Hotel chain bans bacon and sausage from breakfast menu

[niyad]

Hotel chain bans bacon and sausage from breakfast menu


If you’re the kind of breakfast lover who needs a side of bacon with your eggs, you may want to avoid Comfort Hotel on your next trip to Sweden.

?w=970&h=545&crop=1

Nordic Choice hotel group announced that Comfort Hotels in Scandinavia and the Baltics will stop serving bacon and sausage on its breakfast menus. And in case you think this is a response to the recent report that red meat causes cancer — nope! Nordic Choice owner Petter Stordalen cites sustainability, not health, as the reason. Fox News reports:
“The focus on sustainability permeates what we do in Nordic Choice,” Stordalen told Hegnar.no. He added that he believes guests “will appreciate a good, healthy start to the day.”

But not everyone at his hotel group agrees. “There are mixed reactions,” Ebba Kohl, who runs the restaurant at one of Comfort’s properties, told Sweden’s Västerbottens Kuriren newspaper (via The Local). “Some are upset and some understanding.”

. . . . .

Of course, Stordalen is not your typical hotelier, and so this move should be no surprise for anyone following his career. (Wait. You aren’t??) Unlike the Marriott family, who donated $1.5 million to a Mitt Romney superPAC, or Trump Hotels, whose CEO donated millions and a talking wig to Donald Trump’s campaign, Stordalen is known for championing progressive causes.

In addition to implementing the first hotel smoking ban, Stordalen also replaced porn on his hotel TVs with contemporary video art to make a stand against child trafficking. Taking away our bacon is fine, but contemporary video art? Talk about bad for the planet.

http://grist.org/food/hotel-chain-bans-bacon-and-sausage-from-breakfast-menu/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily-horizon

[redstateblues]

1. Socialist Utopia?

with no bacon? No thanks

[HuckleB]

10. You win the Internet today!

Please fry up some fine thick bacon for yourself.

[Floyd Steinberg]

2. I'm actually staying in Comfort Inn right now (their chain)

we decided to upgrade from a Knights Inn (a trucker's dump) to this place.

We'll eat some free breakfast tomorrow. I'll check to see if they are serving bacon and sausage. Their TV choice is DirecTV. No porn selection.

[A HERETIC I AM]

16. "(a trucker's dump)" really?

As a commercial driver who has stayed in thousands of hotels over the years on 3 continents, almost every one of the lower 48, 2 Canadian provinces and 2 Hawaiian islands, I can assure you that categorizing Knights Inn as a Truckers Dump does a disservice to actual dumps.

I have had to stay at one on occasion, but most trucking firms that pay for a hotel for their drivers are not putting them up in Knights Inns.

And FWIW, a Comfort Inn isn't that much of an upgrade. Your eggs in the morning If they offer them) will likely have been laid and cracked weeks and weeks ago, packaged in a vacuum sealed plastic bag and delivered by SYSCO or a similar firm. In the morning they are heated up in the microwave, usually to the point that they start to separate and give up the water which will pool in the bottom of the pan they serve them in. Likewise, the bacon and sausage will have been cooked in a massive commercial kitchen somewhere far from your hotel and reheated for you.

Bon Appetit'.

Next time spend a few more bucks and go down the road to the Embassy Suites. They will cook your breakfast to order right in front of you.

[greytdemocrat]

23. Embassy Suites

are the best!!!

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. You GO dude.

[trumad]

36. LOL---spot on

If they think they'll get bacon at the Comfort Inn---they've never been to a Comfort Inn. CI is not a bad hotel---but their breakfast is pretty awful.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

3. No porn? There go the Baptist conventions.

[niyad]

4. oh dear, such a major loss of income.

[Hekate]

5. When I'm traveling I like to treat myself to tasty but fattening foods I don't keep at home....

I love a good breakfast buffet. Well, should I ever be in Bernie's Socialist paradise, I shall try all the rest of their regional specialties.

[Wilms]

11. In a "Bernie's Socialist paradise" there are no "regional specialties".

All meals will be standardized by the central governing body.

[Hekate]

18. No no no, there must be aebelskivers and smoked salmon! I live near Solvang, I know these things!

Even Bernie knows this, I am sure.

[Wilms]

19. His proposal calls for Lutefisk.

No candidate is perfect.

