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[Tierra_y_Libertad]

1. Love the guy's Hitler mustache.

[immoderate]

2. This sounds pretty plausible to me.

I never got the clock thing. I mean why would he take a clock, and make it into a clock?

--imm

[randome]

15. He wasn't trying to sell it, for Christ's sake.

How do you think engineering students learn how things work? By taking them apart and re-assembling them!
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[GummyBearz]

40. It seems he was selling it

$15M price tag. Pretty damn expensive clock

[randome]

46. Right. It was all a Muslim plot from the start. Good God.

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[darkangel218]

58. "it was all a Muslim plot from the start" - That is not what the poster above said.

Why do you put words in their mouth?

[11 Bravo]

95. As near as I can tell, the first introduction of the word "Muslim" ...

came from you.

[immoderate]

44. His rap does not ring true.

An 'engineering student' (I was one, graduated from Brooklyn Tech) would not present a project if it didn't have a purpose. His clock should do something beside displaying the time. Putting something in a different container provides no insight into how it works. And none of his subsequent verbal encounters shows scientific interest.

Is it possible the kid was baiting and trolling?

--imm

[randome]

47. Why the hell would a student need to justify what he was doing if it was harmless?

Anyone taking a cursory look at the clock would realize it was...a clock! If he was trolling everyone, he sure as hell lucked out by being beset upon by some of the stupidest people in the education and law-enforcement system!
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[immoderate]

68. The video points out, that once he set the alarm off in class, and the teacher confiscated it,

that set off a series of mandatory, zero tolerance responses from the teacher, school admin, and the police. A good troll would have taken advantage of all of these regulations. I don't know what his original intention was, but I taught school for 25 years, and I am not ready to buy this kid's story.

--imm

[randome]

82. With only baseless conjecture, you'll believe what you want.

When it's equally possible that events happened as reported. No one needs to be on a bandwagon to point out that there was a multitude of stupid, reactionary people involved.
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[immoderate]

86. I assert no certainty. I'll settle for 'equally possible.'

I assure you that my conjectures are firmly based. (Check the kid's body language.)

--imm

[darkangel218]

60. yes, its quite possible he was doing just that.

[JI7]

84. he was 14 years old. not a college student

[immoderate]

88. And Brooklyn Tech is a high school. I started there at 13.

And subsequently, I spent many years teaching, mostly middle school. I taught some science. (I prefer teaching math. I'm licensed to teach science though.) And I am open to the idea that this kid was playing a game. His 'science project' makes no sense, unless you view it as a trolling device. I think his 'science' was playing with fire.

--imm

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

98. I posted on DU that I thought it was a hoax

I called it from the beginning and I still
don't think I'm wrong.

[immoderate]

99. You're lookin' good.

--imm

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

102. Let's just say that I'm very familiar

with zero tolerance laws because of my son. It sucks.

And I'm familiar with the little ticking time bombs with their wires on television shows. It's no wonder Ahmed's teacher told him not to show it to anyone. Apparently, he was looking out for him.

How many of us have actually seen a real bomb? I love reading "Oh, that's so stupid. That doesn't look like a bomb!"

[Wilms]

3. WT-. You're kidding. Right?

[countingbluecars]

4. A must watch?

I got through 2 minutes of this Rush Limbaugh wannabe. Sickening.

[snooper2]

9. He is a progressive democrat supporting Bernie Sanders calling out his own side

But watching the whole video to learn something is hard

[trumad]

13. See post 12.

[countingbluecars]

14. I doubt that.

And if he really is a progressive democrat, he should find better things to rant about than some young kid. He needs to grow up.

[snooper2]

22. Um, he is a YouTube star he does videos on everything- 225K subscribers, over 28 million views

hundreds of videos-


Just FYI

[countingbluecars]

25. Big deal.

That doesn't make him any less of a bigot. Maybe you should send the video to Trump. Hype up that fear of Muslims.

[yeoman6987]

27. So everyone's a bigot if they don't lock step that story? Yeah ok.

[trumad]

29. Oh he's a fucking bigot for sure.

[GreatGazoo]

70. Dusty doesn't say that the kid did this because he is Muslim

He says that he did it because he is a 14-year-old boy.

