their work has to be inspected and approved by their instructor, who will be a dentist with many years experience.

I will say, if they give you antibiotics, I had a HORRIBLE experience with Clyndimicin. It fouled up my gut but good.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
4. I just paid $891.00 for two abcessed teeth extracted.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

And that's WITH insurance!

Dentist is all pissed because I can't afford the implants to replace them.

Dick.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. Yup - implants only for the top 1% :). I have found it helps
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:27 AM
Nov 2015

to find the older, established, one-person offices to go to. I had to have an abscessed tooth extracted and save a ton (they did it for $100)...He had the old timey "put a piece of film" in your mouth - instead of the expensive equipment that takes x-rays of your whole mouth and jaw - but who cares.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
37. had a couple of extractions
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:55 AM
Nov 2015

and they really pushed the implants. when i realized the cost and number of visits, plus the whole drilling a screw into my jaw thing, i just never bothered. but they pushed hard.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
7. I don't know where you're located, but a dental school can help you out
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

by doing the extraction and fitting you for the partial or bridge. Around here, we have labs that do partial and full dentures a lot cheaper than a general DDS would. Ask around, you might have the same thing near you.

Also check to see whether a partial would be a bit cheaper than a bridge. You can add teeth to it if you need to down the line, you can remove it to clean it, and best of all, you don't have to drill into healthy teeth to fit it. Downsides: you have to get used to it and you have to take it out to clean it.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
8. I went to a dentist last year who charged
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:08 PM
Nov 2015

$4000.00 for one crown, and he did a lousy job. He had a dental assistant "fit" the temp, and it was so poorly done, it fell out the next day.

Pays to ask around to find out who's both good and gets the job done at a reasonable cost.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. What?! That is criminal.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:50 PM
Nov 2015

I just paid $400 for a crown (after insurance, yes, but still, the total price wasn't anywhere near $4,000).

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
21. I live in a suburb where many people
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:02 AM
Nov 2015

are involved in the entertainent buisness (I'm not) and have cash to burn, so everyone ends up paying more for services -- everything from overpriced hair cuts to overpriced dental work. I have dental insurance, but with the high deductible and coverage exclusions, it's basically a joke. It took me a year to pay off that one crown. I need more work, but will have to do lots of homework and probably travel a considerable distance to find another dentist who won't rip me off.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
46. No. A simple filling is $600.00 at that dentist, and
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

they think nothing of asking for it up front. Tell them you can't pay all at once and they get pissed off and exasperated. I actually watched while the dentist checked my pay record before he got started.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
56. You need to shop around or go to another area and ask for average prices seriously .i am in the
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:26 PM
Nov 2015

Chicago area not a rural area so prices(rent/labor) are high but I never heard of that
Are you forgetting to say there was a root canal included before the crown that was part of the total ? Or it was metal of gold or maybe even a pure porcelain one which is a specialty ?
Otherwise
http://health.costhelper.com/dental-crown.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-your-dentist-ripping-you-off/

JI7

(89,239 posts)
11. aren't there a lot of people becoming dentists these days
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015

So they can't depend on getting enough regulars for checkup and cleaning.

So they are charging a lot for these other procedures. In some cases it could be questionable.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. My friend quit dental school because she said all they talked about was how
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:21 AM
Nov 2015

to recoup your equipment investments by bilking people. The number 1 procedure to recommend was: "We need to extract all of your wisdom teeth because they will cause you problems down the road"

DUgosh

(3,054 posts)
16. We been going to Mexico for years for Dental
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 09:49 PM
Nov 2015

We are picked up on the American side, (Del Rio Texas ) driven over, driven back.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
18. Most dentists accept Care Credit, and they usually offer a 12-month no-interest
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:49 PM
Nov 2015

payment plan. I know it would be a lot to pay even in 12 payments, but it might help for some of it (?). I've paid for things like crowns and wisdom teeth extractions this way.

http://www.carecredit.com/?dtc=N353&Exact=care%20credit&gclid=CLOK8urrhMkCFZWHaQodC70OgA

