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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump knows what the Republican base has become even if mainstream punditry refuse to acknowledge it
As much as theyve awakened to the threat that Trumpism poses to their party, Republicans and the conservative intelligentsia lack the self-awarenessor perhaps the temerityto acknowledge that though they now resent it, theyve been courting it all along.https://newrepublic.com/article/124632/gop-finally-emerging-trump-denialism
Trump hardly comes out of nowhere. There's really little about his ascent that is surprising at all if you've been paying attention to the direction of our politics in the last decade. I don't mean that I would have predicted he'd do this well. I didn't. What I mean is that the nature of his success, the effectiveness of his strategy and message, is entirely predictable. What Trump has done is taken the half-subterranean Republican script of the Obama years, turbocharge it and add a level of media savvy that Trump gained not only from The Apprentice but more from decades navigating and exploiting New York City's rich tabloid news culture. He's just taken the existing script, wrung out the wrinkles and internal contradictions and given it its full voice. There's very, very little that is new or unfamiliar in Trump's campaign beside taking the world of talk radio, conservative media and base Republican hijinx and pushing them to the center of the national political conversation. If you're surprised, it's because you haven't been paying attention.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/that-s-why-we-do-this
It is Trump who has set the pace. His talent for manipulating the darkest emotions of the conservative id, while minimizing specific policy commitments, has been on full display. In every public appearance, he emitted new, authoritarian-sounding warnings. Were going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule, he vowed. Were going to have to look at the mosques. Were going to have to look very, very carefully. Every new sound bite set off a profitable fervor of media speculation, forcing other candidates to raise the bidding or be left behind. Its not about closing down mosques, insisted Rubio, placing himself rhetorically to Trumps right, its about closing down anyplace whether its a café, a diner, an internet site anyplace where radicals are being inspired.
The tea-party movement had initially fashioned itself as wildly anti-statist. Now its advocates have veered into wild authoritarianism. None of this requires intellectual justification in lizard-brain America, and Trump, for now, is the Lizard King.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/terrorism-in-the-age-of-trump.html#
malaise
(269,008 posts)Look there are ReTHUGs and state. local and federal levels who think the same way.
Never forget Steve Scalise is their Majority Whip. How does the base differ from Bachman and Palin and that crazy one from Texas, Louie Gohmert. Cruz is in the fugging Senate.
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)All of the names you mentioned are mere stepping stones on the path to Trump and his success.
SharonAnn
(13,775 posts)wolfie001
(2,240 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)wolfie001
(2,240 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and thus vulnerable to pushes that direction -- though many would fight back hard ifthey realized what was happening.
A good half of all conservatives, though, particularly social and strong religious conservatives, are almost synonymous with authoritarian followers. They're not just vulnerable -- they're not happy unless they have a strong leader to follow as they clean up all the "outliers" who are despoiling their land. (After all, Pol Pot didn't really kill millions of people, busy little strongman that he was.)
Note that threats always cause a majority of people to become more conservative and more authoritarian. They're eager for a strong, militaristic leader who'll rally them to protect through attack. A major terrorist attack on the U.S. between now and November 6 could be a really bad thing for democracy.
My guess is that this Jeb?'s biggest problem. He can't come across as the nationalistic, white-protectionist, Bible-waving strongman so much of the right is looking for, not just the base. Notably, authoritarians love the establishment and serve it unquestioningly when they think it's their establishment.
Funtatlaguy
(10,877 posts)If their Minister says something is so, it is so.
If their Doctor, Banker, or politician says it is so, it is so.
Of course, these authority figures must be white, male and Christian.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and switching to obedience mode is a major part of the danger authoritarians pose. I am wondering these days if the figure MUST always be white and male, or even Christian, any more though. Look at Cain and Carson. Look at conservatives for Romney and Sanders. Look at those who would be glad to vote for Fiorina over Hillary. Of course, it's far more likely to be than not.
Trump's white, male, and at least declared Christian. All thought of the general makes me nervous because of what is at stake, but I'm starting to smile a bit at the thought that it could be Trump on stage with Hillary.
Justice
(7,188 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)The republican base hasn't become anything . They've always been this way but they were 'forced' to keep it to themselves. FOX, Limbaugh and other MSM have 'legitimized' this crap over the past few decades. Now we're at the point where it appears 'OK' to the frightened little bastards to express their deeply held racism.