One of his more famous videos was on how Duck Dynasty is fake and defending A&E's right to fire Phil Whoever:

[countingbluecars]

75. I still think "Dusty" is a bigot. n/t

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

100. The Fifteen Million Dollar Lawsuit Changes Things

I think his dad was behind this. You don't have to be a christian to know that you can make a mint suing the school district.

[trumad]

5. So let me get this straight---

You want me to watch this Liberal hating dumbass to get the real facts of the case?

Am I missing something?

[snooper2]

11. See post above- A Bernie Sanders progressive actually-

[B2G]

6. I hope the school district forces a trial

So everything can come out.

Now a lawsuit brought by Pop Tart boy? That I could get behind.

[Travis_0004]

7. I want to know why he claimed he built the clock

He took off the case and threw it in a pencil box, and evertbody said he was a smart kid.

It took me about 5 seconds to figure out that the clock wasnt hand built. Unless the kid had an 80's production line at his disposal.

[Nye Bevan]

8. You do realize that there is an excellent chance that a jury will hide this?

It may not be that big a deal for you as you have only 1 hide in 90 days but if it is you should self-delete. Certain points of view are very unwelcome here.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

10. It's the knee jerk reaction

that enables people such as Ahmed Mohamed.

The faker (and his family) should have been given a good spanking, not invited to the White House etc.

Ahmed Mohamed on this video claims to have invented the clock...........oh and he was detained not arrested!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

31. You sure are one to talk about knee jerk reactions.

Does George Zimmerman deserve a good spanking too?

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3168327

[Boudica the Lyoness]

72. Hell no!

He was defending his life. And that is not a knee jerk reaction on my part. If I was jumped in the dark and someone was smashing my head into the edge of the sidewalk and I had the chance to stop them I WOULD. Seems like the jury agreed with me.

No spankings for people who stop someone from killing them.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

73. It's good to know there is at least one person here not afraid to stand up for George Zimmerman.

[closeupready]

78. Thank you, Tommy. I now see clearly what kind of person Boudica is.

I knew she had issues, but never in a million would I have thought she'd defend Zimmerman.

[trumad]

76. Who was defending his life?

Zimmerman?

Trayvon jumped him in the dark? Out of know where? Z was just minding his own business?

Is that it.

To bad you weren't around here when it happened. You would have gotten annihilated.

[Blue_Tires]

103. Holy damn, woman...

You know, I'm not even in the mood to fuck with you tonight... On to the ignore list you go.

[trumad]

12. Here's another one of his Gems: If you are Muslim you are Retarded

This guy is a fucking asshole and I can't believe you are posting his shit here.

[snooper2]

17. he is one of those "loud mouth" atheists who thinks all religion is retarded

Some tend to agree with him


Oh, one his funniest videos is covering the duck dynasty fucking clowns

[trumad]

18. He's a fucking Bigot.

[MellowDem]

24. So is the Pope...

And so is Bernice King, actually they're much bigger bigots.

Mocking ideas doesn't make you a bigot. Being against equal rights for people because of their sexuality does. I always see this weird double standard on DU.

[trumad]

28. So---it's OK if bigot bullshit is posted here?

fat jokes made at Women are cool with you?....

[randome]

33. You just don't 'get' him, trumad. All he wants to do is make people laugh.

Sometimes you have to burn people's sense of self in order to make a buck.

Please. Try to find some love in your heart for his hate.
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[MellowDem]

39. Bigot bullshit...

Is posted all the time on here. Some of it from our own bigoted leaders of the Democratic Party. Some of it praising bigots for doing something else that is progressive. Mocking religions isn't bigotry. In fact, a lot of the religions are bigoted.

If Pope praising threads are allowed, then I don't see why others wouldn't be.

From my understanding of the OP, the guy does quite a few videos tongue in cheek to some degree. He's not entirely sincere. It's a form of humor and a way of mocking certain ideas. Hyperbole is his schtick from what I can tell.

I don't think many on DU will understand that type of humor, and I don't expect them to. I don't think the fat woman video would go over well here, just like I don't think the Pope's comments on gay adoptions would go over well here.

I do think his duck dynasty video would be appreciated by some here, though again, only if you like that kind of humor and social commentary.

As for this video, it probably won't go over well here, because it will be seen as attacking the victim.

[randys1]

30. YOu didnt get the memo, DU now has many people who are in agreement with

this type of person.

I have to be careful how I word it.