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
23. There are many FQHC's that provide dental services now on a sliding scale
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:18 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.ada.org/en/public-programs/action-for-dental-health/access-to-care/federally-qualified-health-centers-faq

https://www.cdhp.org/resources/243-fqhc-handbook-increasing-access-to-dental-care-through-public-private-partnerships

http://www.fqhc.org/find-an-fqhc/

FQHCs receive a grant for a significant part of their operating budget in exchange for providing primary and specialist services on an income-based sliding scale (they also take insurance). Many also provide dental services. It may be worth checking out.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
24. Have you had an estimate for an implant
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:30 AM
Nov 2015

instead of a bridge? One implant should cost about the same or even less than a bridge. An implant avoids cutting down other teeth. More importantly, bridges will often lead to root canals in your abutment teeth (the two teeth that support the bridge. Do get an estimate on the implant as well as the bridge.

Either way, do ask your dentist what kinds of payment plans they offer. Most patients do require payment support when facing significant dental treatment. You are not alone.

mnhtnbb

(31,373 posts)
25. There is a lot of dental tourism to Belize for dental work by US trained dentists
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:47 AM
Nov 2015

at a fraction of the cost of US dental work. (Beware of Mexico for dentistry).

We were in Belize some years ago and toured the country with some ex-pats--from Los Angeles--
who moved there in the late 80's. There are excellent dentists in Belize City. You should
really look into it.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
27. That's about the going rate for well-qualified professionals doing high-quality work
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:19 AM
Nov 2015

I had to have a tooth surgically removed (about $1500), a titanium implant installed in my jawbone ($2500), and a new tooth installed on top of that (over $3000), but the result is great. The people involved were all affiliated with Harvard Dental School.

Fortunately, I could afford it. Most people probably can't.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
28. I still have a full partial plate made for me 20 years ago by a peasant in Vietnam for $25
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:21 AM
Nov 2015

A tooth or the partial broke on one of my visits to Vietnam. I was staying with Vietnamese friends and a guy in the neighborhood (not really a peasant) happened to do dental work in his living room.

The guy had assisted U.S. military dentists during the war. After the war he pored over dentistry textbooks and scrounged equipment and supplies. He installed a scrounged dental chair in his living room and began taking patients.

The partial he made for me was better than anything I had gotten from the U.S. military or the VA. I didn't give him the 25 bucks he asked for. (I thought he deserved a lot more to help with his education. )

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
32. Sorry if I wasn't clear
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:16 AM
Nov 2015

I paid him far more than the $25 he asked for, to support his enterprise and his education.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. I predict we will be a toothless nation soon. Now, only the people
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:15 AM
Nov 2015

who are doing well can afford dental work.

Really a tragedy. Bright side, perhaps obesity levels will decline.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
35. You could try to get a flipper but you'd probably ! maybe?have to go to a dentist in a low income
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:50 AM
Nov 2015

area that fits them .only place I'd ever seen them offered as an alternative but maybe it's just herethat there is a class difference in what different dentist will mention
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removable_partial_denture
You have to flip it in and out for eating etc that's why the one tooth ones are called that

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
38. might sound crazy
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:00 PM
Nov 2015

but maybe a fundme account? i have seen people ask for money to pay off their credit cards and to pay for in vitro fertility treatments. a needed dental procedure would certainly qualify imo.

good luck to you. another sad example of how this is becoming a world for the "haves" only

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
42. This is what I was going to suggest. DU has always been know to help, at least part of the way...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:07 PM
Nov 2015

...if not the whole way, and then some.

Couldn't hurt to try.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
48. i just went on gofundme
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

there are campaigns raising money for wedding expenses and honeymoon trips! certainly a needed dental expense would get some attention i would hope

a lot of fundraising for good causes. it is heartening but at the same time discouraging. if people want to try to raise money to have the trip of a lifetime that's their business, but people shouldn't have to go online and try to raise money to pay for medical care in 2015, that just appalling imo.

a lot of vet bills for dogs that were hit by cars, etc. very generous people contributing to many causes.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
44. Yeah, I paid almost that five years ago, no way around it
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:10 PM
Nov 2015

but I had a great dentist and it hasn't caused me any problems.

