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Kaisch won this debate. There ought to be a head to head between Christie and Kaisch. nt (Original Post) kelliekat44 Nov 2015 OP
I thought he won the first one too but the media disagreed. BlueStater Nov 2015 #1
Kasich by far makes the most sense. That's why his poll numbers will probably drop... think Nov 2015 #2
Yes, the GOP base hates people making sense. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #3
To me, Kaisch is the most sane one. "If" we had to have a R, I could deal with him. ... but he's RKP5637 Nov 2015 #4
Please research the devastation this man has done to Ohio! peace13 Nov 2015 #5
+1 emulatorloo Nov 2015 #9
peac13, thanks for this information, I had no idea! Thanks for pointing this out! RKP5637 Nov 2015 #12
+ 1000 MBS Nov 2015 #20
I think he has a good shot, but don't be fooled. immoderate Nov 2015 #6
Reading post #5 I made a miscall on him. I had thought he RKP5637 Nov 2015 #14
" " " " n/t MBS Nov 2015 #21
I don't want Kasich jen63 Nov 2015 #7
I don't want him either but I warned folks to watch out for him. He is shrewd. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #17
I watched faux noise for what the gallery says.....they thought that statement from kaisch regarding a kennedy Nov 2015 #8
IMO Kasich is far and away their strongest candidate. I really hope the crazies vote him down Recursion Nov 2015 #10
True. peace13 Nov 2015 #11
That makes me mad ! Ohio Dems - no one to run. Such a pivotal position. Sure Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2015 #15
A couple years ago We had a Dem SOS who resigned her office to run in national election. peace13 Nov 2015 #18
I know you said he is bad. But, is he decent enough not to rig Ohio again? nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2015 #19
Blackwell was SOS for the debacle. peace13 Nov 2015 #25
Agreed alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #16
KASICH. WinkyDink Nov 2015 #13
Kasich and Bush both were sub-par and unfocused. yallerdawg Nov 2015 #22
He didn't win, he seemed too reasonable. Shoulders of Giants Nov 2015 #23
Christie again? Iggo Nov 2015 #24
Their ought to be hammers on the heads of all the GOP candidates. valerief Nov 2015 #26
I live in Ohio Mendocino Nov 2015 #27
Kasich scares me Freddie Nov 2015 #28
both are slimeballs rockfordfile Nov 2015 #29
He's won every debate but he is one of the weirdest of the lot underpants Nov 2015 #30

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
1. I thought he won the first one too but the media disagreed.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

They all jizzed (pardon my French) over that empty suit Rubio.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. To me, Kaisch is the most sane one. "If" we had to have a R, I could deal with him. ... but he's
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:22 AM
Nov 2015

not crazy enough for the loony R base.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
5. Please research the devastation this man has done to Ohio!
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:49 AM
Nov 2015

He is a tea bagging sun of a gun. First year in office he cut all budgets, schools included and municipalities had to make up the difference. The citizens of Ohio had to pick up the mess and pay at home. Before he came into office he tried to bilk millions from retirement accounts to line his own pockets. He sold us to the frackers and Ohioans pay to clean up the mess. When he came to office he stopped legislation to clean up the deadly blue green algae on Lake Erie saying it was caused by just a few bad apples and now six years later he proposes that the taxpayers clean up the mess by paying additional taxes. He gave the profits from the State liquor sales to a privatized board that was supposed to create jobs. Jobs Ohio, check it out. His original plan was to hire a man from California to run it. That man's salary was to be one dollar. Do you see anything fishy there? In addition to this the jobs board is an unauditable entity, run by a private board with State tax dollars! In the meantime the city of Toledo had to shut off all city water causing hospitals to cancel all procedures. The lake is a disaster that didn't wait to happen! This man ....is not to be trusted!

MBS

(9,688 posts)
20. + 1000
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:54 AM
Nov 2015

Thanks very much for educating folks on Kasich. He's done as much damage to his state as Walker has done to Wisconsin - just with a more "reasonable"-seeming veneer.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
6. I think he has a good shot, but don't be fooled.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:04 AM
Nov 2015

He has knack for sounding moderate. My wingnut friends think he sounds like Jon Huntsman. He's not.

--imm

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
14. Reading post #5 I made a miscall on him. I had thought he
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:00 AM
Nov 2015

sounded like Jon Huntsman, but I was clearly wrong.

a kennedy

(36,007 posts)
8. I watched faux noise for what the gallery says.....they thought that statement from kaisch regarding
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:56 AM
Nov 2015

the bank bailouts was the most liberal he could have said. No....kaisch did not win with this repub group.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. IMO Kasich is far and away their strongest candidate. I really hope the crazies vote him down
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:38 AM
Nov 2015

I'd rather run against any of the other candidates.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
11. True.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:49 AM
Nov 2015

He can appear normal but once in office demeans people with his words and picks their pockets clean. Not a good feeling. Ohioans have suffered! He was only re elected because the Ohio Dems had no one to run. The committee put up a candidate that came with his own video tape and I don't mean the good kind. It makes my heart stop when I hear anyone on the national level even think that Kasick might be a viable candidate!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. That makes me mad ! Ohio Dems - no one to run. Such a pivotal position. Sure
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

Debbie worked her ass off on that one. Not her job, right? But Dean might have made something happen?

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
18. A couple years ago We had a Dem SOS who resigned her office to run in national election.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:14 AM
Nov 2015

She lost and big plus...we got a rethug SOS to boot! It is not good thinking I tell you!

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
25. Blackwell was SOS for the debacle.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:12 PM
Nov 2015

DeWine is a defrocked Senator playing the role of SOS now. The ballots went through the RNC computers on the last known heist so it is anyone's guess how things will roll. The rethugs seem content to run imbeciles, no offense to imbeciles, which makes we wonder how they expect to win without help. We still have the Diebold machines that the Dem SOS deemed easily hackable and yet vacated office without correcting the problem. Life goes on.....and the nation's elections are dependent on the outcome.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. Agreed
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:00 AM
Nov 2015

I think he has a chance to pull it out. The GOP field is going to be a mess until after Super Tuesday. No telling who might emerge from the Battle Royal, but it won't be Trump or Carson. My money's on Kasich, Rubio, or even Bush pulling out of the tailspin when people actually step into a booth.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
22. Kasich and Bush both were sub-par and unfocused.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

Kasich actually became incomprehensible at one point, caught and couldn't get out!

Trump and Carson just double-down on their generally outlandish positions.

Rubio is mouthing a script, and often stumbles over his lines.

Christie is toast. Already on the undercard.

The one who stands out again is Cruz. He is the insider-outsider who is a real conservative on policy, and he is a true believer.

If this election is going to be about Democratic 3rd-term 'status quo' (in some sense) and Republican disgruntled, betrayed 'change,' Cruz is the one to watch. He has got the cred, the record, the PAC money, and the rap to give Republicans a real alternative vision and contrast to the Democratic candidate.

This is shaping up to be a 'heart and soul' election.

Will the "great ship of state" which is America steer Left or Right?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
26. Their ought to be hammers on the heads of all the GOP candidates.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:17 PM
Nov 2015

Who needs 'em? Not the 99%!

Mendocino

(8,495 posts)
27. I live in Ohio
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:19 PM
Nov 2015

and I've said it before and I'll say it again, you do not want this miscreant anywhere near the Whitehouse.

Freddie

(10,107 posts)
28. Kasich scares me
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:32 PM
Nov 2015

He comes across and has the rep of a "reasonable moderate". Nothing moderate about him and a typical repug woman-hater too. Of all the possible candidates he's the biggest threat IMO.

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