I Just Came To Say I Love You & Good-Bye

[Catherina]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by cyberswede (a host of the General Discussion forum).

& also to say goodbye.

I'm sorry but I'm done trying to swim through so much swill of neoliberalism and, worse, neoconservatism.

I'm done.

& PS
a BIG FAT FUCK YOU to the assholes who defended our war crimes in Libya and got all *pragmatic* about them.
a BIG FAT FUCK YOU , hah, <redacted because the list is too god damn long>

The rest of you, the ones on the left, I love you and just please jeep moving LEFT.

Please turn off my account immediately and permanently.

[cyberswede]

1. Maybe take a break & come back later?

[99th_Monkey]

2. I have days like that ..

sometimes a string of them.

My heart goes out to you Catherina, be well, stay safe .. and please come back whenever
you may feel up to it down the road.

[Catherina]

30. Thank you but this is more than a day

This is millions of lives wasted and/or destroyed for assholes.

Done with it.

Not in a MILLION years will I vote for Hillary Clinton either.

There... all the excuses DU neolibs need to ban me. DO IT FUCKING ALREADY YOU WAR LOVING COWARDS.

[djean111]

74. I do not think that quitting DU is the equivalent of not doing anything at all. n/t

[MADem]

145. Ha ha ha! You're not gonna get your wish that way!!

You're going to have to go the "Walt Starr" route.

Find an admin and direct a vile and offensive post directly at him--if you really are serious, that is, and aren't just posing.

See what you did with that post? You managed to get one of your allies, who responded to you, a HIDE. I don't think you meant to do that, but all you're doing is hurting your own team with your personal display of pique.

[sabrina 1]

176. Walt Starr is a geat poster on Daily Kos. And elsewhere so not sure what that means.

[MADem]

183. Walt Starr was probably "the" most famous tombstone in the History of DU.

March 11, 2006--a day that will live in "famy!"



For your edification and elucidation:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2507034


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=104823

[sabrina 1]

190. I know, he asked to be banned. He moved on and as I told you, since you seemed to think it was the

end of his political world, he moved on to a larger audience, as no doubt, Catherina will do and so many others have who have moved on from DU. Some have achieved success on radio, on tv, on larger forums etc. It's not the end of the world to move on from DU.

Why did you think I was not aware of Walt Starr's request to be banned?

Just wanted to provide you with information you were unaware of.

It's a big internet and people can now choose where they can do best for whatever their political cause may be.

I think it's great.

No doubt we well continue to read Catherina's work elsewhere. Like many others, she apparently felt the need to move forward.

[MADem]

195. Do you always take things out of context and come up with scenarios that are congruent

with your thoughts, and your thoughts alone?

Who said anything about "...the end of his political world?"

Answer--YOU. And you alone.


Just wanted to provide you with information you were unaware of.




This poster has asked to be, in essence, tombstoned. The only way that is going to happen is if she pitches the shitfit to end all shitfits and gets so many hides in short and rapid order that the admins decide to act against her, or if she confronts--as Walt Starr did--an admin directly with some sort of rudeness or invective. After all, the admins have said they can toss anyone of us over the side if they don't like us. This IS a private website. With a ToS, too.

All snarking and saying "fuck" and tossing direct insults at Clinton supporters is going to get her is five hides and a time-out. To have one's account devolved down to NAME REMOVED status, she's gonna have to do better than that. That's ALL I'm saying here. Not sure how or why you, in your imagination, believe otherwise.

But you go on with your suppositions about what you imagine other people are thinking. They've no basis in reality, but they do no real harm.

[sabrina 1]

200. Thanks for kicking the thread. I take things as I read them. A lot of people seem to

'take things out of context' re your posts. Maybe it's not everyone else? Your statement was what it was. I simply provided you with info you clearly didn't have.

[MADem]

204. You didn't do a very good job of reading what I wrote, that's for sure!

You make assumptions not in evidence as to what I knew, too. But how nice of you to "volunteer" to edify me. And to volunteer your curious little opinion about how you (and you alone) believe that unnamed "a lot of others" view my comments. Aren't you a little "discussion board bundler!" You aggregate everyone's views, and so helpfully pass them on!





Here's another kick for the thread--not sure why you want it kicked, like you assume some sort of 'ownership' of it, but whatever. It's certainly a case study in something--just not quite sure what. It doesn't come close to Walt Starr's opus.

[Unknown Beatle]

199. Jury Results

I voted to LEAVE IT ALONE.



On Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:44 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Thank you but this is more than a day
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366758

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling the DU admins "neolibs" and "fucking war loving cowards" would appear to be a personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:57 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Can't see why would need to be alerted on at all
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why hide if she's leaving anyway. I say, let her rant, we all need to cuss and let it all out once in a while, maybe not always on DU, but we all need to occasionally let it all hang out.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[bunnies]

3. Noooooooooooo!

Not you too!!!

[nashville_brook]

10. who else?

[sabrina 1]

68. Most of the democrats who MADE this site it seems. The ones people come here to read, they

sure don't come to read that divisive nasty stuff that has become prevalent here lately. I expect more people will be moving on to other venues where they dont' have to contend with the trolling and other non Democratic nonsense that gets a pass here lately.

Well, it was once a great place to actually discuss issues. But a small group has caused a lot of good Democrats to not want to waste their time here.