I wasted money getting a consult for an implant. So glad I didn't do that with having to take antibiotics and it's more pricey.

So the only silver lining is that it's the way to go but make sure your dentist is very good for that price.

haele

(12,640 posts)
47. Tradition and cost is my guess.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:34 PM
Nov 2015

Historically, dentistry was cosmetic - basically pulling bad or painful teeth and fitting dentures to replace them (rather than medical services for the mouth), which was why you went to your barber to get your dentistry done - a good barber was trained in various cosmetic methods to help one look acceptable. It was technical work back in the day - my great-grandfather was a barber/dentist up until the 1920's, until California required all dentists to be licensed through a representative professional association as they did doctors and surgeons.
Likewise, anything dealing with correcting vision was pretty much done by a person with a scientific background who had trained himself (or herself) to work with lenses to bring objects into focus. If you didn't read or drive, it usually didn't matter if your vision was poor, so glasses were something professional people or wealthy people needed.

Neither service required a hospital or medical clinic services. While there was a historic "split" between doctors, pharmacists, and surgeons in terms of technical requirements and education, all considered medical professions. Dentistry was a cosmetic profession (it was nice to have teeth, but you didn't need them to eat), and optometry provided a "tool" that wasn't required to survive in most cases.
That's the "traditional" reasons.

Cost is another reason. Yearly dental visits and dental maintenance are more expensive than yearly medical visits, and people who go to the dentist typically either "don't need the services" or need lots of service. That's ends up insurance wise as sort of a half and half situation - half the people who go to a dentist regularly don't need to go other than as a checkup and cleaning costing at least twice as much and lasting far longer than an annual doctor's visit and lab work does, and half go in needing xrays, drilling and fillings, crowns, non-cosmetic braces, or other expensive services. Also, the issue of what is medically necessary and what is cosmetic comes into question - especially with orthodontia.
Likewise, most people don't need the time and expense to see an optometrist on a yearly basis and can make due with a doctor with an eye chart; going to see and optometrist also requires an extended visit using equipment that is expensive to maintain just to verify that there has not been a change in vision quality. Also, purchase of corrective lenses and frames can wander into the cosmetic zone, and lord knows, insurance can't cover things that are purchased just because they help the patient "look nice" or look more professional.

Now, dental and optical is considered medical care when it comes to reconstructive or a symptomatic situation where there is an underlying medical or situational cause (rather than hereditary or "poor habits/lack of care&quot . But including those as part of medical care needs to be carefully documented to be covered (i.e., accident insurance claims), and they can't be the primary reasons to seek medical care.

I do know someone who got dental care included due to cancer of the jaw. But that's not a way that I would want my dental to be covered...

Anywhere, there's my guess.

Haele

easttexaslefty

(1,554 posts)
50. I got crucified for saying how big a rip
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:12 PM
Nov 2015

off denistry is, several months ago. It's quickly becoming out of reach for many.
I'm sorry. I understand.

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
55. It is not the fault of dentists
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:00 PM
Nov 2015

that dentistry has become so unaffordable. It is the fact we are not paying our workers enough
to take care of themselves.

Dentistry done right is far from a ripoff. It is an essential part of health care. Without good dentition,
we cannot eat or nourish ourselves. Unhealthy gums lead to heart disease. Dental abscesses kill.

Being a dentist is one of the more stressful careers one can choose; at the same time one of the
most rewarding. Seeing people's life transformed with good dentistry, is what keeps most dentists
going. I assure you most are not wealthy.

A world without dentists would be a world I certainly would not choose. Would you?

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
58. They do pretty well in big cities at least but mine was working on the indigent for free
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:45 AM
Nov 2015

when I learned that I stopped thinking of him as a rich guy. He's a good guy.

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