If I walked into a Target and saw a woman openly carrying this Terminator gun,

[Playinghardball]

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it would be my last trip to Target....

[RKP5637]

1. I see that and to me it spells Danger. Get the hell out of the store! n/t

[SheilaT]

2. And the store needs to know.

[beevul]

57. The store is blind?

Do you think they can't see it?

[rockfordfile]

3. I would call the cops

[GGJohn]

5. why?

[smirkymonkey]

9. Are you serious? WTF?

Who the hell needs to open carry to go on a routine shopping trip?

I don't know what part of the country you live in, but where I live that would be alarming. I would walk out and never come back until it was strictly forbidden and enforced by law.

[GGJohn]

13. How do you even know this is in the US?

This could be Israel for all we know.

[smirkymonkey]

15. Really? Where on earth else would this be?

Do you have to ask?

[GGJohn]

21. This is pretty common in Israel.

[daleanime]

37. Must be...

since you only use the one image to back it up, why don't you waste some time digging up a few others?


Just remember, you have as much chance of convincing me as I do convincing you.

[GGJohn]

43. Challenge accepted.

I'd keep going, but I think I've made my point.

[smirkymonkey]

55. What a sick, sick world you and these people live in.

That is not at all what my daily life looks life. And if it did I think I would shoot myself.

[GGJohn]

60. Sick world I live in?

WTF are you talking about?
I said that I oppose open carry except for in a very few limited circumstances.
My daily life doesn't look anything like that either, my daily life deals with farm animals and farm chores.

[beevul]

58. The truth is painful, to some. N/T

[GGJohn]

61. Yes it is. eom.

[LiberalElite]

62. Common in Israel

is not normal here.

[GGJohn]

67. In some parts of the country,

this is not uncommon.

[Hoyt]

31. Yeah, but this is not a war zone or close to it.

[GGJohn]

33. Who the hell said it was?

All I'm asking is whether or not this picture was taken in the US?
Perhaps you can tell us?

[Hoyt]

34. You seen to think so with your 4 gun safes, and at least one strapped

to your body to walk down the street. I really don't care where it was taken. Fact is, folks carry guns like that in this country, and gunners condone it.

[GGJohn]

36. Now why did I just know that this would be, almost word for word, your reply to me?

Could it be that you're so predictable?

Typically Hoytism.

[LiberalElite]

50. I just looked at the Target website - I could be wrong but

it appeared to me that they are only located in the U.S. and India.

[Lizzie Poppet]

54. And no stores in India, to the best of my knowledge.

Just corporate offices for a couple-three departments (IT, etc...).

[Lizzie Poppet]

40. I'm positive it was in the US.

It's a Target store...and Target has no stores outside the US.

[GGJohn]

47. Are you sure about that?

Because there are Target stores in Canada, Australia, etc.

https://corporate.target.com/Careers/global-locations

[Lizzie Poppet]

52. Yep.

I'd already been to that link, and there's nothing there about stores anywhere but the US (I just double-checked by searching the page for both "Canada" and "Australia," and got 0 hits on either word). They have offices in India- IT and other corporate services Bangalore, I believe - but no stores listed.

[GGJohn]

56. Ok.

There were Target stores in Canada, but according to an article I just read, they were all closed this year.

[Fairgo]

68. That aggressive and fearful behaviour

Is neither allowed or necessary in Oz. We are braver and more civilised than that.

[Kilgore]

20. I see it a few times a week in my area.

I live in Washington state and its not that uncommon to see upen carry in my area.

Local law enforcement does not seem to have a problem with it and concealed carry permits are freely given.

No angst or drama about it here.

[GGJohn]

25. Nor is AZ,

where we don't even have to have a CHL to carry openly or concealed.

[Kilgore]

35. Nice

We are very liberal with open carry, but have to pay $52 for a permit to cover a background check for the CCW however.

Very little drama surrounding guns here in rural WA.

Seattle may be a tad different however!!

[GGJohn]

38. We do have the option of getting a CHL permit to carry in other states

that have a reciprocity agreement with AZ, which is the route I went.

[Kilgore]

46. Interesting

I wish they would pass universal reciprocity, dealing with the paperwork sucks.

[smirkymonkey]

39. Sorry about that. I am just grateful that I live in an area of the country

where this is NEVER seen. It is horrifying to us. I can't imagine what it is like to live in world like this.

It is so foreign to me. If I lived like this, I would effing SWIM to Europe

[Kilgore]

45. Actually we have an almost zero crime rate in our county

And that is not an exaggeration. What crime we do have usually comes from people passing through.

Plus it was and still is a wonderful place to raise our kids.

[smirkymonkey]

64. You actually want your children to grow up where this is the norm?

Where do you live? Do you know how nice it is to live in a place where this is not necessary? Where we don't live in fear of being blown away on a moments notice? What on earth is wrong with you people?

[beevul]

63. It may not be seen...

It may not be seen, but I guarantee that if you live in the U.S., you live in a state where its legal to carry one way or the other.

[GGJohn]

23. I live in AZ, where, while not common,

it's not something we get excited about either.

[Waldorf]

53. Actually, open carry is allowed in most of the Country, especially long guns.

"Open Carrying of Handguns: Only five states, California, Florida, Illinois New York, and South Carolina, as well as the District of Columbia, prohibit the open carrying of handguns in public places. Thirty-one states allow the open carrying of a handgun without any license or permit, although in some cases the gun must be unloaded. Fifteen states require some form of license or permit in order to openly carry a handgun."