[Hekate]

20. Lulz. I've never had the pleasure of lutefisk. I'm sure it will live up to its billing.

[Wilms]

22. Same here.

We should pressure Sanders to change his platform to allow aebelskivers and smoked salmon.

[KamaAina]

47. Well, he just sewed up Minnesota

[Lizzie Poppet]

43. Same here!

I spent years eating like someone on a training regimen...because that's what I was. I never really quit training, just cut back the mileage (bicycle racer...), and I don't usually have much of a taste for food that's bad for me. Breakfast food, however, is a huge exception. When I travel, it's time for pancakes, hash browns (w/ gravy!), and about a hog's worth of bacon.

[Nye Bevan]

6. I love when these hotel chains make a big song and dance about removing pay-per-view porn.

How many people these days are going to spend $25 on porn in their hotel room when there is an infinite supply of the stuff for free available on their smartphone? (or so I have been told)

[HuckleB]

7. What does banning bacon/sausage have to do with progressive politics?

I'm sure you can make an "argument," but, seriously...

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. This is one of the rasons of factory farming

that lovely water came from a hog farm

And here are some articles

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141028-hog-farms-waste-pollution-methane-north-carolina-environment/

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/16/water-air-quality-fears-conflict-with-pig-farms.html

That said, practices can indeed change (and this might help since this is a large customer) making industrial farming more sustainable. Again a few links

http://www.beyondfactoryfarming.org/get-informed/industrial-vs-family-farms-comparison

So that is a way to more or less tell you, that indeed, there is part of a wider world. Agriculture is now a huge battleground between some progressives, and big AG. And it is not just the usual you hear in this place.

[HuckleB]

24. Can you answer the question?

Or is it just going to be the classic "look at these links" routine?

Come on. This is DU. Show respect.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. I answered the question

I used links... you can either go to the links and realize that there is plenty of egregious practices with factory farming, and a problem across several states in the United States where they are polluting waterways. This is not sustainable and don't get me started with the origin of H1N1 (Texas that made it to Veracruz, from a Smithfield farm).

And if you think look at these links is just bad practice, well, that is your choice... have a good day, night what have you. I gave you the information. I cannot force you to read it.

[HuckleB]

30. I'm way too old for this.

I asked a specific question, and you offered no answer.

No one who cares is going to be fooled. I certainly am not.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. So links explaining the issue to you is being fooled

ok.

People complain here that people give them no evidence. When people give evidence they complaint they got fooled. Strange days we live in.

[HuckleB]

37. Your links do no such thing.

They make claims and look at things in a vacuum, and that doesn't match up with what progressive politics should be about.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. I guess national geographic

And CNBC are making empty claims? It is not as if went and cited Enews here.

I think you will also think the Environmental Protection Agency is also making crazy claims about excess nutrient in the water polluting water ways

http://www2.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/sources-and-solutions

Go inform the EPA on that. I am betting, I have a clue how this is done. that the reporters writing for both the discredited, crazy claims outfits, that have won pullitzers for their reporting. started at a site like oh EPA.

[niyad]

41. nadin answered your question, gave you some very good information. the fact that it

apparently wasn't formatted to your exact (but unwritten) specifications, does not mean that she did not answer your question. please do not harass someone who took the time to give you the information you requested.

[niyad]

39. hi, nadin!! thank you for those wonderful links, will have to check them out later.

hope you are well, and have a wonderful holiday.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. You too

[snooper2]

38. This is the problem with the internet, some stupid story from another country becomes "news"

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Unles I miss my cue North Carolina is still in the United States

here are more photos for you to enjoy





These two are under control though. They are not going into waterway, one good flood though, and we are off to the races.

Here the first one is actually involved in a lawsuit

http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/01/nc-hog-farm-threatened-with-citizen-lawsuit-over-w.html

But perhaps you are correct, these issues about sustainability and water pollution and excess nutrients are not part of the united states. After all, North Carolina is on another place. I did not know that. Thanks. Now I know. And as they say, the more you know...

