Waffle House waitress shot, killed after telling customer not to smoke

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Investigators say an argument erupted when a waitress told a customer he couldn't smoke inside the restaurant. Johnny Mount, 45, refused to put out his cigarette, pulled out a handgun he had concealed under his shirt, and shot the woman once in the head.

http://www.wlox.com/story/30614080/police-argument-over-cigarette-leads-to-murder-at-biloxi-waffle-house


Is this a "Good Waitress with a Gun" scenario?

The prevalence of guns in this society makes this shit so easy and commonplace. I'm sick of it.

[RichGirl]

1. When he's not shooting people...

He's probably complaining about Obama bringing over dangerous refugee families!

[guillaumeb]

2. Yet another reason that the Founders wrote the Second Amendment.

I will wait for the gun lovers' responses here.

[madinmaryland]

3. Typical NRA member. FUCK THE NRA. nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

21. + infinity

[louis-t]

4. Very sad.

But at least his 2A rights weren't violated. Fuck you Wayne LaPierre.
edit: I wonder what his defense will be? "I felt threatened"?

[lastlib]

13. In the entire digital world, I don't think there is a font big enough...

...or bold enough, so this'll have to do:

[font size=10]FUCK YOU, WAYNE LaPEE-ERROR!! FUCK YOU, NRA!!
FUCKING DEATH-DEALING FUCKERS!![/font size]

that sort of conveys my sentiments.....

[still_one]

50. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[47of74]

54. A-Fucking-Men

Fuck the NRA and all the gun humpers.

[msongs]

5. gun owner murders woman nt

[lpbk2713]

6. Disgusting POS.

She was probably working that night to help pay for her family's Thanksgiving dinner.

I'm glad an asshole like this is out of circulation and I hope he has breathed his last
gulp of free air.

[Martin Eden]

7. Up until the moment he shot that woman in the head ...

... was he a good guy with a gun?

[LiberalElite]

8. Standing his ground, perhaps?

[tk2kewl]

9. Smoking in a restaurant is prohibited because it's bad for the health of others...

but guns?

[Fairgo]

10. Oh, Gawd...

That bit of irony is going to get infected.

[tk2kewl]

11. its the height of absurdity

[chervilant]

12. The height of abnormality!

What's become of our species that so many are so deranged? That shooting, at almost point blank range, another person in the head!!! It defies understanding!

[AlbertCat]

19. It defies understanding!

Not when it's "all about me!" and his god given right to do whatever he pleases, regardless of some law made by a "useless" government. Libertarian, man! Fuck community! That's socialism!

[KamaAina]

47. Emphatic thread win!!

[TeddyR]

14. So what is your solution?

I'd like to see fewer murders as well. How do we accomplish that?

[Enrique]

16. reduce the number of guns

make it more likely that the Johnny Max Mounts of the world can't get guns.

[passiveporcupine]

18. First of all, don't let people walk around anywhere they like

with a concealed weapon. If you are a waitress serving a customer with a concealed weapon, you don't even know to be on your guard.

[hack89]

22. How do we know it was a legal concealed weapon?

criminals illegally carry all the time and no law will prevent that.

[passiveporcupine]

24. concealed weapons just increase the odds.

You must be a gun advocate or you would not be asking ridiculous questions like this.

[hack89]

37. So you have no idea whether he was legally carrying or not.

thanks.

[Hekate]

43. WTF difference would that make? Don't even bother to justify the absurdity. nt

[hack89]

53. I thought we were talking about legal concealed carry?

we can change the subject if you want.

[passiveporcupine]

44. It doesn't matter

it was still a gun and she probably didn't know he had it. Not that that would have stopped her from trying to enforce the rules, but maybe if he was acting nasty, she might have talked to the owner first...and gotten help.

You think only people who have a criminal record use guns to kill people? Seriously?

[hack89]

56. The point is banning concealed carry would not make the world a safer place

because violent people will carry guns and hurt people regardless. That's what they do.

[passiveporcupine]

63. Yes, it would make the world a safer place

because many crimes are commited by gun users who are first time users of guns to kill people. Would it end all crime? No, of course not. But many of them are legal gun owners. Many of them may be legal to carry concealed weapons.

We still don't have a way to handle mentally ill gun owners, or men who abuse/kill wives. Many of these have been threatening but have no record and can still own a weapon or carry concealed.

The fewer guns we have, the fewer crimes and accidents we have. It's pretty simple, really.

[whopis01]

58. By that logic we should have no laws.

If laws do not change the behavior of people, why do we have them?