[Stryder]

135. Yeah,

The discourse here has taken a hard turn to the shit in a hurry.
I can't keep up with the drama.
Just an every day reader,seldom poster.
(Someone usually says what I'm thinking better than I can.)
I'd hate to see DU go south. But everything seems to be these days.
Anyway, feel the Bern
It ain't just "His turn."

[sabrina 1]

184. Everything has its season. Partisan forums like this are becoming more like the comment section

of Utube, unfortunately. But on the good side, it's a far bigger internet now than it was back when DU was a great place for Democrats to go. So plenty of places for people who care about ISSUES to go to advocate and engage in activism for their candidate.

#FeelTheBern

[bunnies]

210. Thank you for answering so much better than I would have.

[plus5mace]

4. I enjoyed your posts.

Good luck out there. Maybe I'll see you again at some other forum out there.

[Catherina]

45. Thanks plus5mace

Twitter handle is @catherina21215

Warning. All HRC propagandists and pathetic "Bernie But" assholes MUTED & BLOCKED.

[Samantha]

84. Hey, I am sorry to see you go and I hope you resurface here again

I understand exactly how you feel. But I have been here since 2001, and I am not going to let anyone or any group make me leave. I love the essence of DU just not the invaders. Take care, and I hope to hear from you again. We need you on our side.

Regards,

Sam

[yuiyoshida]

90. hey Cath! Added you

please add me as well, onegaishimasu! https://twitter.com/yuiyoshida1987

[sabrina 1]

5. It has become very difficult to watch Democrats getting on board with

with neocon/liberal policies.

Lots of silence on Libya since it was turned into a futuristic Mad Max scenario, as many of us predicted it would be. And no calls to help the victims of the NATO invasion of that African Nation.

Not a word about the murdering of civilians, rapes and torture that has driven so many out of their once relatively advanced nation now in tatters thanks to that invasion.

I don't blame you a bit Catherina. Lots of people are moving on to other venues where there is no tolerance necessary for the warmongering whether it be from Dems or Repubs.

[haikugal]

32. Totally...+ a million!

[bigwillq]

6. Bye, Felicia.

[Ed Suspicious]

28. WTF is wrong with you?

[sabrina 1]

33. Good question. But I know Catherina will be sadly missed!

[Catherina]

50. Have no idea. Lots of pretend Bernie supporters, fake Liberals crawling out

I say we lay more roach bait.

[randys1]

79. Pretend Bernie Supporters? Who are they?

That is a new one I think.

Up until now it is Bernie supporters vs Hillary supporters, I thought.

[rhett o rick]

169. You can't be that naive. The Cave has launched an all out attack. Sign up as a Sanders

support and then say horrible things about Clinton to discredit Sanders supporters. Childish and pathetic.

[MADem]

186. This actually makes me happy. It explains a lot.

I couldn't believe that so many intolerant asses were coming here and calling themselves "progressives" when they were anything but. I was beginning to think that the so-called left wing of the Democratic Party was going full-bore "Fuck the Government" Tea Party Leftish.

I've looked askance at some of these alleged Sanders supporters, but if this is a targeted effort, well, I will keep my jaundiced eye at the ready.

[sabrina 1]

192. Lol, me too. But it isn't Sanders supporters that runs that new cave.

[MADem]

196. I don't think the referenced Cave is new. They've been around for years--they took out Andy. nt

[merrily]

233. Not only the Cave, and no, randys1, is not that naive.

[delrem]

171. I figured that one would stump you.

1st on the list of those who'd say "I don't get it"...

Maybe you should think about it a bit, and what it means.

[merrily]

232. Really, randys1? You never heard of that before? Perhaps I did not make myself as clear as I

usually do, then. Could have sworn I did, though.

[nxylas]

39. That's how the right-wing mind works

For them, this represents the strong overcoming the weak, something right-wingers get off on.

[bigwillq]

86. Nothing. Just cracking a joke with all these goodbye threads.

No one ever seems to leave when they say they will. Bye, Felicia.

[Purveyor]

36. I had to look up the 'bye Felicia' thing and this is what I found:

bye felicia

When someone says that they're leaving and you could really give two shits less that they are. Their name then becomes "felicia", a random bitch that nobody is sad to see go. They're real name becomes irrelevant because nobody cares what it really is. Instead, they now are "felicia".

I'm saddened you had to 'go there' but it reflects more on your character than anything else.

[Catherina]

51. Thanks for researching that. What an asshole lol.

Exactly why I'm done with this place.

Assholes like that come into threads and derail them while the Clinton-supporting admin smiles approvingly.

[bigwillq]

97. But you're still here.

Hi!

[sabrina 1]

158. Yes, she is one of the most popular posters here. So naturally people want to say how

much they have appreciated her contributions to this site over the years. She and others like are WHY people come here. They sure don't come to read the nasty, snarky one-line wonders. The site will die when that is all that is left here.

[niyad]

66. and whoever wrote that doesn't know the difference between "their" and "they're"? annoying.

[passiveporcupine]

147. just one of those things we all do,

especially if we don't proof and edit after writing. I know the difference and can't tell you how many times I've slipped up. I usually proof and catch my mistakes, but the older I get the more slip through. This writer used the correct word twice previously, so they do "know" how to use it.

Grammar police can be pretty damned annoying as well. YMMV

[bigwillq]

125. I say that phrase to my friends.

It's called a joke.