Here is what the EPA has to say about this by the way... you know the United Staes Environmental Protection Agency. I could side WHO, but who cares about those UN agencies? They are not american after all. And you should know our own very own, EPA getting sued by people for not regulating these issues very well, and something about regulatory capture, related to this, but not fully relevant.

http://www2.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/sources-and-solutions

They are pretty much aware of the issue Oh and you do remember the piggy flu that we had in Mexico? This is how these stories go international, The earliest H1N1 patients were in Texas, a couple years before, two or three actually, CDC has the data, nothing major, none died... next I will be told Texas is not in the US either... I am sure Texans will be happy. Anyway. it was not yet making the jump from piggy to human that easily. A piggy from one of these farms, from Smithfield, was sent to their facility in Veracruz, where for the record they have similar pits of crap... and that is when the H1N1 made the final jump to well, now I like humans fully and started killing people. So in case you are missing what I am saying, these pools are also thought to be good grounds for some, a very limited number, of emerging diseases.

As to the story coming from abroad... perhaps, sustainability and factory farming are very relevant issues of discussion in the united states. This piggy issue affects several states in major ways. In general how we grow food is very relevant to the generation of green house gasses as well, and for water pollution. So a company saying, no more, they are making a statement about that sustainability not your sensibilities. I personally would have gone for locally sourced, humanely raised, sustainably raised pigs... (and do the same for chickens by the way), but that tends to be far more expensive. For starters, no more cages where they cannot turn.

[snooper2]

52. I don't know what you are going on about, I responded to post #7

which was in response to the original OP-

Which stated-


"Nordic Choice hotel group announced that Comfort Hotels in Scandinavia and the Baltics will stop serving bacon and sausage on its breakfast menus."


I didn't know North Carolina was in the Baltics but you learn something new every day!

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. It was **you** who infomred me of that, that NC is not in the US

and for the record, the piggy industry is a major EXPORT industry in the United States.

With a few of the Free Trade Agreements in final stages this will only get far more connected, perhaps worst, depending on your mileage.

Here, from the horse's mouth, no pun... it probably should be the piggy's mouth, but hey

https://www.usmef.org/news-statistics/statistics/

And here it is why it is relevant... again from people who have no damn clue in the United States Government...

Since the beginning of the century, the United States has been one of the top five annual pork exporters in the world, shipping over 4 billion pounds CWE of fresh and frozen pork cuts to foreign markets. The United States is a relatively recent entrant to the international pork market, becoming a net exporter in 1995. Since 2000, net exports have increased nearly eleven-fold.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/animal-products/hogs-pork/trade.aspx

This is how North Carolina and hog production and sustainable practices in the United States is actually tied to this stupid non story from the Baltics.

There is this amazing series produced in the 1990s called CONNECTIONS. If you can, find it and watch it. I just did for you somewhat of that exercise. He did it for other stuff.

here

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/

[snooper2]

54. I still don't know what you are talking about, you may be on wrong sub-thread

anyway...not important-

Lets rock to some Katy Perry!

[Mosby]

8. Why is pork not sustainable?

[Travis_0004]

13. Probably not sustainable to their bottom line

Get rid of bacon, replace with oatmeal, give CEO raise.

[Hekate]

32. I don't know about Scandinavia, but American hog farms are offal factories. They are huge operations

....and their sewage alone -- well, apparently they don't flush, and last I read they basically had open air septic systems draining out of the plants. Worst case scenario some dam breaks and it all drains toward the nearest river.

They're just bad for the environment, and in that sense not "sustainable."

Yeah, I know I said in another post that I eat bacon occasionally. It is delicious, but now I feel guilty.

[callous taoboy]

33. Hog farms use massive sprinklers to discharge the sewage which rains down on nearby neighborhoods.

Agri-business is a huge polluter of creeks and air. Chesapeake Bay has been greatly harmed by all of the runoff.

[surrealAmerican]

34. It's not like our chicken farms are much better, either.

I guess there must be a bigger difference in Sweden, or they'd have to do away with the eggs too.

[restorefreedom]

35. meat production is one of the biggest polluters on the planet

also greenhouse gas, deforestation, water pollution, methane, etc.

big ag is in its final days. if the planet is to survive, we will have to move to a planet based diet.

people won't like it but we don't hsve much choice

[KamaAina]

50. A planet-based diet?

No thanks. Jupiter and Saturn give me gas.

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. I cannot chew on Uranus

[KamaAina]

58. Thread win!

[restorefreedom]

60. hahaha clumsy thumbs! nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. That's ok, thanks for the laugh

we all knew what you meant

[restorefreedom]

62. the comebacks were great! nt

[JonathanRackham]

9. Oh the humanity.

I guess there's always bourbon for breakfast.

