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John Kasich levels a shotgun at Donald Trump... (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2015 OP
Good for John Kasich! nt OhZone Nov 2015 #1
+10 salin Nov 2015 #3
Eventually, John Kasich would get around to all of us NCjack Nov 2015 #51
^^^THIS^^^ haikugal Nov 2015 #53
Thank you! a la izquierda Nov 2015 #69
What a calm and centered person. Impressive. Shows up the Clown. libdem4life Nov 2015 #2
Yeah, that's not Kasich fbc Nov 2015 #9
Oh, thanks. His name is at the beginning...he's a military man. libdem4life Nov 2015 #32
Is Kasich running that anywhere? Rose Siding Nov 2015 #4
I agree with you.. In any other field annabanana Nov 2015 #5
Also agree. Ask the unions in Ohio about Kasich. spooky3 Nov 2015 #12
Kasich was in ALEC from the beginningand has been involved Hortensis Nov 2015 #37
I'm definitely not a fan of Kasich, but I'm glad to see this running. It's like anti-matter being RKP5637 Nov 2015 #68
I don't know SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #6
This video is blowback - by Kasich. tRump let loose a tweet-storm on Kasich the other day... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #7
What's Kasich's poll standing? gratuitous Nov 2015 #8
Kasich is as conservative as they come mountain grammy Nov 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #25
Trump is more like Mussolini than Hitler (nt) LuckyTheDog Nov 2015 #34
Never underestimate the evilness of John Kasich. FarPoint Nov 2015 #52
As a matter of fact he used to have a show on Fox News. n/t totodeinhere Nov 2015 #66
Normally, I hate the Hitler comparisons. murielm99 Nov 2015 #11
There seems to be a bit of message discipline going on. alfredo Nov 2015 #13
one thing I learned while divorcing a pathological narcissist. grasswire Nov 2015 #41
Could get messy. alfredo Nov 2015 #42
I am so grateful to see that, to FINALLY see a Republican say the truth about Trump. Hekate Nov 2015 #14
"The Establishment Strikes Back" alfredo Nov 2015 #15
Keep attacking the thin-skinned baby. BlueStater Nov 2015 #16
Trump needs to be attacked at the "street" level. Anything serious or intelligent won't sink in with world wide wally Nov 2015 #17
Being dissed and taunted is the surest way to get him annabanana Nov 2015 #18
Call him Daesh alfredo Nov 2015 #19
For those of us on a throttled connection, can you summarize the talking points? IDemo Nov 2015 #20
here... brooklynite Nov 2015 #22
Thank you. Gee, that has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it? n/t IDemo Nov 2015 #23
yep ... napkinz Nov 2015 #35
It's the SOS starting up again IMO. These are the scariest times I've seen in the US. 2016 will RKP5637 Nov 2015 #67
the narrator says he is paraphrasing that famous man dsc Nov 2015 #39
You're late, Kasich. Too late. Paladin Nov 2015 #21
Thank you Paladin chapdrum Nov 2015 #50
Good analysis---but I think "The Don" is way too respectable a label for Trump. (nt) Paladin Nov 2015 #55
Yeah, most of "The Don"s worked their way to that position. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #56
The Don frettadafrog Nov 2015 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #24
Just imagine the debates Funtatlaguy Nov 2015 #27
nice insight rurallib Nov 2015 #28
For a Republian Kaisich isn't bad. Which is probably why he is doing so badly in the polls. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #26
He's bad. Don't let them fool you! peace13 Nov 2015 #30
Among the current crop of Republicans, he is least extreme. I did not say he was a paragon Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #31
The Crazy Fascist is Causing Too Many Problems for the Friendly Fascists eom LarryNM Nov 2015 #43
Yep..establishments problem is that it's not a dog whistle anymore Volaris Nov 2015 #45
Thank you! Why the hell supposed progressives are praising this guy skepticscott Nov 2015 #65
Trump Fans are a BIG Portion of who we are. Funtatlaguy Nov 2015 #29
That says it all abakan Nov 2015 #33
Joy Reid covering this story on Hardball now napkinz Nov 2015 #38
Fatal error - Kasich is trying to appeal to GOP voters' better angels bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #40
k-n-r KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #44
I can see the trump ad liberalnarb Nov 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #47
Just sent Kasich campaign a thank u email. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #48
Anybody else worried 23% of the population just popped a woody over this video? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2015 #49
Trump supporters will only laugh when they see this. They love it! Vinca Nov 2015 #54
Kicking a post for a GOP candidate SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #57
hell, the doofus will probably get higher numbers. Nothing seems to matter 7962 Nov 2015 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #60
Kaisch has it 100% right about Trump. lark Nov 2015 #61
Very effective ad Gothmog Nov 2015 #62
I love that no one really gets it yet TheSarcastinator Nov 2015 #63
Fuck John Kasich. He is part of the problem skepticscott Nov 2015 #64