[JonLeibowitz]

213. A nasty joke that reflects directly on the one saying it. Please don't bring that crap to DU. n/t

[bigwillq]

214. Ok, Dad.

Bye, Felicia.

[JonLeibowitz]

218. I'm still staying around, to call out the BS that abounds.

Nice try though!

[bigwillq]

221. As you should!

[Bubzer]

126. Lovely... personal attacks are the the order of the day appearantly.

[JDPriestly]

207. Yes. Nasty posts mostly reflect on the person who posts them.

[ColesCountyDem]

69. *has no hides* ^^^^^^^ This +10000!

[bigwillq]

102. Yay! I'm a shitworm.

Thanks, Lizzie!

[darkangel218]

58. Seriously?? What a shitty thing to say!

[bigwillq]

87. Aww, so sad that no one has a sense of humor.

Bye, Felicia.

[Live and Learn]

92. Because it is not funny. In fact, it is rather disgusting and assinine nt.

[bigwillq]

94. Some folks make quite the living off those jokes.

It is what it is. Someone is always offended by something.

[Live and Learn]

103. As boorish as your posts are coming off, I suggest you don't quit your day job. nt

[bigwillq]

112. Bwah!

Good one. See, jokes are fun. ,

[sabrina 1]

81. The OPs name is Catherina! Are you in the wrong thread?

[bigwillq]

82. Naw. It's a joke. Lighten up.

[senz]

118. She is one of the best.

You were lucky to have been around her for awhile.

[bigwillq]

121. Never said she wasn't.

Just cracking fun of the goodbye posts.

[ScreamingMeemie]

134. As is bigwillq...and this is his standard reply in Good-Bye threads.

I've known bigwillq since we made a pact that I would come visit him with my family if Dean won the primaries...

If I were to post an "I'm leaving DU today" thread tomorrow...guess what bigwillq would reply with?

If you answered "Bye Felicia," you'd be right.

We really take ourselves way too seriously on this site.

Have a nice weekend.

[bigwillq]

136. Bye, Felicia.

"We really take ourselves way too seriously on this site."

Sentence of the century.

[delrem]

177. I understand, but the repetitions and so on are coming off as nasty.

And the issues are serious.
Not funny.

[bigwillq]

216. DU is one big repetition.

Not that that's a bad thing.
It's joke. You may not think it's funny, but it's a joke. Folks need to lighten up and not take a message board that seriously.

[delrem]

238. That tells me how to take posts authored "bigwillq".

And I will.

I take posts from many others with more gravity.
For me DU is also a place of learning.
I don't like it that Catherina is saying goodbye, and I don't like it that I understand her reasons and think she's probably making the best decision, for herself, for her development as a person.

I see a complete fracturing of the Democratic Party, as expressed on DU.
But it's an asymmetric fracture. On one side is $money$, $war$, $MSM$, $war-profiteering$. There's no war atrocity that these fuckers wouldn't sign onto. No plundering of natural resources, or of people who might get in the way. On the other side is a people with no established power, yet being the most sizable population by far.

Catherina is on the good side of that split.

That's one reason why I don't think your derision is funny.

[Trajan]

151. Thanks for revealing your ugly side

Gone

[bigwillq]

152. Bye, Felicia.

[think]

7. Wishing you peace & joy wherever you may roam. Hope you'll change your mind

but completely understand.

[Catherina]

43. Thank you & please, PLEASE, keep up the fight!

RESIST!

Even as an exploited little Black boy whose life doesn't matter in the neoliberal game of rich US Black neoliberals all too willing to exploit poorer Blacks, RESIST!!!!!







SOLIDARITY!

[darkangel218]

62. +1

[senz]

100. Dear Catherina, someone actually alerted on this.

But the jury had better sense.

On Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Thank you & please, PLEASE, keep up the fight!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366811

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

" rich US Black neoliberals all too willing to exploit poorer Blacks" racist bullshit,leave AAs out of your public temper tantrum!!

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:54 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Easy to refute. Why hide?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I am not only leaving the alerted on post, but alerting on the results to admin so they can see the nasty alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Understand the alerters concern, overstepping
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Passionate concern for oppressed and exploited people is very Democratic.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Live and Learn]

115. Not too hard to guess who that alerter might be. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

194. Yep.

If you haven't had a full-throated, complete non-sequitur attack coming out of absolutely nowhere from this person you haven't been on DU long enough. I put her on Ignore a long time ago.

[BeanMusical]

219. +1

[senz]

161. Cathernia said to thank the jury for this decision

as she was already locked out due to another alert.

Alerting on someone who is leaving seems a bit redundant. Guess that's what serial alerters do...

[sabrina 1]

185. Good jury result!

[arcane1]

8. It's getting pretty tough to deal with indeed.

[Catherina]

59. It is indeed and I have a special message for you

my sis thought you were amazing & wonderful. You won't remember me, I came on on one of the DU antiwar marches in 2002. I was very young at the time but most impressed with people who took their citizen commitment that seriously. You were dressed as Jesus with a sign that said "Who Would Jesus Bomb".

After the march we went to a bar and I dance to 50 cent PIMP and asked you to dance with me. You wouldn't lol, preferring to sit at the bar with Terwilliger.

HellHathNoFury and WillyT were there.

For further details, contact Noiretextatique. She's coming to visit me soon.