[trumad]

36. I posted two of his videos that are pretty god damn awful.

Oh but he supports Bernie.

[snooper2]

38. interesting how it's just a "HE'S A BIGOT!" comes out from the offended (of what I don't know)

But not one fucking repudiation of ANYTHING he actually said in the video



As he says at the end of the video-

"When I see my fellow leftists be so fucking gullible I have to call you out on it. Because it makes us look stupid. You will literally buy anything the left wing blogs tell you. I want my side to be better than this which is why I'm just as ready to call out bullshit on my side as I am on the other side."


Seriously, stop being so gullible

[countingbluecars]

42. What offends me is the fact

that this kid was arrested and handcuffed at school when there was clearly no threat to the school or other students. What offends me is the fact that the child was placed in a room, interrogated and threatened without having his parents there. The idiot who posted the video should call bullshit on that. Progressive my ass.

[immoderate]

61. He DID call bullshit on how the kid was treated.

He pointed out that the school and the police were following 'zero tolerance' practices that they had no control over. I have seen a lot of pointless complaints, and deflections, but nothing here has refuted the OP.

--imm

[countingbluecars]

62. So do the police arrest every student

who breaks school policy?

[immoderate]

71. Good question. How would that be relevant?

--imm

[countingbluecars]

74. I guess I am wondering if these

extreme zero tolerance measures (arrest, handcuffs, interrogation without notifying parents, forced signing of confession, etc.) would have been applied if the young boy were white.

[immoderate]

77. OK. Let's suppose they don't. So what? — Irrelevant.

—imm

[treestar]

81. He's wrong though

he supports his argument with things the kid did before, things his sister did and things his father did. Right wing type of bullshit.

Then he actually argues the kid should know he's a Muslim post 911 and therefore should be more careful about what he does! He ought to know his place!

Then he says we are bigoted against the teachers as being from Texas! Oblivious of the fact he said this kid is more likely to get into trouble because he's a Muslim, should know that and be careful what he does.

[Chathamization]

85. The stuff about his sister is a lie that's being spread by right-wing sites

His sister said:

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”

So the video displays this headline from Liberty News:

WHOA! Hoax Clock Bomb Boy’s Older Sister Admits She Was Suspended From Middle School For Making Bomb Threat

Oh, and what else is on Liberty News? You can find stories like "The America-Basher in Chief Rolls On."

This is like Global Warning denier stuff; they through a bunch of BS at you, and then tell you that they're right unless you dig through all their BS and refute each line. Of course, if you do that they have a whole new pile of BS they tell you you need to wade through...

It's clear that some people on the internet really hate this 14-year old kid and are really interested in trashing him (see all of the people mocking him for talking about soldering CPUs). It seems to mostly be coming from right-wing bigots, but it seems like some on the left are happy to join in as well.

[treestar]

93. thanks for the info

typical right wingers

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

101. My kids go to school with Muslims

In fact, I live in a county with a high number of Muslim families (the majority are professionals), and I don't know any of any teens who have gotten suspended for threats or hoaxes. How is it that this kid and his sister have both been suspended and are considered troublemakers?

Could it have something to do with the father?

That fifteen million dollar lawsuit might be an indication...

[The2ndWheel]

87. Isn't that called context?

he supports his argument with things the kid did before, things his sister did and things his father did. Right wing type of bullshit.

How can you say it's right wing type bullshit? Just because right wingers have done something like that before? Is that how you're going to support your argument?

Then he actually argues the kid should know he's a Muslim post 911 and therefore should be more careful about what he does! He ought to know his place!

Then he says we are bigoted against the teachers as being from Texas! Oblivious of the fact he said this kid is more likely to get into trouble because he's a Muslim, should know that and be careful what he does.

We still wouldn't know this kid's name if he hadn't gone out of his way to bring something to school that nobody told him to bring to school. There was no project. No teacher said make this and bring it in. There was no science fair. The first teacher he showed it to, his science teacher, shop teacher, whatever, said don't show this to anyone else. It's not being careful about what he does in general because he's a Muslim. It's don't do this specific thing, which would apply to any kid. If you're going to bring it to school for no official reason, don't let it make a sound during class when nobody is expecting it.