salin

(48,958 posts)
3. +10
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:22 PM
Nov 2015

Deadly serious ad. Possibly a death sentence for his own campaign. Courageous message in the face of the previous sentence.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
51. Eventually, John Kasich would get around to all of us
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

who are not Tea Party fanatics. So would Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, etc. Those folks just don't have the stupids that Donald Trump has to spout that garbage. The difference between Kasich and the pack is that he appears to be a fuzzy love ball -- but he really is vicious snake that bites.

a la izquierda

(12,290 posts)
69. Thank you!
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 07:52 AM
Nov 2015

I lived in Ohio for two years. Kasich is as bad as the rest, but packaged nicer.

Rose Siding

(32,629 posts)
4. Is Kasich running that anywhere?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:22 PM
Nov 2015

Good ad. I'd hate to see Kasich take hold, though. He always appears reasonable but he's as wingnutty as they come. He's the one who proposed a new cabinet level office to spread Judeo-Christian values. No prize there.

annabanana

(52,802 posts)
5. I agree with you.. In any other field
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:36 PM
Nov 2015

his wingnuttery would be considered notable.

Now he's positioned to look like the "reasonable" alternative...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Kasich was in ALEC from the beginningand has been involved
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

with it and the Kochs for decades. Dirty and anti- democratic principles as they come.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
68. I'm definitely not a fan of Kasich, but I'm glad to see this running. It's like anti-matter being
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

thrust into the Trump machine. I doubt it will phase the Trump guppies, but it does cause glaring attention to Trump in an unfavorable light as caustic as Trump himself.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
7. This video is blowback - by Kasich. tRump let loose a tweet-storm on Kasich the other day...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:09 PM
Nov 2015

...and this is blow back from that. tRump's turn to tat.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. What's Kasich's poll standing?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:15 PM
Nov 2015

As accurate and damaging as it is, Kasich has to pay money to produce and air an ad that basically says, "Pay attention to me." T Rump will swamp anything or anyone who tries to dog him and he'll do it for free, because the popular media can't get enough T Rump. T Rump will bloviate, misdirect, bitch and moan about "unfairness" and have it all aired repeated for nothing by the media. Oh, there might be one or two minor quibbles voiced half-heartedly by one talking chucklehead or another, but T Rump's message will dominate the day for as long as he needs it to.

mountain grammy

(28,876 posts)
10. Kasich is as conservative as they come
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:00 AM
Nov 2015

and just as mean. Glad he leveled this at Trump, though. Good to let them do their own dirty work. Trump's fans, of course, won't get it.

Response to mountain grammy (Reply #10)

FarPoint

(14,665 posts)
52. Never underestimate the evilness of John Kasich.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:17 PM
Nov 2015

He belongs in the same barrel as Donald Trump and GOP corporate puppets...He's no different than GW *bush...He is loyal to Foxx Noise.

murielm99

(32,871 posts)
11. Normally, I hate the Hitler comparisons.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:01 AM
Nov 2015

But this time it is accurate.

These dictators and wannabe dictators are bombastic, strutting little men. Physically, they are ridiculous, with strange hair, uniforms and mustaches. We should be laughing at them. Everyone should be laughing, without exception. Why do they have followers?

alfredo

(60,280 posts)
13. There seems to be a bit of message discipline going on.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:24 AM
Nov 2015

Maybe they will piss him off so bad that he quits the party, goes indy and take a good number of voters with him.