[arcane1]

166. Ah, I don't remember being asked to dance, but I'm not surprised I declined. I always do :)

You'll be missed here!

[R B Garr]

9. Conspiracy theories aren't neoliberalism.

They are just conspiracy theories.

You have your friends here, so I don't want to interfere with this thread. Good luck. I'm just tired of seeing good people maligned by those who abuse people here with the silly name calling because they dont buy into BIG FAT conspiracies.

[sabrina 1]

13. Libya wasn't a CT, it as real and many of us here were 'maligned' for opposing it. Including

the OP. Just as we were maligned for opposing Iraq and for opposing interference in Syria or any other of the PNAC list of nations to destroy. And that too is not a CT.

So I get why Democrats who predicted the results of all these Imperial interventions, it's been 15 years of it now, so we have seen the horrors they have caused, have become disgusted to see their own party which we thought might be the end of the Cheney/Bush FP going along with any of it.

However your post was polite and that is appreciated.

[Depaysement]

149. And a certain someone should apologize for his huge role

in promoting the Libyan War here. Note that the warmongers never face the consequences. Wounded warriors do.

Your post was excellent, Sabrina.

[Blue_In_AK]

11. I'll miss your posts, Catherina,

but I sympathize with why you don't want to be here right now. I have difficulty myself some days.

[Catherina]

60. I'll kinda miss it but too neolib & hypocritical for me

Total joke of a site these days.

[Prism]

12. Be well

I'll just note, the little clique that stalked you and called you a self-loathing black woman while snickering amongst themselves are still kicking around with their nonsense. I'd say they should be ashamed, but that word is not particularly in their vocabulary.

No one needs that shit in their lives. If leaving is what is best for you to find peace, by all means do so. I often walk away for weeks at a time, because there's no real enjoyment derived from rolling in the mud. At least, not for well-adjusted people.

I've greatly enjoyed your contributions here. Wherever you land, I hope it's what you're looking for.

[Catherina]

27. Prism, I love you so much. Has nothing to do with that hateful stupid clique

DU has simply become a total waste of time where the admins expect us Leftist posters to build the illusionary content, while contentless neolib assholes who whitewash our crimes against humanity and path to blow up this earth, tear it down.

Naw fuck it, I'm done.

It's been too disgusting to watch.

Sick of looking like I'm even on the same continent as those war-loving neolib assholes.

[haikugal]

37. You will be missed Catherina.

I wish you all the best and hope we meet again..

[Catherina]

64. Thank you Haikugal

Come on twitter. See you there where assholes aren't even allowed into your space.

Solidarity

[haikugal]

117. I'll try it again...

Thanks.

[nationalize the fed]

71. + a few billion

You're one of the few still worth reading. You'll be missed.

Sick of looking like I'm even on the same continent as those war-loving neolib assholes.

Exactly. I'm looking at exile too. It's been disgusting to see this Obama turn what was left of liberals into fans of drone bombing, corporate insurance, fracking, big bank bailouts and on and on. There really is no "left" anymore, just a bunch of personality fans. Keep on staying true to yourself- it's a rare sight these days.

Good Luck and NGU

[nashville_brook]

14. i have to say, no don't go.

don't give anyone that satisfaction.

i'll miss you.

[DirkGently]

15. Take a break, then c'mon back, please.

Your DU voice is much-appreciated in some corners. Don't leave the forum to our worst influences.

[panader0]

16. We need you here--Please don't leave.

[Catherina]

75. Have to darling. Love you but I hate, loathe those war-loving

imperialist apologizing neolibs. I don't want them anywhere near my space anymore.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

17. ...

[sabrina 1]

180. You're leaving too? Well, 'bye then!

[dreamnightwind]

18. PM me where to find your posts if you leave

I hope you change your mind and don't leave, but if you must (and I understand, I feel much the same but still feel it's worth the fight) then I'd like to know where you are posting so I can still read your posts, you're one of the best posters around here from my perspective. Take care.

[ismnotwasm]

20. K&R

[ileus]

21. adios

[TSIAS]

22. Good luck

Hope you reconsider.

[ornotna]

23. I'll be seeing you

Take care.

[ladjf]

29. What a beautiful song! nt

[Catherina]

44. Love you and thank you...

[magical thyme]

24. Please consider a break, liberal use of the ignore and thread-trash buttons and

and reconsider. So many of us will miss your voice and intellect...

[Cal Carpenter]

25. I love you too!!

And I totally understand.

I'd say more but I want to get IBTL~!

[darkangel218]

26. I hope to see you back.

[MissDeeds]

31. So understandable

There is very little that is "Democratic" about DU these days. It's an echo chamber for HRC.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

34. So long, Catherina. I will miss your contribution. This place has become a DUmp and it's not...

...worth giving up the moments of your life if you're not happy here.

Gentle journeys in life, friend.

[snagglepuss]

35. Very saddened to read this. Your voice will be sorely missed.

[restorefreedom]

38. Catherina, i always loved your posts and comments

you're one of the good ones.

be well and if you change your mind, many will be happy to see you back.

namaste

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. Later!

[rhett o rick]

187. Another progressive bullied off the site. Gloat while you can. Sooner or later the 99%

will rise and strike down your 1% heroes.

[Tarheel_Dem]

197. "Rhet-o-ric" aside, I sure wish you'd freshen up those stale talking points.

