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http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/5/27/12526/7675DOJ Needs to Intervene in Florida
by BooMan
Sun May 27th, 2012 at 12:05:26 PM EST
If you thought the Florida elections in 2000 were an unmitigated clusterfuck, just wait until November. What we're witnessing is a naked attempt to steal the Florida election. Nothing could be more obvious. And it's up to the Department of Justice to step in and aggressively go after Governor Rick Scott's disenfranchisement campaign that is intentionally targeting Latino and Democrats and illegally striking them from the voting rolls.
I say the following almost literally: the only one committing voter fraud in Florida is Ann Coulter. Of course, what the governor is doing goes way beyond voter fraud. He's trying to tip the election and change who our next president will be as a result. If he doesn't back down, he should be put in prison and charged with one count of voter fraud for every citizen he wrongfully disenfranchised.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)Eric, grow a pair!
INdemo
(6,994 posts)of BS but sluffed it off thinking it would never happen again..Well it happen in 2004 and yes it can happen again but what really pisses me of is the fact that when Democrats had control of Congress they neglected to act and as usual allowed Repukes to walk over them..I dont expect anything different in 2012...
zeemike
(18,998 posts)He was just trying to do what was right....it was the software;s fault....people just made mistakes and are we not all human and make mistake?...he did not make the list some fallible person did...I can hear it all now.
And that is the problem...these assholes have insulated themselves from blame and personal responsibility...but have no problem telling others that they need personal responsibility.
There should be dozens of court cases against this...but I have yet to see one.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)To do exactly what is written in the specifications. What they are doing in Florida makes absolutely no sense on any level. In fact, it is guaranteed to identify people whose only "crime" is moving. And that means mostly people who rent. Who are the renters? People in the lower income groups that vote mostly Democratic. People of color.
Incredibly, Florida is saying that if your address on the voter registeration rolls is different that your address on your drivers license you are suspected of being in this country illegally for voting purposes. Well the law requires you to reregister to vote when you move but prohibits you from getting a new drivers license when you move within the State until just prior to your old 5-year license expiring. Also, since we are dealing with a difference in address, which address does the State send the notification to? Does Florida give a rationale for such obviously flawed methodology? I havn't heard it if they have.
In 2000 Florida used a felon list from other States to match names in Florida. One documented case showed a name from Texas caused 32 people with the same name in Florida to be purged. They didn't even have to have the same date of birth. And none of the 32 was that man from Texas. Sham matches like these have to be outlawed at the federal level. Besides, current law is preventing illegal people from registering in the first place and that is where the emphasis belongs anyway.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But this will be their defense if challenged...that is what they did last time...they blamed it on the software company and it was out of state...they always have a plausibie deniability story ready
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)It is unclear when this is not true, people here are still occasionally being arrested for keeping slaves...
CanonRay
(14,085 posts)I've been critical of him in the past, and he has lots of defenders here at D.U., apparently because of the belief that any Obama appointee must be good, despite evidence to the contrary (see Dept of Interior, Dept of Education, etc.) But this guy just plain sucks as Attorney General.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... Holder has hardcore criminals to deal with...
... like 78 yo pot smoking cancer patients.
You don't really expect that worthless turd to walk and chew gum at the same time do you?
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)..behind the curtain... pulling the stings... with their new litle puppet Marco Rubio doing the legwork.
Flordia Gov pRick Scott looked in a mirror.. there was no reflection?
elleng
(130,741 posts)SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)KaryninMiami
(3,073 posts)Between the purging and rigged machines, (and the billions that will be pouring in to turn our purple state red) I am very concerned about what will happen in Nivember. Help is very badly needed- here and also in Ohio.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)This article has much more:
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/27/when-you-cant-win-cheat-election-fraud-from-coast-to-coast/
When You Cant Win Cheat: Election Fraud From Coast To Coast
May 27, 2012
By Wendy Gittleson
Look for election fraud and voter suppression to be an overriding theme in this years Presidential election, even if its underreported in the mainstream media. Nearly six months before the election, we are already seeing local and statewide efforts to purge the voter rolls of Democratic voters.
In an effort to clear the voter rolls of non-citizens, Floridas Governor, Rick Scott is targeting Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters by sending them notices informing that without proof of citizenship, they will not be eligible to vote. According to the Tampa Bay Times, out of the more than 2,600 people that have been sent the notices, White people and Republicans were the least likely to have been targeted. The Times found .............
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I bet there isn't ONE non-citizen registered to vote in this group!!
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Hispanics, Democrats biggest groups on Florida's list of potential noncitizen voters, analysis shows
By Marc Caputo and Patricia Mazzei, Miami Herald
In Print: Sunday, May 13, 2012
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/hispanics-democrats-biggest-groups-on-floridas-list-of-potential/1229860
MIAMI Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida's voting rolls, a Miami Herald computer analysis of elections records has found.
Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal, the analysis of a list of more than 2,600 potential noncitizens shows. The list was first compiled by the state and furnished to county election supervisors and then the Herald.
The numbers change by the day. The state's Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn't have the most-updated information.
About 58 percent of those identified as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, ......
