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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 07:31 AM Nov 2015

Looking-somebody-in-the-eye-while-black

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/25/1454234/--Reckless-eyeballing-really-is-a-thing-for-Megyn-Kelly

Amidst angry protests over Chicago’s release of the Laquan McDonald execution video, Fox News’s Megyn Kelly, anchor of The Kelly File, was appalled at a protestor who stared down a Chicago police officer.

Kelly had a real problem with what the young man was doing, saying that she didn’t think it was appropriate.


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“Reckless eyeballing” is actually a thing. And Megyn Kelly is mad about it.

This is not something that some white folks take lightly. That’s evidenced by this report from October on a 12-year-old black child who was suspended from his Catholic school after engaging in a staring contest with a fellow student. The student happened to be a white female. Or this report from August of this year, when a man in Dayton, Ohio, recorded his interaction with a police officer. The man was stopped for “making direct eye contact” with the officer. Or this report from two years ago when a 14-year-old boy was brutally restrained for giving a cop “dehumanizing stares.”


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http://wp.nyu.edu/howtoseetheworld/2015/05/30/auto-draft-46/

The question remains: why did Freddie Gray die? Because he made eye contact with a police officer. If that seems absurd, it is because we forget the long history of accusing African American men of ‘reckless eyeballing.’ Under slavery, that meant making any eye contact with a person in authority. Under segregation, it referred to any alleged look at a white woman, part of Jim Crow’s terror. Today, it is a tool of the prison-industrial complex, where ‘don’t eyeball me’ is a standard command.
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Looking-somebody-in-the-eye-while-black (Original Post) DetlefK Nov 2015 OP
Black people eyes on the loose! What next... Black people are breathing on me! ck4829 Nov 2015 #1
Not to take a thing away... cactusfractal Nov 2015 #2
Guard your eyes fasttense Nov 2015 #5
The protester was pissed, and the cop was ashamed Android3.14 Nov 2015 #3
for GENERATIONS heaven05 Nov 2015 #4
Kelly thinks black people should look at the ground when white people approach. Scuba Nov 2015 #6
Authority being afraid of being "eyeballed" packman Nov 2015 #7

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
1. Black people eyes on the loose! What next... Black people are breathing on me!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 07:39 AM
Nov 2015

Good lord, and I'm 'white' by the way.

cactusfractal

(496 posts)
2. Not to take a thing away...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 08:42 AM
Nov 2015

...from the horrible Jim Crow treatment of black Americans, but the "don't eyeball me/my area" thing in a correctional officer context is a control/discipline mechanism employed in military basic training and appropriated by prison guards to establish dominance. "I can look at you, but you will not look at me." It's not so much an anti-black thing.

What they're striving for in boot camp, as I recall quite vividly, is the inculcation of discipline sufficient to look unflinchingly straight ahead while one or more drill instructors unleash verbal (if you're lucky) hell on the recruit from all sides. One rapidly develops the ability to look right through anything and anyone.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
5. Guard your eyes
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

It's a common command in the military to new recruits. You don't want soldiers in formation looking around and not paying attention to commands. That cop should have guarded his eyes. The cop was there as part of a unit. If staring protesters bothered him, he should Not have been there and he seriously needs more training.

But I think this black folks looking at white folks is something different. You can challenge someone with a stare, a look, a bold glance. But adults tolerate each others looks. In a free country, you are free to look wherever you want. As my mother use to say, even a cat can look at a queen.

But that is in a free society. Where all people are equal. As I use to tell my mother, they would catch that looking cat and throw it out of there.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. for GENERATIONS
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:15 AM
Nov 2015

it was an lynching offense to look massa and missy directly in the eye because a black person couldn't look a 'superior' being in the eye..... This form of white domination went away for a while but now is back. Well goddamn, will the 'superior' being ever learn? Nothing superior about you. I stared one down the other day who was trying to intimidate/eye**** me. I ended up laughing at him when he sheepishly dropped his stare. Just like before, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 80's, 90's and this first 15 years of the 21st century, their domination tactics won't work for long before a reaction, WITHOUT fear, to those tactics, becomes mandatory.

And as an aside: this country is fast going BACK to the dogs.

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