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niyad

(132,440 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:19 PM Nov 2015

slain officer--gazette, slain officer--krdo, slain officer--denver post, slain officer, etc., etc.,

as though this slain officer was the only one of the victims who mattered. the others are mentioned, without names, in passing, further down in all the articles. sickening.

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slain officer--gazette, slain officer--krdo, slain officer--denver post, slain officer, etc., etc., (Original Post) niyad Nov 2015 OP
Maybe because they haven't been identified yet. nt B2G Nov 2015 #1
The headlines could just as easily read "3 dead" Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #4
All of them I've seen do. nt B2G Nov 2015 #5
The OP apparently has seen headlines where that is not true, Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #10
I've shown below that this is not the case n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #24
All you've shown is that the headlines have changed Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #38
Based on previous posts of the OP on this subject SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #39
Families might not have been notified. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #2
it isn't the fact that they aren't named, but that they are not considered important enough to niyad Nov 2015 #7
He is the only name they have so far it seems. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #11
again, it isn't that they are not named, they are barely even mentioned. looking at most of the niyad Nov 2015 #14
again, google it. B2G Nov 2015 #16
Again, I am merely putting that out there. The headlines I have read have said "3 Dead, 9 injured." ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #18
I heard the other victims beveeheart Nov 2015 #3
the point is, the way the headlines read, ONLY the UCCS officer (not CSPD) counts. names or niyad Nov 2015 #6
#PoliceLivesMatterMoreThanYoursCivilianScum 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #8
exactly niyad Nov 2015 #9
Two points: the slain officer was publicly identified first. Also, he was TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #12
the friggen point is, he is not the only victim--but the local headlines sure read that way. niyad Nov 2015 #15
His family must be devistated especially day after thanksgiving yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #36
And how do we know the other people killed or injured weren't trying to save others? Retrograde Nov 2015 #35
I'm sure we'll hear about the others when their families want to TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #37
Campus police are not always limited to campus RandySF Nov 2015 #42
Google "Colorado Springs shooting", and let me know what you get B2G Nov 2015 #13
I do not need to google, I know each of the local sources, which are an embarassment to niyad Nov 2015 #17
Whatever you need to do to shove your square peg B2G Nov 2015 #20
since I am looking at 4 headlines right now in what passes for "news" in this community, I niyad Nov 2015 #22
Perhaps you could post links to them. nt B2G Nov 2015 #25
Hard copy newspapers are beholden to the AP ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #33
I seriously scratched my head over this too. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #19
The Denver Post SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #21
Please give us links to all of your other threads on thise same topic. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #23
Last thing I have a problem with. "Slain officer" was at least trying to respond to shooting. Hoyt Nov 2015 #26
thanks for missing the point. niyad Nov 2015 #27
The UK Guardian got it right malaise Nov 2015 #28
the guardian did, indeed, get it right: niyad Nov 2015 #29
DU needs to figure out this police hatred thing. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #30
+1. I'm fine with throwing the book at bad cops and the "good" ones who don't do anything about Hoyt Nov 2015 #31
Yep n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #32
+1 RandySF Nov 2015 #34
Reccomg this post. nt B2G Nov 2015 #40
The officer was a public official RandySF Nov 2015 #41
bs--I understand that the families had not been notified, and it wasn't about not knowing their niyad Nov 2015 #43

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
4. The headlines could just as easily read "3 dead"
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:33 PM
Nov 2015

but for some reason they're spotlighting only the LEO death, as if there is more importance to that death.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
10. The OP apparently has seen headlines where that is not true,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:38 PM
Nov 2015

where the death of the LEO was singled out and the deaths of the others weren't mentioned until the body of the article.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
38. All you've shown is that the headlines have changed
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:30 PM
Nov 2015

and they've changed again since your posting. For example, 5 minutes ago:

The Denver Post:

-Mayor: Planned Parenthood gunman was calm, methodical

-Police search through Planned Parenthood clinic following gunman's attack

-Officer slain in Planned Parenthood shootings was church elder, father of 2


Colorado Springs Gazette

Main headline:

Suspect identified in Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, 3 killed, 9 injured

Sidebars

Local & State

-Obama, Hickenlooper, Lamborn, others respond to shootings at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs

-Vigils planned for Colorado Springs shooting victims

-Shooting suspect being held without bond; court appearance scheduled for Monday

-Timeline of events: Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood

-Death of UCCS police officer in Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting confirmed


Still little in the way of acknowledgement of all victims but the LEO's death is moving down in favor of suspect stories and political/public response.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
39. Based on previous posts of the OP on this subject
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

The OP wouldn't be happy unless the headline read "Two citizens killed" with no mention of the LEO, or better yet, "scumbag cop dies too".