[rhett o rick]

228. As I said gloat while you can, sooner or later the People will prevail over

your friends the billionaires. I hate to break it to you, they don't love you.

[pnwmom]

236. This progressive got mad because she got a post hidden. Deservedly,

because it contained call-outs on two DUers who weren't there to defend themselves.

So she appeared to be the person doing the bullying, not the other way around.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128076341

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366927

[Ed Suspicious]

41. You are a member whose posts are among those I most look forward to reading. I HATE to see you go.

[CaptainTruth]

42. I know how you feel.

But I'm not walking away, DU is still a great source of news, & 'toons, & I always look forward to Sunday LOLCats!

I've just decided to not wade into the cesspool, just leave it alone. If I want to debate anyone I'll go to twitter & load my "right wing" list. That's always good for a laugh. Or a cry ...
@TruthTeamOne

[MisterP]

46. stay here! we have booze! nt

[dorkzilla]

47. Just take a break, enjoy the holidays, take care of yourself

But don’t let them win. We’ve got to wrestle this party back to the left, you’re dead right, and we need people like you to help us.

And if you need to blow off some steam you can always PM your BFF’s here. No one HERE wants you to go.

[Trajan]

48. I was rather despondent at the Hillary supporters attacks on us a few months ago

Then I discovered the ignore button ..

It's been a veritable orgy of ignore, casting mean ass liars over the gunwales by the hundreds ...

My DU experience was definitely improved ...

[jwirr]

108. Me to.

[Purveyor]

49. Of course you know I'll miss you and your posts. Not sure

how much longer it will be worth posting anything in this joint.

Pretty much a wreak, it has become.

Take care and godspeed.

[JimDandy]

178. I agree. N/t

[TIME TO PANIC]

52. stick around

I'm new here, but I've been lurking for a few months and I've always respected what you had to say.

[femmedem]

53. I don't post much, but I've been here a long time and always appreciated your posts.

I understand, though selfishly I hope you'll reconsider.

I'm disgusted with Democrats who don't seem like Democrats, too.

My own democratic Congressman here in the liberal northeast voted to close the doors to Syrian and Iraqi refugees. That Congressman then called a local Muslim activist to reassure him that the bill didn't really have any teeth or add new restrictions; it was symbolic. So he voted that way not even in a misguided attempt to keep Americans safer, but to take a symbolic anti-Muslim refugee stand? That's supposed to be reassuring?

And I have another friend who knows Link Chafee, who was the sole Republican to vote against the Iraq War. Chafee said if you studied it, it was clear that the Iraq war was based on lies. He said Clinton didn't care. Just didn't care at all. That's why he briefly ran for president; he was appalled that she'd go to war for political expediency. He, on the other hand, lost the backing of his political party with that vote...he was willing to lose his career rather than go to war over lies. And he comes from a military family; his father was a WWII hero.

Yeah. I understand where you're coming from. Love to you, too. I'll miss you.

[Scootaloo]

54. Wish you weren't going, but can't particularly blame you.

Be sure to wear clean socks and never eat anything bigger than your head.

[bbgrunt]

55. Many hugs to you Catherina. Please take a break and

return. Your voice is truly appreciated here by MANY. We need more like you.

[Duppers]

57. damn sorry to see You go!

My ignore list must be 700 to 800+ now, so I keep reading.

Politics has become a sewer, even here. We just have to ignore the turds.

Here's hoping you'll be back.

[sarge43]

61. Catherina, take a well deserved break and then consider joining us again.

We need you.

[ScreamingMeemie]

67. Be well

[Marrah_G]

70. Goodbye Darling Catherina

I will miss you

[stupidicus]

73. come back when you can stay longer

I don't know you but can empathize with the attitude

[edgineered]

76. Your expressed views are an asset to this place and are appreciated. nt

[Ilsa]

77. Come back after the darn primaries. Love you! nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

78. Oh no! You're one of my favorite posting people of DU

Consider taking a break and come back later.

Also the site improved a lot when I started making liberal use of the 'ignore' feature. It really makes a big difference, so you might want to try ignoring about 20 people. It's a totally different site that way.

[Old Codger]

80. Bad days

But liberal use of the ignore makes it somewhat easier to weather the storm... For the most part the only reason I am still hanging out here is to see what the idiots are going to do next.. makes me laugh and laughter helps keep me young

Hard to believe there are that many idjuts here..

[Divernan]

83. Fare thee well.

Safe journeys, wherever you may go. I plan to stick around until the primary election. That may require a boatload of anti-nausea meds. If HRC wins, I think this place will become a ghost town. All of us progressive, Bernie supporters are the force which drives the post count which supports DU and we will be long gone. If he is not the candidate, I have a number of progressive Democrats I'll campaign for at the federal and state level. DU will be irrelevant.

It was a great place with high ideals when we all started out.

All the best!

[sabrina 1]

99. Yes, and Bernie supporters do have better venues to promote their candidate without the

despicable attacks that are allowed to pass here. And you are correct, as more and more of DU's best writers, the ones people come here to read, leave, it will become a ghost town.

Sad to see another one leave. But I do understand.

[840high]

85. I will really miss you.

[azmom]

88. I will miss you so much, but I totally understand

Your decision. I just want you to know that I personally learned so much from your posts. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Take care.

Solidarity sister.