I dont' know a republican personally that is not anti-Semitic and racist right down to their socks. Even the ones that claim to be kristian.
That's been my experience anyway.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Although why they still call themselves 'republicans' is a question.
The more they learn the more they realize what is going on.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)looking into the politics of the party.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...they appeared to be caring, humane beings was in front of a crowd (that they knew didn't share their views)...or a TV camera.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Their base have been selfish isolationists for over a century.
It was somewhat controlled by the party's more moderate wing with more success in the past than recently. In recent years the base has brought its racism, homophobia, misogyny, nativism and xenophobia into full view. Their antipathy towards minorities, gays, women, immigrants, refugees and foreigners is plain for everyone to see.
The rest of their party has enabled this and, one hopes, will pay the price.
Buzz505
(92 posts)moondust
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is emboldened and bubbling to the surface after a few decades of RW media getting rich spewing hate and propaganda and the Intertubes enabling bigots everywhere to assemble and organize much like ISIS.
What to do?
Botany
(70,508 posts).... Bill O'Rielly was caught telling a shit load of lies and he is still #1 in his time
slot, Limbaugh and Fox are based on lying to the people, and people like the Koch
brothers spend millions of $s to lie about basic science.
"They" built this monster and now it is gonna tear them a new ass.
BTW this story alone should have sunk D. Trump.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141270667
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)have already called it for Trump and I with my minority progressive voice am constantly reminded by them that they will be supporting any and everything that Trump does as President no matter how far to the extreme right I think it is and they will laugh as they constantly remind me that I allowed Obama to use his pen and phone and in their words "destroy the office of the Presidency forever through his illegal executive actions subverting all manner of law".... They are lost in their delusions...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)minority white party, and for each of these bloviators is a conservative who is unhappy enough with what the party has become to at least drop the label...
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)is merely the fruit of what started with Reagan and has been growing ever since. None of it should surprise anyone. Anyone who has voted Republican or supported the Republican Party in any way over the last 35 years is complicit in what's going on today.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Ronnie Raygun not only screwed over the U.S., he make it OK to be a red neck, minority and woman hating, homophobic, rich asshole.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)warmongering, theocratic, anti-tax, anti-union, anti-abortion, anti-public employee, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-poor and anti-immigrant.
I'm sure more could be added.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)IMO, Ronnie Raygun was the beginning of the end of the Middle Class.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)The GOP had the only President who ever resigned in disgrace because he was a crook.
They blamed America.
So now they are destroying the country to get even ever since.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Actually it is scientifically proven that the more right wing bigot the lower the IQ
pangaia
(24,324 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)I saw that Trump mocked a disabled reporter at a speech in South Carolina, how absolutely hilarious. I'm surprised he hasn't used the R word to describe others. It is absolutely sickening how many people approve of this sort of behavior.
Peace
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)I am so disgusted watching them hurl hatred against blacks, gays, women who want control over their bodies, all minorities, Asians, anyone who is not white, RR and a "true 'mercan."
drray23
(7,633 posts)It happened gradually. Hitler was a politician for many years before he rose to power. He exploited the discontent of the citizens regarding their economic conditions and how they had been treated after WWI. Nobody pushed back. His party won the elections and the rest is history.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Our totally impotent press never says a word about his lies.
Our FF would be appalled.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)are people that would watch a Dallas Cowboys game and wonder who those Cheerleaders are rooting for; are they the guys in the Blue and White uniforms?
Seriously, the right has not only profited off the Trumps of the world, but also the George Zimmermans. Hell, they were trying to use Paris for every drop of political fuel. The difference is that the Jeb Bushes cannot admit they like this; they are the eternal "I read Playboy for the articles" types. What is scary is, in Germany, Hitler had to use the working class Brownshirts to gain power and establish his little geek elite, the Schutzstaffel. In "the night of the long knives" said Brownshirts got thrown under the Bus. Here, it seems the Billionaires are directly appealing to the thick necked brownshirts and offering the Bush Schutzstaffel as the people to throw under the Bus. Then again, why should this be a surprise, after all, in the 40's the Schutzstaffel like Goebbels made and directed the media machine, here, it is already pre made and pre driven by folks like Trump, who know EXACTLY what they are doing, and are capable of playing the media like a Harp.
Make no mistake about this, if ANY GOP gets in, especially Trump, this country will be a downward slide that makes the Reagan years look like FDR.