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DallasNE
(7,402 posts)By law you cannot renew your 5-year drivers license until just before it expires. Besides, I have never had to provide anything except my old license to get a new license so when would they ever have proof of citizenship other than the very first time you get a license. There is an old saying that you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. That is exactly what Florida is attempting to do hear. Besides, "credible and reliable" is a slippery slope when they go out of their way to ensure that it is neither credible nor reliable. The Tampabay article did not specify the program code for the match criteria, nor the specifications provided to the programmers. (Since this is farmed out the program code is probably hidden behind proprietary laws, which is another crock. Why a FOI request could not be used to obtain the specifications is unclear).
lovelyrita
(241 posts)We have:
Voter ID laws that make it more difficult to vote for students, minorities, and the poor. (Plus anyone who has recently moved which is a lot of people in our transient state with this economy where lots of people have lost their homes.)
They reduced the amount of time to early vote including getting rid of the Sunday before the election where many African Americans voted after church.
New laws about registering voters which include huge fines. This has forced groups like the League of Women Voters to stop registering voters in Florida.
Now we have a voter roll purge.
This needs to be in the national news more because all of these things add up to the GOP trying to steal the election.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)a victory from the People.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)By Judd Legum on May 27, 2012 at 10:44 am
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/27/491012/exclusive-florida-ineligible-to-vote/?mobile=nc
Florida Governor Rick Scott (R) has ordered the state to purge all non-citizens from the voting rolls prior to Novembers election. But that list compiled by the Scott administration is so riddled with errors that, in Miami-Dade County alone, hundreds of U.S. citizens are being told they are ineligible to vote, ThinkProgress has learned exlusively.
According to data from the Miami-Dade County Supervisor of Elections obtained by ThinkProgress:
- 1638 people in Miami-Dade County were flagged by the state as non-citizens and sent letters informing them that they were ineligible to vote.
- Of that group, 359 people have subsquently provided the county with proof of citizenship........
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You can see a similar letter sent to alleged non-citizens by the Broward County Supervisor of Elections ................
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Voting-while-liberal, definition: Forced to request an administrative hearing to present evidence disputing the determination of the State of Florida in order to vote!
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Meet Maureen Russo: An Eligible Florida Voter Governor Rick Scott Just Purged From The Voting Rolls
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/25/490678/eligible-florida-voter-governor-rick-scott-purged/
By Judd Legum on May 25, 2012
Maureen Russo was born in Akron, Ohio. For the last 40 years shes operated a dog boarding and grooming business Bobbis World Kennels with her husband in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Maureen is 60 years old and has been a registered voter in the state for the last four decades. She regularly votes at the church around the corner from her home.
Two weeks ago she received a letter from the State of Florida informing her that they had received information that she was not born in this country and, therefore, was ineligible to vote.
She was given an option to request an administrative hearing to present evidence disputing the determination of the State of Florida ..........
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ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)is and has been the problem. Unless someone steps in and puts a stop to their shit, they'll continue to get more blatant about it.
VOTER fraud in the US is statistically non-existent.
ELECTION fraud however, is rampant, and I daresay all the propaganda about "voter fraud" is just a damn distraction from that fact.
Contact the DOJ here: http://www.justice.gov/contact-us.html
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)who are constantly telling us about how 2A protects the other 26, and how SYG laws are so wonderful, will be at the polling places and invoke SYG against the obstructionists. These bullies are not going to be deterred by scolding and tongue-clicking.
progressoid
(49,951 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)once the last pot smoker is has been tracked down and out in prison, Sleepy might think about enforcing the Voting Rights Act.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)will be able to make heads or tails out of it so the RepubliCONS will call in their fix it men - the US Supreme Court.
So, will Americans silently sit and let the dancing fools who call themselves Supreme Court Justices mutilate democracy yet again?
if anything was going to be done by the citizenry, it would have been done in 2000, 2002, or 2004.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)And the media will make it a non-event so those outside of Florida never hear how bad it is.
I wonder how many Americans could even tell you how many justices sit on the Court?
paparush
(7,964 posts)A disinformation campaign designed to convince the masses that the election is close makes the election that much easier to steal. Bastards.
arthritisR_US
(7,283 posts)DFW
(54,302 posts)This is a civil rights case, and so definitely in the scope of the Federal Government. This case is of the same national importance as the civil rights cases of the 1950s and 1960s. It is nothing less than the murder of our system of choosing our elected representatives.
A Justice Department that takes no action in this case is not deserving of the label.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...I'm sure they'd be on it arresting everyone in sight, in a heartbeat.
K&R
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)this DoJ might actually arrest the folks who complain about having their right to vote rescinded.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)It might hurt the GOP's widdle feelings, and make them sad. Can't have that!!!
Madmiddle
(459 posts)what I've seen is Eric Holder is afraid to step in and do anything, because he's black. I think that fact would be used against him as reverse bigotry. Why doesn't he step in and do something. It's the same thing that happened after Gore's presidential votes were stolen from him, nothing happened. Where's the media from both sides in this. If nothing is done about this it can only mean one thing; we know longer have a democracy in this country, and it's every man for himself.
tcaudilllg
(1,553 posts)and these mafia governors should be killed for denying it.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)By Steve Benen = Tue May 29, 2012
It's hardly a secret that Florida, home to 29 up-for-grabs electoral votes, will be one of the key 2012 battlegrounds. It's the nation's largest swing state, and whoever wins Florida will have an inside track to winning the White House.
Republicans in the Sunshine State, however, aren't taking any chances, and are already taking steps to tilt the playing field.
Ari Berman has already documented many of the new voting restrictions approved by GOP policymakers over the last couple of years, including cracking down on voter-registration drives and limiting the number of days available for early voting.
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