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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:32 PM Nov 2015

Trump on BLM protester: "Maybe He Should Have Been Roughed Up"

Trump is a racist thug. Expect his support to go up.

ED HENRY (HOST): I would add to that, sir, that yesterday at that large rally you had, there's video going viral of an African-American protester from Black Lives Matter who appears to have gotten roughed up. We don't know who did it, whether it was supporters, whether it was security. Can you comment on that and whether or not you want to remedy that situation, and then react to David Axelrod saying that you are going to lose a general election?
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DONALD TRUMP: I will tell you that the man that was -- was I don't know you say roughed up, he was so obnoxious and so loud, he was screaming. I had 10,000 people in the room yesterday, 10,000 people, and this guy started screaming by himself and they -- I don't know, rough up, he should have been -- maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing. This was not handled the way Bernie Sanders handled his problem, I will tell you, but I have a lot of fans and they were not happy about it. And this was a very obnoxious guy, who was a troublemaker, was looking to make trouble, but I didn't get to see the event.

HENRY: Well Donald Trump, we appreciate your time this morning. Thank you for coming on Fox & Friends weekend, and on top of that there's a new poll Fox will have at the top of the hour, 9:00 A.M. Eastern time. Going to be very interesting news for Donald Trump. Everyone's going to want to watch that.

JULIET HUDDY (HOST): Thank you.

CLAYTON MORRIS (HOST): Thank you Donald, we appreciate it.

HUDDY: Have a good day, and a good Thanksgiving.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/11/22/fox-amp-friends-hosts-have-no-reaction-to-donal/207018
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Trump on BLM protester: "Maybe He Should Have Been Roughed Up" (Original Post) Rose Siding Nov 2015 OP
He's encouraging them underpants Nov 2015 #1
Someone may want to remind him of what "mob mentality" means 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #2
Fascist fucker demwing Nov 2015 #3
I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #19
Uhm...OK demwing Nov 2015 #20
It's sick and scary. octoberlib Nov 2015 #4
This man is a psychopath Iliyah Nov 2015 #5
Another reason to hate him even more. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2015 #6
what era are we living in ... napkinz Nov 2015 #7
Thank you. I'm piggybacking here because my OP misfired & is being swamped by "helpful" posts UTUSN Nov 2015 #8
Donald Trump Has Gone Full Nazi – And If The GOP Doesn’t Repudiate It They Own It napkinz Nov 2015 #10
GMTA. Yip, the ball is in the Repukes' court for a NIXON-to-China moment. n/t UTUSN Nov 2015 #11
That's dangerous shit. He could have gotten someone killed. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #9
trump isn't fit to be dog catcher..... spanone Nov 2015 #12
Well now we know where trump falls on the spectrum and it should not be too surprising. Rex Nov 2015 #13
He's a no-account tinhorn jackbooted thug Brother Buzz Nov 2015 #14
... napkinz Nov 2015 #15
The original line about "carrying the cross" still applies. Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #21
Maybe? You mean you are uncertain and yet went ahead and let your thugs beat the man up anyway? Rex Nov 2015 #16
ABC News covering the story tonight napkinz Nov 2015 #17
Did they include his tacit approval? Rose Siding Nov 2015 #22
Disgusting. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #18

underpants

(182,603 posts)
1. He's encouraging them
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

And I wouldn't be surprised if the next time (and each subsequent time) his mob doesn't try to one up each other.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
2. Someone may want to remind him of what "mob mentality" means
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015
"When people are part of a group, they often experience deindividuation, or a loss of self-awareness. When people deindividuate, they are less likely to follow normal restraints and inhibitions and more likely to lose their sense of individual identity. Groups can generate a sense of emotional excitement, which can lead to the provocation of behaviors that a person would not typically engage in if alone." - Tamara Avant (South University)


Eventually we're going to see images of a group his White supporters screaming racial slurs while beating, kicking and stomping on a Black person and that person will be seriously injured or even die. When that happens, the statements he made today will come back to haunt him and will utterly derail his campaign because mass protests will follow him everywhere.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ivanka Trump suddenly decided to become Ivanka Zelníčková when all of this is said and done.

UTUSN

(70,644 posts)
8. Thank you. I'm piggybacking here because my OP misfired & is being swamped by "helpful" posts
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:02 PM
Nov 2015

A few weeks ago it was a Latino being dragged and kicked. Now a BLM. At first I was going to post only this topic alone, then thought of the Nazi thuggery so added the putsch item, then thought I might get gigged about making Nazi/HITLER parallels, but I see by http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027367202 that it's a valid point to make.

Not to mention that from his Day 1 he started making outrageous proclamations, and quickly went from being written off to being respectfully interviewed and treated as a credible, even creditable, figure. Now he's even into waterboarding territory. What will it take for a have-you-no-decency moment?


