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Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:40 PM Nov 2015

Christmas is a charade': Pope says.....more....

REPUBLICANS ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR SH*T – POPE FRANCIS CALLED CHRISTMAS A ‘CHARADE’ – READ WHY

Well, you knew it was coming. The annual Republican Orgy known as the “War on Christmas” is virtually an American tradition. Every year we hear about how Christmas is being supplanted by evil Liberals when every year it seems we spend more and more money we don’t have on garbage we don’t need in order to celebrate it. This year, however, shots are fired early and it is coming from someone you probably didn’t expect.

Pope Francis has come out railing against society for embracing Christmas and holding it in such a supposedly sacred regard while completely ignoring everything it stands for.

Pope Francis had some very strong and very true words for society (and we know he is including Republicans in this) when he gave his statement:

"Christmas is approaching. There will be lights, parties, Christmas trees and nativity scenes...it's all a charade"

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/republicans-are-about-to-lose-their-sht-pope-francis-called-christmas-a-charade-read-why/

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Christmas is a charade': Pope says.....more.... (Original Post) Tripper11 Nov 2015 OP
Christmas AKA $$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s and propaganda! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #1
And so is religion. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #2
the catholic charade deserves the other charade. like the song says, "Don't rain on my charade". oh msongs Nov 2015 #3
No sher, shitlock Doc_Technical Nov 2015 #4
So he's not a fan of the Starbucks coffee cups? NightWatcher Nov 2015 #5
Happy Holidays! n/t Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #6
Has Xmas Xpert Kelly been told yet? Rex Nov 2015 #7
It certainly is. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #8
Heh. Forget about ye olde "Twelve Days of Christmas" now it's LiberalElite Nov 2015 #9
LOL! I still haven't even gotten around to taking down my Halloween decorations yet. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #11
I've wondered why they don't just LiberalElite Nov 2015 #12
Soon Thanksgiving will be known as "Black Friday Eve." n/t eShirl Nov 2015 #16
Christmas is the celebration of the winter solstice Yorktown Nov 2015 #10
Wasnt Dec 25th originally a Pagan holiday? davidn3600 Nov 2015 #13
It is said that the early Christians adopted the date of the pagan holiday Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #15
Probably the fundies will call it a War on Christmas n/t eridani Nov 2015 #14
New tradition: playing Christmas Charades with the relatives. eShirl Nov 2015 #17
It's a Pope Francis Christmas, Charlie Brown ucrdem Nov 2015 #18
Christmas is actually a frightening holiday: struggle4progress Nov 2015 #19
I believe that's the point, but don't say that out loud to the Christmas Warriors. bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #20
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
2. And so is religion.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:04 PM
Nov 2015

Well, really more of a giant grifting scam. I'd bet a huge portion of priests and other RCC poobahs don't actually believe that the Jesus mythology is "true."

msongs

(67,442 posts)
3. the catholic charade deserves the other charade. like the song says, "Don't rain on my charade". oh
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

wait that was parade lol

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
8. It certainly is.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

BTW, the Christmas music has started already. Not sure when it exactly it was, but I noticed about a week prior to Thanksgiving this year. They are playing Christmas music at Walmart. One of the local radio stations has already switched over to 24-7 Christmas music. Dunkin Donuts is totally decked out with Christmas decorations. No Thanksgiving decorations and that is supposed to be the holiday happening next week. It's like Thanksgiving doesn't even count as holiday. It is merely a prelude to Christmas.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
9. Heh. Forget about ye olde "Twelve Days of Christmas" now it's
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:09 PM
Nov 2015

more like seven weeks. I'm old enough to recall when none of this started until the day after Thanksgiving. Then and only then did all retail Hell break loose and the Musak playlist take a decidedly Christian turn. Now the chintzy perfume sets and mega-sized popcorn tins start appearing around Labor Day.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
11. LOL! I still haven't even gotten around to taking down my Halloween decorations yet.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:18 PM
Nov 2015

It would be kind of funny to have up Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas decorations all at once. Put up a Christmas tree and decorate it with cobwebs, witches, skeletons, ghosts, pumpkins, turkeys, etc. Heck, put up some bunnies and shamrocks too. Maybe I should do that this year.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
12. I've wondered why they don't just
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

sell all that stuff all the time. Retail holiday creep has been a thing for years. Then we'd see Cadbury's Easter Eggs in November and Hershey's red & green kisses in April and jack'olanterns in July and red white n' blue July 4th stuff in January.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
10. Christmas is the celebration of the winter solstice
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

A festivity which far predates the birth of a semi hypothetical Mr Jesus.

So, yes, Francis, Christmas is a charade.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. It is said that the early Christians adopted the date of the pagan holiday
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:32 AM
Nov 2015

so they wouldn't get fed to the lions for celebrating.

struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
19. Christmas is actually a frightening holiday:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:53 AM
Nov 2015

we hear how Joseph, learning his to-be-wife is somehow pregnant already, wants to ditch her but is told not to do that; we see the poor woman give birth in a barn; and then we learn they're all running for their lives because the king is a homicidal kook

Nothing is working out for those people: they're not good comfortable middle-class folk, with cozy lives that satisfy them -- that's for sure

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
20. I believe that's the point, but don't say that out loud to the Christmas Warriors.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:05 AM
Nov 2015

Wait till they hear the kings were really pagan or Zorastrian astrologers.

You've got a whole pastiche of old legends mixed up with some genuine history and possibly some real family memories. King Herod WAS a homicidal kook--as well as a brilliant urban planner. There probably a Roman census around the time of Jesus' birth, St. Luke in particular seemed to want to ground his story in easily verifiable reality and I've always liked the story of how Joseph was about to ditch Mary when she turned up pregnant but changed his mind (there are traditions that she was knocked up by a Roman soldier). Whether divinely inspired or not he does the right thing in the end and that's what counts. Hell, there my have even been a real star--It would be great if we had astronomical observations from the university of Alexandria to verify but those were all destroyed when the Christians torched the library.

The Christians decided to celebrate the birth of Jesus in December because that was the Roman feast of Saturnalia and a big hoopdedoo with gift giving, drinking and lots of fun. So, Christmas warriors, a happy "Io Saturnalia" to you. The crap you're all defending comes straight from the pagan holiday.

The story of the working class couple forced by an oppressive occupying power to travel when the woman is pregnant so she has to give birth in a stable and who then are forced to become refugees when the paranoid king decides to kill all baby boys is the real Christmas story.

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