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yyes

(46 posts)
4. take this with a grain of salt? This is all I could find
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:14 AM
Nov 2015

Dear, pictured after he surrendered to police, is originally from South Carolina. (Getty)

Robert Lewis Dear, the suspected gunman, is from Hartsel, Colorado. According to KDVR-TV, he was previously a resident of North Carolina and is originally from South Carolina.

Dear’s age has been reported to as both 57 and 59, but public records indicate that he is 57. His family is from South Carolina, according to public records and his father’s obituary.

According to court records, Dear has an arrest record in both North and South Carolina. He has been convicted of several traffic offenses, but has been arrested several times on more serious charges.

His convictions include seat belt violations, driver’s license violations, operating a vehicle in an unsafe mechanical condition and driving a non-registered vehicle.

Dear was charged in Colleton, South Carolina, with two counts of cruelty to animals in 2002, but was found not guilty in a bench trial.

He was also charged in 2002 in Colleton with charges of “peeping Tom” and eavesdropping. Those charges were dismissed
 

yyes

(46 posts)
6. People who commit animal cruelty are the lowest form of life
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:24 AM
Nov 2015

I love my dogs



And in no way am I trying to diminish what happened at PP by posting this.
So please anyone reading this what he did there to me a terrorist act .

polly7

(20,582 posts)
7. I agree, people who intentionally hurt animals
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:46 AM
Nov 2015

have no regard for any life; if they can inflict cruelty on the most trusting and innocent, there is nothing they aren't capable of. Scum of the earth.

If it is him who killed and injured those people, I hope he rots in prison for the rest of his life.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
8. Absolutely
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:28 AM
Nov 2015

And they don't bat an eye about doing the same to people!

And I must admit, my heartfelt love goes to pets everywhere. But I definitely support human equality and rights; and hate murders.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
9. Give you good odds he has a history of mental illness and is off his meds
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:00 AM
Nov 2015

another reason we need to rethink how we handle mental illness in this country.

Frustrating how we just ignore it until something horrific happens.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
15. That is certainly a possibility; the facial expression in his mugshot looks
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:54 AM
Nov 2015

pretty wacky, for lack of a better description. And there are plenty of PP clinics in the Carolinas, so why come out to Colorado to attack one there? None of it makes much sense, so I'm thinking mental illness, too.

And yeah, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SOME TOTALLY SUBSIDIZED MENTAL HEALTH CARE in this country so we can get these people off the streets and into treatment? Please?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. A group home situation would be a way to make sure they
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:26 PM
Nov 2015

take their meds but I don't know how we would keep them there as it appears he was quite capable of independent living. Any diagnosis of the need for group home placement would have to be a precise diagnosis of violent behavior.

And can't you just hear the scream about the cost.

Might even work to have someone administer drugs daily in person. I did that for a lady in my apartment building. Monitored the intake so that she would not forget.

I don't know what can be done. On second thought stopping all the hate talk would go a long way in stopping this.

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DTinAZ

(346 posts)
16. Appears to have same postal address as a church
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

Link to his CO voter registration on a privately-published website:

http://www.coloradovoters.info/by_number/6010/10372_robert_lewis_dear.html

PO BOX 101, HARTSEL, CO

Link to one of many 501(c)(3) directories showing that address as belonging to "Harvest Center of Colorado"

http://nonprofitlocator.org/organizations/co/hartsel/352381008-harvest-center-of-colorado

Very little info is out there about the "Harvest Center"

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
18. That's not the address that's in the link
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:58 PM
Nov 2015

The voter ID info show 809 Ouray St.

And says "female"

No political affiliation listed.

*edit: Never mind, just saw the mailing address v. the residential address.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
19. Nonprofits and churches, esp those that act as shelters
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:02 PM
Nov 2015

will often act as mailing addresses for the homeless

DTinAZ

(346 posts)
20. True, but he apparently wasn't homeless, and I don't think that church even exists
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:14 PM
Nov 2015

...except in a number of non-profit directories. Very odd.

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