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Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:57 PM

Beware media facts and assumptions while incidents in progress

Media will report things to keep viewers tuned in. Rumors multiply. Inaccuracies are reported as fact.

The PP shooting is still happening and please beware of believing pretty much anything at this point or making assumptions as the situation is fluid. Eventuality the facts wiki come out. Patience, please.

Thank you.

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Reply Beware media facts and assumptions while incidents in progress (Original post)
uppityperson Nov 2015 OP
arcane1 Nov 2015 #1
uppityperson Nov 2015 #6
PatrynXX Nov 2015 #28
rollin74 Nov 2015 #2
uppityperson Nov 2015 #4
yyes Nov 2015 #5
Rex Nov 2015 #11
yyes Nov 2015 #16
uppityperson Nov 2015 #21
951-Riverside Nov 2015 #7
Glassunion Nov 2015 #23
Lint Head Nov 2015 #17
B2G Nov 2015 #3
uppityperson Nov 2015 #8
Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #9
uppityperson Nov 2015 #10
BKH70041 Nov 2015 #12
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #13
pnwmom Nov 2015 #14
Lurks Often Nov 2015 #15
Glassunion Nov 2015 #24
Scuba Nov 2015 #18
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #19
Glassunion Nov 2015 #25
NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #20
uppityperson Nov 2015 #22
Generic Brad Nov 2015 #26
Logical Nov 2015 #27
uppityperson Nov 2015 #29
iandhr Nov 2015 #30
uppityperson Nov 2015 #31

Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:59 PM

1. Your patient rationality has no place here!

 



Great post

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:04 PM

6. You are welcome. I'm reading as it happens too, but what and who and why won't be known for a bit

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:46 PM

28. knowing who's following me on FB

I was careful not to suggest anything

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:59 PM

2. best source for info is police scanner

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/54/web

lots of interesting stuff happening now

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:01 PM

4. However, even they do not always have true facts, can act on assumptions and report inaccurate info

Best source is wait until it's over, see who did what.

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:03 PM

5. It is but I have heard two different descriptions of the shooter

 

First it was a white male by the news sources but when I was listening to the cops talk they said black male


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Response to yyes (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:41 PM

11. Could there be two suspects?

 

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Response to Rex (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:02 PM

16. I don't think so

 

I heard this on the scanner when the cops were taking actual
fire and one officer was down.

Who the hell knows ?

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Response to yyes (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:54 PM

21. Welcome to DU.

What brought you to join us today?

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:06 PM

7. The socialmedia-fication of police work is why we need a nationwide encrypted system for LEOs

 

Like the TETRA system that went live in Europe 20 years ago.

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Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:10 PM

23. I'd rather they get body cams.

I'd only agree to a system like this for tactical situations. Otherwise, all of their everyday chitchat is public info.

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:11 PM

17. Been listening most of the day. Fascinating.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:00 PM

3. Thank you.

 

These definitive posts are ridiculous right now. There will be plently of time for review once this is over.

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Response to B2G (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:14 PM

8. I'm just noooooo fun. But see my sig line

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:31 PM

9. There are a lot more assumptions posted here on DU than in "the media" (nt)

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:37 PM

10. Sorry, that's what I meant, but wasn't clear

Beware media "facts" and beware making assumptions.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:44 PM

12. LOL!! You might as well be talking to a rock.

Difference being that rocks are smarter.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:46 PM

13. I know how things are done

 

and the media is giving you facts, and asking people who know how in general, one of these operations is run.

Now I have seen in the last 10 minutes MORE speculation here as to who is doing what, or why HERE than on MSNBC.

Myself I got a news story to write... this broke as we were chasing kids half our age, during the San Diego Black Lives Matter march...

My only thing, first gut reaction, was when we had the active shooter here recently, that CLOSED the airport mind you, not wall to wall coverage. Then it made sense. Once I knew the hard facts of casualties.

DU though is the last place I check for breaking news any more.



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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:51 PM

14. Yes. This is an excellent general rule. "Facts" are almost always

difficult to sort out in the early days after a crisis.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:55 PM

15. Too late, DU LOVES jumping to conclusions

 

when these tragedies happen. Always has, always will.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:11 PM

24. On DU 4chan is a news source.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:12 PM

18. Don't worry, they'll have their "expert" on shortly ...

 

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:15 PM

19. Thanks. There is already a thread where the OP jumped from "white male" to "christian terrorist".

A jump like that is actually kind of ________ (fill in with words that might be the truth but might also bring down the wrath of DU juries).

Thanks for posting your caution about rumors, inaccuracies, assumptions, and patience.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:12 PM

25. But, but, but... 4chan confirmed it.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:28 PM

20. Great words of wisdom. K and R

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:05 PM

22. Once this is done and the who did what why comes out, I may be very angry but I'm willing to

wait a bit and be angry accurately.


See my sig line

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:37 PM

26. It's too early to make assumptions - agreed

Until the details and motivation are known, all we have are unsupported wild guesses.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:45 PM

27. Why does discussing it on a message board hurt anything? nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:51 PM

29. I've no problem with discussing, just make sure you separate fact from rumor and speculation

Passing on rumors and speculation as fact can be an issue.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:23 AM

30. Precisely.

These types of things cause caous and mass confusion and initial reports are often incorrect.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:13 PM

31. Accuracy over speed.

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