[treestar]

94. I listened to the whole thing and he specifically said

though he claimed other kids would be treated the same, he started "this kid's whole life took place after 911" and that "being a Muslim" he should know he would be in trouble for this kind of prank, should have known people would think it was a bomb because he is a Muslim.

And judging people by others is very right wing - because his father did something, it's supposed to reflect on him. Like Obama is supposed to be a communist because of his mother knowing one.

[Blue_Tires]

105. +1

[MellowDem]

21. He's a firebrand...

I agree with most of his videos, but the way he presents it and the type of humor he uses will offend many DUers. Sometimes justifiably, but I'm glad some people like him are out there openly mocking some very privileged ideas ( religion).

If you don't understand the humor he uses or the fact that he goes after all religions then you'll probably not "get it", which is fine.

I never expected his videos would be accepted much here, his audience is a lot younger and more libertarian from what I can tell.

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. Or: "Black people using a tragedy as an excuse to steal shit"

So when I saw this post by Dusty Smith, a popular YouTube atheist under the handle “Cult of Dusty,” it bothered me. I usually “get” his sort of politically-incorrect humor even if it’s not for everyone, but there’s just nothing funny about this:

I love how shocked CNN is that black people are violently looting in Baltimore right now. Black people using a tragedy as an excuse to steal shit? Who could have possibly predicted such a thing?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/28/you-really-are-just-being-racist-here/

He's the kind of person that give Bernie Sanders supporters a bad name, if he really does.

More intentionally offensive shit on the subject of race here: https://twitter.com/cultofdusty/status/558047722834767876?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[MellowDem]

51. I remember him apologizing for that...

(Or a similar) incident. It's lazy humor to repeat stereotypes as true for the purposes of humor IMHO, but that type of humor is unfortunately widely appreciated.

[muriel_volestrangler]

52. So, given his bad reputation, is there anything important in the video?

Or is it all just his opinion? If the latter, then there's no point in anyone watching it. If he's actually discovered something that otehr people don't know, it could be worth watching.

[MellowDem]

57. It's social commentary and entertainment...

for most of his videos. He does take a "shock jock" approach sometimes, which I don't like, but some of his others he has done have been pretty funny (IMHO) and even a bit nuanced. Hopefully he matures into a bit more sophisticated of a social commentator, but I did stop following him about a year ago. I think most of his earlier stuff was in regards to religion, not sure if that is still the case.

His audience seems young, white, relatively liberal, but also pretty naive on a lot of topics not involving evangelical Christian religion (he seems to draw a lot of people who have struggled out of religion from evangelical backgrounds).

[cwydro]

79. Well, he pointed out that the kid was known for pranks, and the sister had been suspended before.

Apparently, she liked to phone in bomb threats.

[tonedevil]

104. Please show us...

an example of the sister phoning in a bomb threat. I know that his sister said she was suspended because another girl said she wanted to blow things up, but where do you get that she phoned in a bomb threat. Do you have specifics or are you just spreading fertilizer?

[cwydro]

108. The question asked that I replied to was if there was anything in the video we

didn't know.

I answered that question because I watched the video. I learned something I DID NOT KNOW.

It was NOT me who said anything about the sister...I just watched the video. Perhaps you should.

But it has all been verified. Look it up if you want.

[tonedevil]

109. You wrote...

Apparently, she liked to phone in bomb threats. The issue I have with that is there is no proof she ever phoned in any bomb threats. In an interview she said she was suspend because of an accusation from another girl. You should look it up before you spread more lies.

[cwydro]

111. I wrote a quote from the video, which you have apparently not taken the time to listen to.

I'm not spreading any lies. I only quoted the video.

And I answered the question asked of the poster. If you would like to continue with your ad hominem crap, you go right ahead.

But I'll not be answering.

Sometimes, I do understand - the truth hurts.

Have a great evening now tone.

[951-Riverside]

54. Ugh.

[MADem]

59. And this guy is a "progressive Bernie supporter?" Reeeeeaaaaaalllly?

Does Bernie need more haters on his bus? I thought Bernice King was bad...

[randome]

16. You should delete.

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[spanone]

19. fuck this guy.

[alarimer]

20. Fuck these right-wing talking points

WTF is wrong with you?

Now I guess police overkill and racism is okay, because he isn't some genius?

[trumad]

26. Op edited to say---he supports Bernie.

So I guess his bullshit is ok.

