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Koinos

(2,792 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:44 PM Nov 2015

"Top 10 Reasons Governors are Wrong to Exclude Syrian Refugees"

"Top 10 Reasons Governors are Wrong to Exclude Syrian Refugees"
By Juan Cole

http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/reasons-governors-refugees.html

Here are three of the reasons he gives:

1. The attackers in Paris were European nationals. The Syrian passport found near one of them was a fake. So are the governors opposed to Belgian immigration into the United States?

2. The attackers were not refugees. They were born in Europe. Refugees are poor and lacking in knowledge or resources about their new environment. The attackers knew exactly where everything was that they wanted to assault and were hooked in with arms smugglers and other hard-to-discover criminal networks.


4.These refugees undergo at least 18 months of background checks, contrary to what Sen. Mario Rubio (whose parents were Cuban immigrants to the US) has alleged.


But the whole article is a worthwhile read. Loaded with facts and common sense from an expert on the Middle East.
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Koinos

(2,792 posts)
2. Juan Cole says that in his first paragraph.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015
Some half of US governors have announced their opposition to their states taking in Syrian refugees after the Paris attacks. Although they can bother refugees, they can’t actually dictate to people who are here legally where they can live. But anyway, here are the reasons for which these announcements are a form of political hysteria and not grounded in any rational policy considerations:


Wish I could paste the whole article.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
4. Yep, the perpetrators were European nationals and weren't Syrian refugees.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:09 PM
Nov 2015

So we punish Syrian refugees.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
6. That's how the U.S. rolls apparently. Gotta beef up the enemy to
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:14 PM
Nov 2015

pound those war profiteering drums louder.

npk

(3,660 posts)
5. The GOP is once again using fear tactics to gain a political edge
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:13 PM
Nov 2015

They are playing to the darkest fears and stupidity of their political base. I think they are hedging their bests that there will be further ISIS attacks between now and the GE next year. They are probably thinking that these attacks will take place in countries where Syrian refugees are being placed and that once again they will use the "refugees" as pawns in their game to try and take back the white house. What is alarming is that many states in this country, that are not typically GOP/Conservative states, are falling for this shit too.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
7. Yep, I remember all the fear-mongering "code red" terrorist alarms before Bush's reelection.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

The corporate advertising industry in this country has trained the sheeple to buy any thing or idea.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
8. ?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:29 AM
Nov 2015
4.These refugees undergo at least 18 months of background checks, contrary to what Sen. Mario Rubio (whose parents were Cuban immigrants to the US) has alleged.

We won't get any refugees for at least 18 months then?

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
9. Yep, that's how it works.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:03 PM
Nov 2015

It could even take longer than that.

A good description of how the process works (as posted by an immigration lawyer in Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/BryanScottHicks/posts/1187326084630475?fref=nf

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
11. The ones starting now won't get in for at least 18 months, more like 2 yrs
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

And even then, there is only a percentage that make it. Some started the process already and are arriving but yes. If you wanted to start now, it'd be a while.

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