[niyad]

12. or champagne

[JonathanRackham]

15. Can I brush my teeth with champagne too?

[niyad]

40. if it is your champagne, you can use it however you like!

[dlwickham]

27. oatmeal with bourbon?

I'd think rum would go better with the brown sugar

[dembotoz]

14. perhaps smoke and mirrors to cheapen the breakfast and not cook anything

[pipoman]

17. Yep, meat protein is the most expensive thing on their buffet

They will replace it with some more carbs.

[gvstn]

28. That is exactly it.

The whole point of going out for breakfast is that someone cooks it for you. Sausage and bacon are both a bit of a pain to make at home, that's why you order them when you out.

Anyone can scramble an egg or make some instant oatmeal or pour a bowl of cereal. You go for omelets (I usually order eggs over-easy because I can't make them for my life, never get it right) and bacon or sausage.

[brooklynite]

25. UNREC

Last edited Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)

The report did NOT say that red meat caused cancer; it said that PROCESSED red meat caused cancer; add to which, pork is not red meat; add to which, why is a Swedish hotel serving bacon in the first place?

[KamaAina]

49. Indeed. European bacon generally sucks.

Or so I have been told.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. Red meat is in the second category for cancer; and the OP is about processed red meat

(ie bacon and sausage). And, yes, pork is red meat.

1. What do you consider as red meat?

Red meat refers to all mammalian muscle meat, including, beef, veal, pork, lamb, mutton, horse, and goat.

2. What do you consider as processed meat?

Processed meat refers to meat that has been transformed through salting, curing, fermentation, smoking, or other processes to enhance flavour or improve preservation. Most processed meats contain pork or beef, but processed meats may also contain other red meats, poultry, offal, or meat by-products such as blood.

Examples of processed meat include hot dogs (frankfurters), ham, sausages, corned beef, and biltong or beef jerky as well as canned meat and meat-based preparations and sauces.
...
7. Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean exactly?

In the case of red meat, the classification is based on limited evidence from epidemiological studies showing positive associations between eating red meat and developing colorectal cancer as well as strong mechanistic evidence.

Limited evidence means that a positive association has been observed between exposure to the agent and cancer but that other explanations for the observations (technically termed chance, bias, or confounding) could not be ruled out.

8. Processed meat was classified as Group 1, carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean?

This category is used when there is sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in humans. In other words, there is convincing evidence that the agent causes cancer. The evaluation is usually based on epidemiological studies showing the development of cancer in exposed humans.

In the case of processed meat, this classification is based on sufficient evidence from epidemiological studies that eating processed meat causes colorectal cancer.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

Just as well there is no unrec, eh?

[Glassunion]

42. Thanks Obama

[KamaAina]

48. I thought this was going to be about Islam!

"zOMFG!!11!!1!! Shari'a law has arrived in Sweden! Are we next?"

But srsly, couldn't he find a sustainable supplier of pork the way Chipotle does (or tries to)?

[niyad]

51. I did not know that there were any sustainable suppliers of pork, here or in europe.

[HuckleB]

59. It's not really true for Chipotle, either.

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/16/the_self_serving_myth_of_chipotle_why_fast_food_meat_can_never_truly_be_sustainable/

[restorefreedom]

63. i put chipotle and whole foods in the same category

marketing goodness, health, and sunshine but in reality delivering only slightly less damaging products while making a yuuuge profit.

[HuckleB]

64. Indeed, and sometimes what they're doing is actually worse for the environment.

What does Chipotle’s switch to non-GMO ingredients mean for pesticide use?

http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2015/05/what-does-chipotles-switch-to-non-gmo-ingredients-mean-for-pesticide-use/

[restorefreedom]

65. i like the idea that someone is offering non gmo, but if they really wanted to put their $ where their food is,

they would embrace IPM and veganic plant production, maybe hydroponic. there are ways to avoid gmo without hammering the pesticides.

but the above options are expensive, and they would not be able to completely pass that on to consumers, because it would make the products prohibitively expensive.

all about the balance sheet in the end....

[LittleBlue]

55. The Nordic countries sound really boring

Those countries are starting to resemble a collectivist dystopia. It's okay to let individuals decide whether they want to eat bacon or watch porn.

I never associated being progressive with running people's lives for them.