How many people forget this??????

[Logical]

[guillaumeb]

1. Far too many in both parties. eom

[Martin Eden]

2. Not "Every time" ... I haven't forgotten Sandy Hook.

Something really bad happened there, and nothing was done.

The unfettered "liberty" to firearms can impact the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Yes, I know, the OP was about abuses by the national security state. I'm with you there.

But some memes aren't entirely logical.

[Logical]

3. Well, unless be ban and collect all firearms you cannot prevent a lone nut. Sorry to say. nt

[Martin Eden]

4. The best course of action is not all or nothing.

I agree that massacres by lone nuts cannot be totally prevented, but the gun control issue is much broader than that. I live in Chicagoland, and many of the guns used to commit crimes in "Chi-raq" come across the Indiana border from straw buyers at gun shows. Reducing the sheer proliferation made possible by lax laws will save lives.

But the reason for my post was not to debate the very complicated, difficult, contentious issue of gun control.

It was mostly to point out that sometimes when really bad things happen in this country, virtually nothing is done.

Too often, the American people are manipulated into fearing things that are very low on the list of actual threats to us personally.

[Logical]

7. Good points! nt

[Donald Ian Rankin]

9. Yes, that's essentially what you should do. It works well here in the UK. N.T.

[Logical]

10. he UK is more sane than we are. nt

[HuckleB]

5. The problem there is bigger, and it happens every day.

[Logical]

6. So true! Nt

[geek tragedy]

8. About that Ben Franklin quote

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century