[MannyGoldstein]

89. No.

Please?

[abakan]

91. I understand completely..

I come here less and less. When I do, I usually read the news and skip the hatefest. Being here does not make me happy, anymore.

[misterhighwasted]

93. Hey, wait a minute..weren't you 'eloriel' in another DU life?

I may or may not be mistaken, just sayin.

[Live and Learn]

106. Hmmm, I have some guesses as to whom you may have been but,

I think I'll just keep those to myself since to come out and ask you would be pretty assholish. Just saying.

[misterhighwasted]

110. I've always been me.

[Fairgo]

137. You are a noble rock.

I am like a river, familiar but fluid. Life pours through me, a stream of experience, and in the mist of the moment, a fleeting name, "I am". I greet you as I pass, the one who stands unchanged, and in seeing your shadow I call out, "You are". You are a noble rock, an island that fills the negative space in my travels.

[markpkessinger]

95. Oh, no, not you too!

You are one of the folks who has helped keep me sane on this site! But if you feel you must go, I understand. Be well.

[Live and Learn]

96. Catherina, please, please don't leave completely.

Just use the ignore feature and stay in the Bernie group if necessary for a while. It really does help.

We really need your informative posts.

[N.Y. to Paris]

98. Shit!

I was just getting used to your stuff, and now you're leaving?
Double-shit! I miss you already...here's hoping you'll take a
deep breath and come back soon....you have to consider the
source on some of the vile comments and know they're not
saying anything anyway....they're protecting their queen.
WINNING..... is all that seems to matter to these people ....
polls, the nomination, war...doesn't matter...
it's the Hillary Police Squad, they scour this place and post
before any ink is dried.....
It used to be great around here, lots of humor, insight, really
good stuff...now it's turned into DEMOCRATIC BATTLEGROUND!
fuck em for sure, but again they have nothing to say from the
heart if they're in your face....if this gets jumped on...fine..I've
said my piece...I won't get into a pissing contest with anyone,
you want more of the same? vote for The Schmooze Queen...
You want change? You're gonna have to strap on some balls and
dig in...simple...and worth it to me....
Take Care Catherina...
hope to see you soon.....be well
4-3-2-1.....

[aikoaiko]

101. I hope you come back and soon.

I know you've taken a lot of hostility from some surprising quarters on DU that you didn't deserve.

I know you'll fight the good fight again when you're ready

[senz]

104. I'm going to miss you so badly, Catherina.

Whatever you do, I know it will be for the good of good people, and I know you will help Bernie. I am so grateful to have had exposure to your clear, honest, beautiful self. I'm so sorry the bad guys drove you off.



I hope you'll change your mind at some point. Please give your mom a hug from a Bernie supporter.

[INdemo]

105. She has a good point.

Republican Lites own DU now and the rest of us are continually pushed aside by a group that should be over on freerepublic.com.

[angrychair]

107. Good luck

And I wish you the very best. Your voice will be missed here.

[appalachiablue]

109. Your reasons are understandable and you'll be missed much.

I really enjoyed your posts and contributions. Things are changing here, it's quite challenging. Good luck and take care. Sounds like you're in excellent hands. At times it's very hard for me here.

[catchnrelease]

111. Oh Catherina!

I'm so sad to hear that you are leaving, but I completely understand. My ignore list has grown from zero to about 20 in the last month or so. You have been one of my favorite posters and I was delighted to find you were posting again recently. I have always learned so much from what you write. I don't use twitter but I just may have to start following you there. I have been looking for alternative sites for progressive news myself.

I hope that you will come back when we can celebrate Bernie's success in Nov of 1016!

[jwirr]

113. Catherina, I understand perfectly - was just on jury that

was so insulting of you that I did not even look at the circumstances. We vote 4-3 to hide and for good reasons.

I enjoy your post but you need to take care of yourself.

[Owl]

114. Sorry to see you go. Please come back sometime.

[Bubzer]

116. I feel your pain. I really really do.

I often want to scream in frustration at the people who just don't get it.

Ultimately, you have to do what's best for you, but don't give up okay?

[Phlem]

119. I hear that! The neoliberalism that mimics neoconservatism

Is not a choice at all.

Good on you but I'm sorry you're leaving. We need people like you. I've taken a break, but have noticed the right that represent the Democrats are just as determined as the conservatives in driving us all off a cliff. And to vote solely on the reason to have a woman in the white house is just fucking stupid.

[63splitwindow]

120. Gotta do what ya gotta do BUT here's REAL adversary...

[link:http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/politics-religion-and-controversy-88/|

[RiverLover]

122. I love you too Catherina! I've enjoyed your views & have learned from your posts.

I admire your resolve (& envy it too!).

Centrist/Conservative Underground is hard on us liberals.

Stay strong & Be well & may all the good energy coming your way bring you amazing good fortune & unexpected delights!

[BootinUp]

123. Cya. nt

[ucrdem]

124. People evolve. If Senator Sanders can become a Dem at age 74

Hillary can learn to solve conflicts diplomatically. The next few years are going to be very interesting and now that she's out of the woods I expect things will calm down a little here. Meanwhile vaya con dios and please return when you're ready.

[TM99]

127. Catherina

I know you are now locked out of this thread.

I completely understand where you are coming from. Our rage is growing. The neoliberalism is stronger than it ever has been. Clinton's facile facade of psuedo-progressivism is slipping after the Paris attacks.