The GOP needed a mirror held up to them to see what asses they have become.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
41. one thing I learned while divorcing a pathological narcissist.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:59 PM
Nov 2015

It is possible to push their buttons and make them blow up in public situations where they then look very bad.

If the other candidates would push his buttons, he would be O U T very quickly. Bait him. Prick him. Let him show his bully, racist, totalitarian instincts.

Be calm, and let him self destruct.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
14. I am so grateful to see that, to FINALLY see a Republican say the truth about Trump.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:26 AM
Nov 2015

Kudos to John Kasich.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
16. Keep attacking the thin-skinned baby.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:39 AM
Nov 2015

Hopefully, he'll become so unhinged that it will be the end of him for good.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
17. Trump needs to be attacked at the "street" level. Anything serious or intelligent won't sink in with
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 03:42 AM
Nov 2015

these people. Call him a loser, a waste of a cheap suit…. whatever. But make sure a 12 year old can understand it. That's how it will get under his skin.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
22. here...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015

(Air Force Col. Tom Moe -- Vietnam POW)


"You might not care if Donald Trump says Muslims should register with their government, because you're not one," says Moe, to an ominous soundtrack.

"And you might not care if Donald Trump says he's going to round up all the Hispanic immigrants, because you're not one.

And you might not care if Donald Trump says it's okay to rough up black protesters, because you're not one.

And you might not care if Donald Trump wants to suppress journalists, because you're not one.

But think about this: If he keeps going, and he actually becomes president, he might just get around to you. And you better hope there's someone left to help you."

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
67. It's the SOS starting up again IMO. These are the scariest times I've seen in the US. 2016 will
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

be very telling on the future of the US for a generation or two.

dsc

(53,353 posts)
39. the narrator says he is paraphrasing that famous man
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

so he gets credit as he should.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
21. You're late, Kasich. Too late.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015

You and the rest of the "respectable" Republican establishment sat on your hands while the right-wing droolers came in and took over your party, and they didn't even have to break into a sweat, doing it. Regardless of how the elections turn out, history is not going to be kind to you "respectable" Republicans.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
50. Thank you Paladin
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

Kasich is completely full of it, but we know that each and every one of them is.

That aside, an analogy might be drawn between Kasich and Trump, and Cheney and Trump.

Cheney is just as odious as Trump, but he works his measured "gentility" like the good mole he is; he would never
be so crass as to state his shared beliefs with Trump, in the grandstanding ways of The Don.

In the same way, Kasich comes off as reasonable and measured, compared to The Don when, in fact, he is just
as far right as The Don.

I herewith suggest to you and all DU'ers that Trump be referred to as The Don (as in Mafia).

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
55. Good analysis---but I think "The Don" is way too respectable a label for Trump. (nt)
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 03:33 PM
Nov 2015

frettadafrog

(1 post)
59. The Don
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:48 PM
Nov 2015

I read somewhere The Don has mafia ties, because of his construction projects, perhaps?
It'd be interesting if reporters, or anybody really, could do some digging on that score and report what they find.
I've also been reading that The Don could be in early stages of dementia.
I've always referred to him as tRUMP or Trumpet.

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peace13

(11,076 posts)
30. He's bad. Don't let them fool you!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:57 PM
Nov 2015

He's Walkers twin. He's a Teabagger. He has systematically destroyed Ohio. Please research the guy!

Edited to add this from my post last week....
He is a tea bagging sun of a gun. First year in office he cut all budgets, schools included and municipalities had to make up the difference. The citizens of Ohio had to pick up the mess and pay at home. Before he came into office he tried to bilk millions from retirement accounts to line his own pockets. He sold us to the frackers and Ohioans pay to clean up the mess. When he came to office he stopped legislation to clean up the deadly blue green algae on Lake Erie saying it was caused by just a few bad apples and now six years later he proposes that the taxpayers clean up the mess by paying additional taxes. He gave the profits from the State liquor sales to a privatized board that was supposed to create jobs. Jobs Ohio, check it out. His original plan was to hire a man from California to run it. That man's salary was to be one dollar. Do you see anything fishy there? In addition to this the jobs board is an unauditable entity, run by a private board with State tax dollars! In the meantime the city of Toledo had to shut off all city water causing hospitals to cancel all procedures. The lake is a disaster that didn't wait to happen! This man ....is not to be trusted!

