Who else has taken to referring to ISIS/ISIL as Daesh? They hate being called Daesh.

[backscatter712]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-isis-war-use-daesh/V85GYEuasEEJgrUun0dMUP/story.html?event=event25%3Fevent%3Devent25

TL/DR: "Daesh" is the Arabic letter acronym of the Arabic words that mean "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria" - it literally means ISIS or ISIL. However, there are connotations in Arabic - Daesh is one letter from an Arabic word that means "to trample". Also, acronyms aren't really a thing in Arabic cultures like they are here in the West, so to use an acronym instead of saying the name out is diminishing and insulting. So it's like calling the United States "Murica". Except we have a sense of humor about it.

Besides, totalitarians get butthurt and apeshit when they're mocked. They've literally threatened to cut the tongues out of anyone that says "Daesh".

So I'm calling the head-choppers Daesh.

[msrizzo]

1. Sounds good to me.

How is it pronounced?

[backscatter712]

2. "Dah-esh". Or something close.

Arabic syllables and letters don't map 1-to-1 with English syllables and letters. Arabic speakers say it so fast that to my ears, it sounds almost like "Desh".

[msrizzo]

3. Well I guess if I say Dahesh

People will know what I'm talking about. I hadn't heard that term until the Paris attacks. But I don't like calling them a state. They are terrorists pure and simple.

[Tipperary]

4. Well, that works for me.

Usually I just call them terrorists. Or scum.

[Kalidurga]

5. If MSM would do this it would be great psi ops

[RKP5637]

8. I heard it used yesterday on MSM.

If You Hear President Obama and John Kerry Call ISIS “Daesh,” Here’s Why

http://news.yahoo.com/hear-president-obama-john-kerry-152232541.html

"It is an act of war that was waged by a terrorist army, a jihadist army, by Daesh, against France," French President François Hollande said shortly after the attacks. Secretary of State John Kerry also used the term during a meeting in Vienna. "The United States, I want to emphasize, welcomes support in the fight against Daesh," he said. During a speech at the G20 summit in Turkey, U.S. President Barack Obama said it too. "Turkey has been a strong partner with the United States and other members of the coalition in going after the activities of ISIL, or Daesh, both in Syria and Iraq."

[Kalidurga]

12. Good I will have a hard time remembering the new name unless

I hear or read it a lot.

[flamingdem]

21. Yeah I noticed that

Kerry being hip by using Daesh, yet Lindsey Graham insists in Isil as does Obama. When will they coordinate!

[joshcryer]

6. Was wondering where this was coming from.

I can get behind that.

[YvonneCa]

11. John Kerry calls them Daesh. ISIS name elevates..

...them to a state. They aren't a state.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. Are there many ISIS folk in yer neck of the woods to offend?

[backscatter712]

9. Doesn't hurt to spread the meme. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

13. Frankly, If I were a terrorist, I would have other things on my mind

and wouldn't care very much about sone calling me names.

If I were a terrorist I would be looking for my next target...if it hasn't already been set up.

I'll leave the naming conventions to others.

[2pooped2pop]

10. shouldn't that be spelled douche?

Perhaps pronounced doo-shay?

[shenmue]

18. We have a winner

[backscatter712]

20. Daesh, IIRC, also rhymes with ja-hish, which means donkey or ass in Arabic.

So call them daesh-holes.

[Waldorf]

14. Read about this yesterday. Anything to offend them sounds good to me, though when I usually talk

about them there's about 8 curse words strung together.

[KamaAina]

15. Me! Fsck Daesh sideways with this!

[Dragonfli]

16. My Iraqi American friends call them that

They are of course Shia, the main Muslim victims of the extreme Wahhabi belief system. to DAESH they are infidels hated even more than others because of their tolerance of other religious beliefs.

The Shia leader in Iraq Ali al-Sistani has been protecting Christians and others fleeing the destruction and has let them take shelter and live in their most sacred mosques in Najaf and in Karbala.

My friend Salim, originally from Karbala has opened an unused family home in that city for two Christian families to live in rent free and their neighbors make sure they are fed. people in Najif and Karbala have been following Sistani's lead and have been doing similar en mass.

In America, the common belief is that most Muslim people are like those found in Saudi Arabia. The truth is most Shia are more than just peace loving, but quite generous to those in need, the extreme Sunni sects are rather nasty and the worst of them appear to be the Wahhabist (the same sect that put and has kept the Saudi royal family in power in Saudi Arabia - they should not be our allies, they approve and fund the jihadists even as they say otherwise.

For what it is worth, Salim is convinced that both DAESH and al-quieda are products of the CIA and Saudi Royals, and that the Saudis provide financial support while the CIA provided the initial training. I trust his judgement as he worked for the US military in the nineties and knew some of the things going on. After Iraq war 1.0 he and his brother had to relocate here because his involvement helping our military as translators and cultural advisers (teaching troops how not to offend people of Muslim culture inadvertently) earned them a place on a death list kept by Saddam's son. He also keeps up with Iraqi social media

[Scootaloo]

17. Have been from the start

[StrayKat]

19. Pronunciation

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Here is Nasser Kamel (the Egyptian ambassador to the UK) pronouncing the word (@21):

[linuxman]

22. They don't care.

http://imgur.com/xtDs3Yk

[backscatter712]

23. They have literally threatened to cut the tongues out of anyone that calls them Daesh...

...so that means they do care.

[linuxman]

24. No,

I mean they care about a bunch of old white people attempting to neener-neener them on facebook by calling them daesh from America.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. These are people who go into murderous rampage mode over "blasphemous" cartoons.

So, yeah, I bet they do care.

[linuxman]

27. Well I guess everyone is really showing them.

Slacktivism reaches new heights.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Are they?

Usually when I tell some pinheaded fundamentalist asshole to fuck off over the internet, I don't expect it to "accomplish" anything beyond giving me a special warm feeling in the fuck off chakra.

Examining your point, here, though, Im not sure what whining about the phenomenon of "old white people on facebook calling them names" is supposed to accomplish, either.

[Kablooie]

25. ISIS will be gone soon.

[Blue_In_AK]

29. The Kurds have been calling them that, as well.

The first I heard the term was from a FB photographer friend who lives in northern Iraq.