I will see you on Twitter. Be strong, keep up the good fight, and drop me a line from time to time.

You are one of the great ones and will be missed.

[blackspade]

128. Take Care Catherina!

I feel the same way.
I'm about worn out with the bullshit around here.
I may have to take a break or leave.
This place has been a constant for me since 2000-2001 when I first discovered it.
It has gone off the cliff into conservative land.

I'm just tired.....

[Logical]

129. Don't leave, the idiots here that let terror scare them are a minority. Just call them out. nt

[MineralMan]

130. Bye.

[madfloridian]

132. .....

Been years and lots of rivers we've crossed once or twice. Hard to see the defense of policies that only a few short years ago belonged to the Bush Family and Republicans.

to big sis as well.

I think you should not close your account out, though.

[Paka]

133. Too many sad moments.

We are losing too many important voices, but I do understand your feelings. Keep fighting and don't forget we're here.

[tularetom]

139. I understand why you feel this way and I can't disagree with you

At the same time, I wish you would reconsider. We need all the help we can get around here and we can ill afford to lose even one of our strong voices.

Besides, a lot of things can change in a year. Or a month.

[bravenak]

140. Bye.nt

[MADem]

141. You have to turn off your own account--either walk away and forget your password,

or change your email address to some garbage email address AND change your password, and lock yourself out.

You're still on the membership rolls, in any event, even if you stop posting--it's like the Roach Motel up in here, you can check in, but it's harder to check out.

Unless you choose to post a few dozen really offensive posts (beyond the churlish "big fat fuck you" nonsense--that's just your own snarky pique, and nothing more) that get your posts hidden....of course nowadays, you'll have to get REALLY offensive (perhaps use a few banned terms) because it's amazing how many simply rude and crude comments are left to stand.

So--if you are SERIOUS, mind you-- let rip with a few B or C words, or maybe some slurs against a minority group, and you'll rack up those HIDES in no time, and then you'll be well and truly "turned off" from this place, "immediately and permanently."

If that's REALLY what you want, of course...

[bigwillq]

143. OP got locked out of own thread

Started a new one in the Bernie group. You can say your goodbyes there.

[MADem]

146. The poster is going to need to do a lot more than get five hides--that will only lock her out for

three months.

She needs to find an admin and do the "Walt Starr" routine on him.

[bigwillq]

148. Or OP can just stop posting

Instead of calling folks names and saying how much the site sucks. No one is forcing OP to post here. Just leave. Very Classy. Just leave. End of story.

[MADem]

154. I think GBCW posts say more about the poster than they realize, oftentimes.

This is one of those times...! (LOL).

[bigwillq]

155. I don't really care what it says about the poster.

I just get a chuckle out of them.

[Action_Patrol]

156. It's the Internet

People doing 'goodbye cruel world' posts aren't interested in anything but the attention or they would have just logged off and quit posting.

[bigwillq]

157. Congrats on 600 posts!

[Action_Patrol]

159. Only 66 more and I get my oven mitt!

[bigwillq]

160. They give out oven mitts?!?

Say what?.????

[Action_Patrol]

163. To be fair, you only get a service merchandise

Gift Certificate and it's either the oven mitt or the paper weight shaped liked Spiro Agnew.
I don't know about you but it's an easy choice.

[bigwillq]

164. Service Merchandise is still open??

Wow. The things you learn on the internets.

[MADem]

162. Yes indeedy....!!! Very good point!

[Action_Patrol]

165. You're my favorite.

If you were still in the DC area I'd buy you a beverage of your choice.

[MADem]

168. Awww!!!

[freshwest]

227. Wasn't there a famous thread where Skinner banned someone making that request?

Forgot who that was, do you remember it?

I keep thinking it was a guy named 'Ken Starr' but that can't be right. It was funny.

That might be the ticket for someone who wants their account suspended. The guy demanded Skinner ban him, then got profane with more demands, and finally, Skinner granted his wish.

The idea of just not posting to solve this problem seems odd. But there are websites where one has to ask to be removed by administrators.

DU isn't one. Skinner's solution is to change one's password to gibberish and not record it, thus one can't log in again. Not under that same name, anyway.

Bet that Skinner not deleting members helps with the site's ad revenue.

[MADem]

229. Walt Starr--I mentioned him elsewhere in this thread!

His departure was quite ... epic, as the kids say!

[RiverLover]

142. PS

Thank you for one KICK ASS goodbye!!!

[AngryAmish]

144. As your best friend and greatest advocate on this site, I am going to miss you.

Via con Dios.

[Depaysement]

150. I have posted here for over a decade

Mostly under a different plum de nom. I despise these goodbyes. But in your case I am sad and hope you will reconsider.

[merrily]

153. OMG, Catherina. I feel as though I was just getting to know you.

You are one of few posters whose recent posts I search out when I get to the board. What a huge loss!

I love you back However, you must do what is best for you. I wish you only good things in life and many of them.

[cwydro]

167. Somehow you were never on my radar.

But I come and go from here, so no doubt that goes both ways.

I'm sure we'll see you again.

Happy Holidays!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

170. You will be missed by those of us who return your love. K&R

[shanti]

172. You will be missed, Catherina

[joshcryer]

173. I'll never understand your irrational hatred toward me.

It really is borderline, the hidden post calling me and bravnek out, I'm in good company if I'm included with bravnek.