"Open Carrying of Long Guns: Six states, California, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Minnesota and New Jersey, as well as the District of Columbia, generally ban the open carrying of long guns (rifles and shotguns). In the 44 remaining states, openly carrying a long gun is legal, although in three of these states, Iowa, Tennessee and Utah, the long gun must be unloaded. In addition, Virginia and Pennsylvania limit the ability to openly carry long guns in certain cities. In a majority of states, it is legal for an individual to openly carry a loaded firearm in public without a permit."

http://smartgunlaws.org/open-carrying-policy-summary/

[Kilgore]

30. This happened in my town

Manager of a Baskin Robbins (I think) called the cops on a person having a cone who was open carrying.

Cops showed and explained to the manager it is legal, no crime was committed.

Made the local paper. Will try to find a link.

[GGJohn]

4. Your choice,

myself, I don't agree with open carry, but I don't get all weird over it also, especially if I see it being carried like these 2 women are carrying theirs.
Notice neither rifle has a mag in it, they're perfectly safe.

[GusBob]

6. Speak to the manager first

Tell him you are never coming back

[beevul]

66. ROFL.

Such an awkward question wont likely be answered.

[GGJohn]

8. Is this even in the US? eom.

[Paladin]

12. What other country besides the U.S. countenances such idiocy with guns? (nt)

[GGJohn]

14. How about Israel?

[Paladin]

16. Not remotely the same, in terms of politics, regulation, history, and potential for violence.

But you knew that already, didn't you?

[GGJohn]

19. Do you know for a fact that the OP's pic isn't in Israel?

Are you certain that that pic was taken in the US?

[Paladin]

27. Your desperation is showing. I'm cutting you some slack and ending this conversation. (nt)

[GGJohn]

32. So, IOW, you don't know if this picture was taken in the US?

Neither do I, and just for the record, I'm opposed to open carry except for limited circumstances.

[Kalidurga]

42. This is how I know

http://momsdemandaction.org/target-open-carry/

But, I am not going to be up in arms about people carrying guns around. I saw it all the time when I was growing up. It's a pretty common thing in rural America.

[polly7]

17. One of the stupidest things I've seen in my life. nt.

(on edit - not your post .......... that woman exposing everyone around her to danger just to go to a damn store. Crazy.)

[GGJohn]

24. Don't know much about firearms do you.

If you had looked, you would notice that the mag wells are empty?
Did you also happen to notice that those rifles are slung across their backs in a non threatening manner?

[polly7]

26. My dad shot himself with one.

I've been on calls to quite a few others who've purposefully or accidentally shot themselves or others.

I know all I need to.

[GGJohn]

28. I'm sorry about your father.

But the fact is that those rifles are in a safe, non threatening mode, and do we even know if this picture was taken in the US?

[polly7]

48. Thanks.

I do admit ......... I hate guns. Hate them. Growing up on a farm, I know that they're necessary at times for protection against predators, but seriously - self protection in a store with possibly hundreds of other people who could be shot only because they were there? I'm trying to think of the number of pts. we've transported who were involved in accidental shootings who just couldn't imagine how it happened. I had a little friend in elementary school who was shot by his brother, my cousin was killed hunting when going through a barbed-wire fence. Guns are never 'safe and non threatening', there is always the possibility of someone being shot.

I just don't see a reason for one except to protect livestock, etc. or ...... maybe, self-protection at home if someone really feels there is a danger to their lives in the area they live, and those guns should be very, very safely stored.

Strapping on a deadly weapon like in this picture to head down to the store, to me - no matter where it is, is absolutely freaking nuts.

[GGJohn]

51. I agree that open carrying like that is freaking stupid,

but if I saw those women with their rifles in that mode, I certainly wouldn't freak out and leave, I might say something to the manager about how this might make other customers uncomfortable and they might lose business and it might be a good idea to politely ask them to cease and desist.

See, we can agree on some things.

[aikoaiko]

18. I'd ask either of them why they were unloaded.

[immoderate]

22. Why do you think they call it TARGET?

--imm

[Hoyt]

29. Women with gunz don't really bother me. It's the sick yahoos that carry, and those

that promote guns in more places.

[countingbluecars]

41. They look like

idiots trying to prove that they're so cool and bad.

[Lizzie Poppet]

44. While I consider open carry to be silly...

...this particular scenario wouldn't bother me. Carrying openly, weapons slung, magazine well empty? It's not impossible they might be up to no good...but it seems damned unlikely.

Still a dumb idea, though...

[LittleBlue]

49. If I saw that in the store

I'd say "look at that, how strange" and go about my shopping.

I'm far more worried about concealed weapons. Criminals facing weapons violations concern me much more than open carry people.

[Rex]

59. Yeah well the new terminators look just like humans, so won't you feel foolish

without an assault weapon? Of course they will start at Target. What a dumb place to shop when freedumbs are in peril!

[gwheezie]

65. I think it's nuts

I'd stay away from them, I have no idea what they might do.
I was at a 4h show once helping the neighbor with her kids at the horse show and some loon was there with a fucking rifle for gods sake. So I went up to him and said omg, did a horse break a leg and youre here to shoot it? Why else would a grown ass man be at a kids horse show parade around with a rifle, it doesn't make a lika bita sense. I mean what is the point? Most people out here have rifles but who parades around with them at a horse show. I feel the same way about people wearing their pajamas to Walmart. Sure you are free to do that but ya look deranged.

[beevul]

69. "Terminator gun".

What a joke.


I don't believe I've ever seen a terminator movie where ANYONE used a civilian legal semi auto rifle of any brand/shape/form.


Nice hyperbole though.

[TexasTowelie]

70. Locking thread.

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