Fitting that the putsch anniversary is November. And some quotations: “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.” --Sinclair LEWIS

Hamlet: O villain, villain, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]smiling[/FONT], damnèd villain! ...
That one may [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]smile, and smile, and be a villain[/FONT] — “Hamlet”, Act I, scene 5, 105-109

from the movie “Elizabeth” (1998), Cate BLANCHETT: “A man will confess to anything...under torture.”

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http://gawker.com/donald-trump-supporters-filmed-kicking-punching-black-1743981571
[font size=5]Donald Trump Supporters Filmed Kicking, Punching Black Lives Matter Protester at Rally in Alabama[/font]

Melissa Cronin
A black protester who tried to interrupt a speech by Donald Trump at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama was set upon by the candidate’s supporters.

The protester appeared to be shouting “black lives matter,” and wearing a shirt that read the same, according to CNN. Some six Trump supporters attacked him, with at least one man punching him, and a woman kicking him while he was lying on the ground.

The scuffle was captured from all angles, with Trump’s voice blaring over a loudspeaker in the background.

Trump reportedly told security to “get him the hell out of here.”

Campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks told CNN “the campaign does not condone this behavior.”

(Image via Twitter)



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The Beer Hall Putsch, also known as the Munich Putsch,[1] and, in German, as the Hitlerputsch or Hitler-Ludendorff-Putsch, was a failed coup attempt by the Nazi Party leader Adolf Hitler — along with Generalquartiermeister Erich Ludendorff and other Kampfbund leaders — to seize power in Munich, Bavaria, during 8–9 [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]November[/FONT] 1923. About two thousand men marched to the centre of Munich, where they confronted the police, which resulted in the death of 16 Nazis and four policemen.[1] Hitler himself was wounded.

After two days, Hitler was arrested and charged with treason.[2] From Hitler's perspective, there were three positive [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]benefits from this attempt to seize power unlawfully[/FONT]. First, the putsch brought Hitler to the attention of the German nation and generated front page headlines in newspapers around the world. His arrest was followed by a 24-day trial, which was widely publicized and gave Hitler a platform to publicize his nationalist sentiment to the nation. Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in Landsberg Prison.[3] The second benefit to Hitler was that he used his time in prison to produce Mein Kampf, which was dictated to his fellow prisoner, Rudolf Hess. On 20 December 1924, having served only nine months, Hitler was released.[4][5] The final benefit that accrued to Hitler was the [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]insight that the path to power was through legitimate means. Revolution and anarchy was not the route to power[/FONT]. Accordingly, the most significant outcome of the putsch was a decision by Hitler to change NSDAP tactics, which would demand an increasing reliance on the development and furthering of Nazi propaganda.[6]

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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
10. Donald Trump Has Gone Full Nazi – And If The GOP Doesn’t Repudiate It They Own It
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:05 PM
Nov 2015

November 20, 2015

If the Republican Party is ever going to wake up and shut down this misanthropic racist it had better be now. Donald Trump’s latest hateful howling has crossed a line of indecency that is impossible to ignore. And Godwin be damned, he is articulating Nazi rhetoric on a scale not seen since the originals.

Just yesterday Trump told Yahoo News that he would support the development of databases and other systems to track and monitor people in the United States on the basis of their religion. He did not rule out forcing Muslims to have identifying papers or badges. Perhaps he would make them wear a star and crescent in the manner that Hitler’s Nazis made Jews wear the Star of David. From Yahoo: “We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

This grotesque policy position fits nicely with his prior statement that he believes it may be necessary to close mosques in America. He said that “there’s absolutely no choice” because “some really bad things are happening.” Apparently one of the “really bad things” isn’t the assault on our Constitution’s First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion. But that’s not all, Trump also told Yahoo News that ...

"We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

read more: http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=30188

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. That's dangerous shit. He could have gotten someone killed.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:04 PM
Nov 2015

What he should have done was paused his speech, told the crowd to calm down and let the cops handle it.

He should know better - he does have professional security people working his events.

Instead, he used the disruption as a way to rile his teabagger base up, and as a result, he sicced a teabagger mob on the protester. Fortunately, nobody was injured, but what if one of the teabaggers had a weapon, or if one of them got really out of control and kicked that protester in the head.

Real fucking classy.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Well now we know where trump falls on the spectrum and it should not be too surprising.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

Petty Dicktator.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
21. The original line about "carrying the cross" still applies.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 07:33 PM
Nov 2015

Trump calls himself "religious" since he started running for president.

And said this at the Values Voter Summit: "The word 'Christmas' -- I love Christmas. I love Christmas. You go to stores now, you don't see the word 'Christmas.' It says 'Happy Holidays' all over. Remember the expression, 'Merry Christmas?' You don't see it anymore. You're going to see it if I get elected, I can tell you right now."

Atrios has described that attitude against Happy Holidays as "Tis the Season to be Angry."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Maybe? You mean you are uncertain and yet went ahead and let your thugs beat the man up anyway?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:48 PM
Nov 2015

You're a fucking idiot.

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