Does the fact that it is illegal to steal a car prevent a criminal from doing so? Of course not. But if someone does steal a car and gets caught, then they can be put in jail, in an attempt to prevent them from stealing more cars.

The same logic applies here. But for some reason, there are a group of people that seem to feel that when it comes to guns, we must let the lawbreakers run the show.

[hack89]

60. It illegal to shoot someone

that is a good law. It is illegal for certain people to own guns - another good law. People are jumping to the conclusion that legal concealed carry is the problem here. Just pointing out that we have no idea if that is the case here.

[jonno99]

32. Well, the first thing we do is get rid of "mean people" - after that it's easy...nt

[Hoyt]

33. Folks like you need to quit feuling gun mania, as a start. Pass it on to gungeoneers.

[valerief]

15. Another good guy with his gawd-given right to a gun.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. What was that propaganda "An Armed Society is a Polite Society"?

Guess they'll spin the shooter as polite somehow.

[AlbertCat]

20. polite somehow.

Well, I'm sure it didn't bother any of the other costumers, right?

[passiveporcupine]

27. It must have been impolite to ask him to put out his cigarette

Even if it was restaurant policy.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Perhaps it was state law or municipal bylaw. nt

[perdita9]

23. This is why I don't want students bringing guns into my college class

All it takes for a student having a bad day and the next thing you know, we're all dodging bullets.

[mountain grammy]

25. Tragic and horrific..

a 52 year old woman working the night shift, just trying to earn a fucking living, crosses a middle aged white guy who had the need to carry a deadly weapon to protect him from a dangerous waitress interfering with his right to smoke.

As a DUer said on a different thread "When you have a loaded gun, you just feel a strong desire to shoot someone with it."

[TryLogic]

45. I agree. Having a gun handy makes it much too easy to use the gun rather than one's brain.

[bearssoapbox]

26. Here's a better, more truthful headline

An NRA, Second Amendment backed terrorist murders a working waitress because she told him he couldn't smoke.



Every. Fucking Day.

It's got to stop.

I don't know how because the gun mentality is so ingrained but DAMN!

[MarianJack]

28. Gee,...

...we better be careful of those Syrians!

PEACE!

[valerief]

30. Here's the asshole, lest other assholes say he was probably black.

[Hoyt]

34. Poster yahoo for the concealed carry crowd.

[hifiguy]

46. Just what I expected.

Looks meaner than a snake and dumber than a stump.

[juxtaposed]

48. You saying he looks meaner, makes him seem tuff. I diagree, nothing more than a punk

[hifiguy]

59. His gun makes him a Big Man

in his own tiny mind.

He will find out what a "badass" he is when he get to spend the next 40 years in the slammer. WITHOUT a gun.

[cer7711]

31. Never forget: EVERYONE'S a law-abiding citizen . . .

. . . until they're not.

[raccoon]

35. I bet he's a misogynist. I hope he gets put away for a long time.nt

[qwlauren35]

36. If

they declare that he's mentally ill, I'll PUKE.

[Maraya1969]

38. Obviously he is defending his right as a US citizen to smoke.

[Person 2713]

39. Makes this shit so easy yeah but guns n' stuff

[liberalnarb]

40. We have a serious gun problem in this country

I wish Bernie would get stronger on the issue

[FairWinds]

41. Call it what it is . .

Terrorism.

[liberal N proud]

42. You can't cross anyone these days, they may be paking

I know the gun nuts don't understand or care, but this is what I fear with so many packing guns. Too many hot heads.

[NCjack]

49. I can already see the NRA's solution: Would not have happened

if the waitress was packing heat.

[EndElectoral]

51. If she had a gun in her apron this could have been avoided.

[randome]

55. No, if she had a gun drawn and pointed and cocked at every customer she talked with...

...then this could have been avoided.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[EndElectoral]

61. Yes, I was using sarcasm.. how often have we heard the RW wingnuts use that reasoning.

[eggplant]

52. Can we all take a breath for a moment and stop talking about the shooter?

Maybe a moment of tasteful silence about the victim, rather than the motives of the shooter?

Waffle House officials also added that Julie had been employed with the company as a salesperson for eight years, and had spent the last two years at the Hwy. 90 location. Officials gave WLOX the following statement: "This senseless tragedy is a shock for the Waffle House family. Julie was a friend to many as well as a valued member of the Waffle House team. She will be greatly missed. Our prayers are with her family, friends, co-workers and customers."

[MADem]

57. How horrible. nt

[BeyondGeography]

62. I've been to all those Waffle Houses on that stretch of 90

Down there on business 2x/yr. for many years. All the waitresses I've dealt with are sweet as can be.

[Spazito]

64. Locking...

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