What I do suspect is you probably aren't the only one who hates me, literally seeths at my posts, and I think it's sad. Pitiful.

[bravenak]

217. I do not understand either. I do not know her.

I find this to be upsetting in a way. Nice to have a partner, though, even though I have no clue what we did to her.

[GusBob]

231. 3 things I don't think I have ever seen in a GBCW post

The poster requesting please turn off my account completely and immediately .......and then they keep posting.....

The poster get a hide in their own GBCW post.....and post in another forum. What is this the energizer bunny?

A call out of other posters without rhyme or reason

[SidDithers]

174. DU seriously needs a GBCW group...nt

Sid

[bravenak]

201. YES.

[Number23]

206. You do realize that you and joshcryer (one of the most decent guys here and who happens to be

a Sanders supporter) were called out BY NAME by the OP as being the reason for this little tantrum?

[bravenak]

208. Oh yeah. Funny cause I do not know her.

I have the strangest effect on people.

[Number23]

209. I'd take you and josh any day of the week and twice on Sunday

All day. Every day.

Just saying.

[SidDithers]

212. Absolutely. Without a freakin' doubt...

Sid

[bravenak]

215. Thank you. I'm glad at least a few people aren't blaming me for something.

I'd pick you over ALLLLLLL of them too. Today has been eye opening. Again. But this was VERY interesting.

[WillyT]

175. Don't You Dare... Why Let The Idiots Win ???

Please take a break...

It's the holidays... focus on family and friends...

Then come back and join us for the most important fight in our lifetimes.

[TBF]

179. Just sent you a request on Twitter -

I am on there again and sometimes remember to check it!

Third way ownership is not pretty ...

[closeupready]

181. I'll certainly miss your participation here, but I understand.

Consider yourself welcome to return at any time if you change your mind, as far as I'm concerned.

[pnwmom]

182. Sorry, but when you call out people who aren't even in a thread,

you deserve a hide. If you can understand that, upon thoughtful consideration, I hope you'll stay.

Otherwise . . .

[Texasgal]

188. Catherina..

I hope this is just a break and you come back. Just take some time to enjoy the holiday and do things that are important to you.

DU has become a really shitty place lately, but this too shall pass.

Take care and keep in touch?

[marym625]

189. What an incredible loss to us all

Don't blame you one tiny bit. The place is nothing like it used to be.

and see you in Twitter

[MrMickeysMom]

191. Catherina...

May I pose staying in both worlds. Unless this stuff literally is making you sick (thick skin here... long story), I would really hope you kept your account active.

The revolution will not be televised.... It will not be easy... I don't THINK it's supposed to be easy. Nothing worth fighting for EVER is.

Love,

MMM

[cherokeeprogressive]

193. Real GBCW posts are done with sadness...

You'll be back.

[MrMickeysMom]

198. See, Catherina... Juries can have brains...

On Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:44 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Thank you but this is more than a day
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366758

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling the DU admins "neolibs" and "fucking war loving cowards" would appear to be a personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:57 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Can't see why would need to be alerted on at all
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why hide if she's leaving anyway. I say, let her rant, we all need to cuss and let it all out once in a while, maybe not always on DU, but we all need to occasionally let it all hang out.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Generic Brad]

202. People on DU disagree with you?

I always thought DU was an acronym for "Disagree.....(something that begins with a "U&quot .

[Number23]

203. One of your most principled and coherent threads

Sadly.

[randome]

205. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT A MINUTE!

What does RT.com think?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[JEB]

211. I will miss reading your honest

and heartfelt posts. This place is diminished without your voice.

edit to add: I find the grave dancing beyond the pale, juvenile, insipid and rather Trump like.

[bravenak]

220. You and I do not talk so I have no idea how this is my fault.

[pnwmom]

224. It's your "fault" because she called you out in an unrelated thread

and got the post hidden.'

Apparently that was the last straw.

[bravenak]

225. That is amazing. I seriously had not really noticed her at all until this.

My goodness.

[pnwmom]

226. You didn't know you were that powerful?

[bravenak]

230. I'm only 5'1", but I am in better shape now since I work out more.

Kinda strong I think. Now I maybe feel stronger? Still find this confusing. Wow. Little old me? Powerful? This is sooo interesting, imo. Thank YOU!

How can I force somebody I did not know was here to leave? Man! Amazing.

[pnwmom]

234. Maybe it isn't you.

I was assuming the misspelling was a typo -- but maybe there's someone else who has a name almost but not quite like yours.



What do you think?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128076341

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366927

[bravenak]

237. That is definitely me, imo.

Too bad she got the date wrong on when I learned of BLM. It was after Trayvon that I first heard of them. I have no idea why the attack was necessary. So many terrible things said about me the past few days. Strangly enough it is by people I barely know or talk to.

[malaise]

222. I'm going to miss you big time

Hope you reconsider

[BeanMusical]

223. I will miss you.

[one_voice]

235. Wow..so according to your...

Twitter feed...Obama is a piece of shit murderer and Putin is a perfect gentleman.

Yeah, he's a real sweetheart:

Putin: Russia must "cleanse" itself of homosexuality

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/putin-russia-must-cleanse-itself-of-homosexuality/

He bathes in blood every night....

[bravenak]

239. OMG.