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Heard so far at dad's house:
Dump Trump quickly before SHE gets in!
Ted Cruz's star is rising.
Ted Cruz is brilliant.
Black -on- Black crime is way up.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)"They're coming to take me away..to the funny farm...where life is beautiful all day long and..."
narnian60
(3,510 posts)Yes, indeed.
callous taoboy
(4,585 posts)HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)John Randolph, the eccentric Virginia aristocrat, invented this phrase in the 1820's and used it against at least two of his Congressional colleagues. Henry Clay, he complained, was so brilliant, so capable and yet so corrupt that, ''like a rotten mackerel in the moonlight, he both shines and stinks.''
It was my mother's favorite description of lawyers she had dealt with in her life. It can also be applied to Ted Cruz.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)My wife's family is pretty much all Republican. My response today to much of any of their campaign comments will be "The Democrats can run a cardboard box in 2016 and will win the White House. "
Laxman
(2,419 posts)and it really isn't that important. My mom and dad are getting up there and won't be around much longer. The last thing I'm going to do is judge them on their political beliefs or waste my Thanksgiving arguing with a couple of old people who watch too much Fox News. They're still my parents and I love them anyway. They must have done something right to raise 5 liberal socially aware kids along with a bevy of similarly inclined grandchildren. When my father looks around the room and sees his Jewish son-in-law hugging his Muslim son-in-law or two of his Muslim grandchildren hanging with their Catholic, Presbyterian and Agnostic/Atheist cousins it's got to trigger a bit of the "Captain Kirk blowing up the computer with logic" response. I know he loves them all. Let it go. What are you going to do, change their minds over turkey? Is it really more important than your family? I'm certainly not going to let politics mess up my Thanksgiving. I don't care what they think or say about politics enough to let that happen. Besides, the reality in the room tells a much different story. Be confident in your own beliefs and enjoy the day.
callous taoboy
(4,585 posts)And this post is not meant to stir up shit in families today. It was posted in the spirit of what kind of lou-lou things are DUers hearing today, e.g. Ted Cruz is brilliant.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)Last year we were with the right wing of the family.. There was my thrice divorced niece with her newly adopted black daughter. The ingrained racism in this family has come back to bite them with a beautiful and loved granddaughter. My niece, still very Republican, has had her eyes opened by the racism she's experiencing with her daughter, coming from, of all places, her church. Last year we had a fun Thanksgiving with all of them. We laughed and ate and politics was off the table. It's the only way we can be together as a family, so we suck it up and just do it.
Doctor Who
(147 posts)The tie that bonds me to my family is stronger than our difference on political issues. People tend to loose sight of that, on both sides.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Oh well.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and they usually bring it up, assuming agreement of anyone there, as right wingers do.
I'm ignoring them this Thanksgiving. They all have everything they need, yet they have to whine about some brown people somewhere who are allegedly victimizing them somehow.
dilby
(2,273 posts)Currently at my dad's in AZ who was a lifelong Republican till after Bush Jr then went Libertarian for a little bit. But he almost made me fall out of my chair when he said he was a Sanders supporter, he is 67 a little racist, a little bigoted but still my dad.
I still have to go to my Mom's tonight and I already know she is a Trump supporter. And then there will be my brother who I am sure is going for Cruz or Rubio. It will take everything within my power not to lose my shit as we debate politics and social issues. My mom already calls me a pinko commie liberal which I am pretty proud about.
The_Commonist
(2,518 posts)Don't have any.
A couple of Thanksgivings ago, my niece said "Political arguments in this family are boring! Everyone agrees with everyone else..."
I expect more of the same this year.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)Pretty left-of-center family here. Wasn't sure about my son-in-law at first but my daughter got him to see the light.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)Ugh.
lastlib
(23,242 posts)When my neo-Nazi brother tells me that "Arab kids blow up so quickly these days," I'm going to smack him with the bread pudding--bowl and all.
callous taoboy
(4,585 posts)My family doesn't get that crass. They might in private, though. I could hear one of my brothers saying that.
lastlib
(23,242 posts)...that the Newtown massacre was a hoax by Obama to take his gunz..... . . I'll always wonder what he smoked in the 70s ???)
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)StopTheNeoCons
(892 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Even those who might disagree with me.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)in a political discussian with family on Thanksgiving Day.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)She's on her way to her boyfriend's parents house in Bum@#$% North Florida. When you google the town name a picture of a telephone pole and some shrubbery pops up. Very rural. Anyway, the Mom is OK but the Dad is full-on FOX News 24/7 true believer. Never turns it off. I told her to wait until the turkey comes out then start going "Goebbel Goebbel." It'll probably sail over the Dad's head but it'll be bit of a payback and make her feel better when the traditional racist tirades crank up.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)But then we talk about family memories, dinner, football, how your hair has changed since the last time we got together...
I can't remember EVER in my 54 years when there was an argument about politics or anything else at family dinners on ANY holiday.
It's how the C*****w's roll.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)told us how much she thought of Trump in July, we ripped her a new one, so didn't get any of that at Thanksgiving.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)We're hosting the dinner for our children. No Republicans here, just one right leaning independent, but he doesn't vote.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)My arch-conservative father argued that teachers are paid too much. He also expressed relief that the local country club had high fences, because, "We've got to keep the riff raff out somehow."
I've also been mocked for caring about the homeless and social justice. My father once said, "Hey, I think there's someone scratching at the window. They sound hungry. Maybe you could bring them out some food. God knows I won't."
After dinner he would always suggest that we hop in his Porche "and go see how the lower 90 percent lives."
Um...yeah. I haven't been home in 15 years. Best decision I ever made.
Too busy focusing on my wonderful husband and two lovely daughters.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)And all the other days of the year. Some are more liberal than me (though very few), some are moderate, some are conservative and some I don't know about. Still, all are family, and family is important. And at the end of the day, I think all want what is best for America, though their idea of what is "best" might differ from mind. Too much intolerance in this country for me to bring it to the dinner table on Thanksgiving.