[randys1]

32. As a Bernie supporter, that part of all this pisses me off. Bernie will not survive such stupidity

[rhett o rick]

49. This doesn't have any reflection on Sen Sanders. Only the anti-progressives

will try to smear this on Sen Sanders.

[trumad]

67. I agree---so tell the Op to quit mentioning Bernie Sanders.

[gollygee]

96. +1000

[trumad]

23. Here's one where he disparages "Chubby Girls' and "Fat Girls".

http://cultofdusty.com/videos/

Like I said---the guy is a huge asshole.

[LanternWaste]

35. This too will be quickly justified

This too will be quickly creatively and righteously justified, allowing the undisciplined mind to continue without interruption. (e.g., "well, DU makes fun of chubby people too... so it's alright" or something along those sub-literate lines of 'thought')

[Scurrilous]

64. "But..but...Bernie!!1!"

[closeupready]

34. I just keep thinking, George Wallace and Robert Byrd were Democrats, too.

And that perhaps racist bigotry is becoming popular again with some folks in our party.

Regardless, this is offensive, and I'd unrec it if I could.

[MellowDem]

45. Our own President invited...

Rick Warren to the inauguration and changes his stance on gay marriage for political expediency. Around 80 Democrats just voted against allowing Syrian refugees.

One third of Democrats still oppose gay marriage.

Yet certain types of bigotry among our party causes less outrage than others on this site.

[closeupready]

55. It's thought-provoking

to think of the whole Warren thing in the same terms, but it really is just as offensive.

And maybe that should be my response the next time someone here goes, 'see how being gay in Iran/KSA/Syria gets you!'

A gay person defending the rights of a religious minority even when that religion condemns gay people is akin to the well-worn axiom 'I may disagree with your point of view, but I'll defend your right to express it'. I obviously disagree with homophobic religious dogma, but I also agree people who hold those views have the same rights as anyone else.

[kentuck]

37. WTF!

Gullible? Me? A hoax? Stupid? Yeah, right!

He's just an innocent kid. Give him $10 million and call it even...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

43. Ugh. Youtube "Stars".

Basically, this guy seems to channel Bill Maher, who's just as much as a douchebag, but with clearly a much better agent.

[Iggo]

48. Racist bigot.

[mwrguy]

50. Islamophobic garbage

From a "Bernie Sanders progressive".

[Trajan]

53. Enough

Gone

[Iggo]

90. You know what? You're right.

That's enough.

[katsy]

56. 1. Sheer conjecture no proof; and

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

2. It wouldn't matter if the young man signed a confession in blood.

Totally irrelevant.

The asses that arrested him and the community that hired those inept fools deserve to get sued.

[cwydro]

110. You meant to write "sheer".

Sheer is a different word than "shear", which refers to wind shear usually.

Check it out.

Google is your friend.

[Scurrilous]

63. @#$% this @#$%. n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

65. Thanks, loudmouth

Parroting the same tired Bill Maher schtick on the situation almost verbatim. Trying to justify the way this boy was treated is not something I need to see on DU.

[KingCharlemagne]

66. why would we bother with your clickbait? - nt

[grossproffit]

92. I would have preferred being Rickrolled than to have listened to him.

What a boorish troll he is.

[Thor_MN]

69. Oh gee, another loudmouthed asshole....

who believes he knows everything and thinks we care what he thinks...

Sorry, don't have time for shouting assholes.

[treestar]

80. Who is he and why does he care so much?

Funny at the end where he says he does not care. He cares a lot. Enough to speak loudly and passionately for 10 minutes. It really bothers him. We'll see how the lawsuit turns out.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

83. He's a big time Youtube Star.

So there.

[gollygee]

97. Oh, yes, a true authority then.

Sigh.

[Matariki]

89. Oh hey. Let's demonize little kids. So awesome.

It's not 'must watch'. Boo.

[grossproffit]

91. I didn't expect to see this posted here. I find this man to be both a racist and a bigot.

IMO!

[Blue_Tires]

106. Sorry, no matter his supposed knowledge or expertise

I don't do the "ranting on a webcam in my bedroom" -thing on youtube

[giftedgirl77]

107. If there is one thing I've learned this election season it is

that all Sanders supporters are not liberals, progressives & there most certainly are some racists & bigots running around in that group rather loudly. He seems to fall into the latter.