The LEO hate with the OP is strong.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
2. Families might not have been notified.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:31 PM
Nov 2015

If it was my sister/brother/mother/father/loved one, I wouldn't want that name out there so quickly either.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
7. it isn't the fact that they aren't named, but that they are not considered important enough to
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

be part of the headlines--as though the UCCS officer was the only victim.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
11. He is the only name they have so far it seems.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

I can see how it looks that way. I'm totally not downplaying what you are trying to say. I'm just putting out an alternative. There's not a lot to say about them maybe because families don't know/don't want it out there yet.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
14. again, it isn't that they are not named, they are barely even mentioned. looking at most of the
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:52 PM
Nov 2015

local headlines, one would not even know there were many other victims.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
18. Again, I am merely putting that out there. The headlines I have read have said "3 Dead, 9 injured."
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

I have seen side pieces about the officer because they have his name.

beveeheart

(1,541 posts)
3. I heard the other victims
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

will be named after the autopsies are completed, probably this afternoon.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
6. the point is, the way the headlines read, ONLY the UCCS officer (not CSPD) counts. names or
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

not, the fact that there ARE other victims is a pretty important point. would not know it from the local reporting, though.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. Two points: the slain officer was publicly identified first. Also, he was
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

killed in the line of duty--and it wasn't even HIS main duty, as he was a campus police officer responding off-campus. He died trying to save others. That should be noted.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
15. the friggen point is, he is not the only victim--but the local headlines sure read that way.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
36. His family must be devistated especially day after thanksgiving
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:08 PM
Nov 2015

Prayers all around. Clearly other notifications are being made as we will see soon. So horrible for them.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
35. And how do we know the other people killed or injured weren't trying to save others?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:07 PM
Nov 2015

I think this is a continuation of the glorification of police and to a lesser extent fire fighters that's been going on since 9/11. The media have pushed the message that the "first responders" are all good guys just itching to rush into danger so that we mere mortals can be safe - so let's give them all the military equipment they want and not question what they do. I am grateful that we have police and fire fighters who are for the most part competent at their jobs; I just don't think we should be holding them up while ignoring what other people do.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
37. I'm sure we'll hear about the others when their families want to
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:28 PM
Nov 2015

release that info. It doesn't diminish them to note that this gentleman died in the line of duty, and to honor him.

RandySF

(84,280 posts)
42. Campus police are not always limited to campus
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

I'm pretty sure U of CA can respond to off-campus emergencies if needed.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. Google "Colorado Springs shooting", and let me know what you get
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

Cause all of my results indicate 3 killed.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
17. I do not need to google, I know each of the local sources, which are an embarassment to
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

actual news.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
20. Whatever you need to do to shove your square peg
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

into a round hole. Knock yourself out.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
22. since I am looking at 4 headlines right now in what passes for "news" in this community, I
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:07 PM
Nov 2015

know whereof I speak.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
33. Hard copy newspapers are beholden to the AP
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

If they didn't update the story before they went to print.....

You're going to need to get with the 21st century if you want every detail at the ready. Local newspapers are underfunded and understaffed.

By the way, Colorado law is to not release victim's names until an autopsy is performed.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
19. I seriously scratched my head over this too.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:57 PM
Nov 2015

Even our local paper is carrying the "3 Dead, 9 Injured" AP headline. I do see side "interest" stories on the officer, but it's not leading the headlines locally here.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
21. The Denver Post
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:05 PM
Nov 2015

"Slain officer Garrett Swasey a church elder, father of 2" is the headline...the story talks about him because there is something know about him. Far different than the OP's implication that the headline was along the lines of "Slain Officer in Colorado Springs"

First link underneath the headline is "2 others killed, nine more wounded in shooting"

Colorado Springs Gazette: "Suspect identified in Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, 3 killed, 9 injured"

There is a link to the side "Death of UCCS police officer in Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting confirmed"

KRDO:

"Reports: Sources identify Planned Parenthood shooting suspect

Colorado Springs Police confirm a UCCS Police Officer and two civilians died in Friday's Planned Parenthood shooting."

Hardly the "doesn't anyone care about the civilian victims???" meme posited by the OP.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Last thing I have a problem with. "Slain officer" was at least trying to respond to shooting.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
30. DU needs to figure out this police hatred thing.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:38 PM
Nov 2015

It's rampant and fucking insane.

Seriously. Think. If thinking doesn't come easy, think hard.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. +1. I'm fine with throwing the book at bad cops and the "good" ones who don't do anything about
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

the bad ones. But, it's gotten out of hand.

RandySF

(84,280 posts)
41. The officer was a public official
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:41 PM
Nov 2015

The two other victims were likely private citizens (and possibly patients) whose families may not have been notified at that point. Cool your jets.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
43. bs--I understand that the families had not been notified, and it wasn't about not knowing their
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:06 PM
Nov 2015

names. reading comprehension is your friend. my POINT was that the coverage was completely focused on the officer (who once referred to democrats as "communists&quot with the others seemingly an afterthought.

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