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
31. Among the current crop of Republicans, he is least extreme. I did not say he was a paragon
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015

of virtue.

I wouldn't vote form.
Would not want to see him as President.
And his poll numbers show little danger of that.

But I see the Republican field as a spectrum with some variation form Tumpolini through Kasich, not as a group of clones. In fact, Kasich, Rubio, and Bush are remarkably alike with only minor differences.

In my view, nothing is certain. Republicans could win the election, especially if Democrats do not show up and vote. (We are facing the third term curse.) I would rather see Kasich with the shot at the gold ring than Trump or Cruz, both of whom would be remarkably dangerous with that power.

A Republican in the Executive Branch is a nightmare scenario anyway I look at it. But some nightmares are on elmstreet and others just the type from which I wake up in a cold sweat, crying.

Volaris

(11,594 posts)
45. Yep..establishments problem is that it's not a dog whistle anymore
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 08:44 AM
Nov 2015

It's a full-throated Command to 'Sic Balls'.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
65. Thank you! Why the hell supposed progressives are praising this guy
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:11 PM
Nov 2015

is beyond me. Is he really the best person they can find to waste their keystrokes on?

Funtatlaguy

(11,875 posts)
29. Trump Fans are a BIG Portion of who we are.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

I find it laughable when people don't understand Trumps appeal.
Have you ever been to Walmart?
Have you ever been to an all you can eat buffet?
Have you ever watched a stupid sitcom like The King of Queens?
Those are Trump voters.
They are not smart people.
They are part of what has purposely been dumbed down in our nation.
I live amongst many of them here in the state of Georgia.
They only like people who look, think, worship as they do.
They see all others as a threat to their way of life.
They are low hanging fruit for Trump.
And, unfortunately, there are a lot of them.
Go watch the movie Idiocracy. That's where we are headed if these people claim full power.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,429 posts)
49. Anybody else worried 23% of the population just popped a woody over this video?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:25 AM
Nov 2015

I can just see my freeper in-laws yelling "good!!!" at the TV.

It's not Trump that scares me; it's the support he gets when he talks crazy.

Vinca

(53,652 posts)
54. Trump supporters will only laugh when they see this. They love it!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

And the Donald has the GOP by the balls. If they diss him too much, he'll run as an Independent and then both he and the GOP nominee will lose all 50 states.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
58. hell, the doofus will probably get higher numbers. Nothing seems to matter
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 07:53 PM
Nov 2015

just dont get it

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

lark

(26,001 posts)
61. Kaisch has it 100% right about Trump.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

He is scary, and the ultimate icon of what a TPP nation would be like. Kaisch made a bold move and will probably be severely attacked for it by the Donald.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
63. I love that no one really gets it yet
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:07 AM
Nov 2015

This ad won't change anyone's mind about Trump. He is so popular because of the dangerous rhetoric, not in spite of it. Trying to scare people away from his campaign by telling people he is a dangerous lunatic who says what he likes is the political equivalent of telling a teenager not to smoke cigarettes because it makes them look like dangerous rebels who don't care about the rules.

Kasich and everyone else is still pretending the American electorate is sane and intelligent. It is not.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
64. Fuck John Kasich. He is part of the problem
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

not remotely part of the solution. Kasich has voluntarily associated himself with exactly the kind of racists, homophobes and general haters that Trump is for his entire political career. He and his cronies may be a bit more careful and less impolitic about their views when speaking openly, but make no mistake, their views, as demonstrated by the policies they hammer home, do not differ significantly from Trump's.

Sad that so many DUers are taken in by his political phoniness and opportunism. He is scum. His voting record is all the proof you need.

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