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Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:52 PM Nov 2015

DUers, I need immediate help!

I'm debating a virulent right winger on the KRDO.com website in Colorado Springs, home of RWNJs and religious fascists - also location of the planned parenthood shooting. I stated that republican politicians drum up hate for people or organization, and at some point some mentally unbalanced person snapped. Well he's challenging me for proof. If I was on my PC I'd take on this task by myself, but I'm on an iPad, which is a bitch to cut and paste with (I must be missing something). Can anyone provide any links of ANY republican politician that has said inflammatory statement that may have led to violence? You would be doing me and us a great service and I would be very grateful. I would even take you off my ignore list. Please help!!!

Doesn't have to be about PP. Anything that show incitement by politicians, including Trump, Fiorina, Cruz, whatever!

Thank you!
Elm

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DUers, I need immediate help! (Original Post) Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 OP
cut n paste ananda Nov 2015 #1
Thai you, I know that, but it doesn't work well for me. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #9
Pro tip: PeaceNikki Nov 2015 #2
All talking with the person will do is raise your blood pressure. On DI, I simply pointed LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #4
These people are nuts. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #20
You are attempting to use logic and reason with people who have chosen to eshew logic and reason cleanhippie Nov 2015 #22
They are completely propagandized and brainwashed. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #24
While fox, Rush, and the GOP certainly have used it to their advantage... cleanhippie Nov 2015 #27
No thanks, I'm proud to operate in the material world. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #28
Lol. You are no glutton for punishment, that's for sure! cleanhippie Nov 2015 #29
It's bad enough dealing with reality! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #30
I jut read your sigline. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #31
I think that the police went to the bank first maybe someone ran in the bank LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #23
Exactamundo Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #5
Indeed. nt Crabby Appleton Nov 2015 #19
Here are two links that might help unapatriciated Nov 2015 #3
Thank you, but those would not be considered credible news sites by these people. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #11
HuffPost has links to other places under each comment, here.. uppityperson Nov 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #6
"We shouldn't be sending $500 million of taxpayer money to funding... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #7
Right here on DU: villager Nov 2015 #8
Link LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #10
That's a game you can't win nxylas Nov 2015 #12
Right Wing Calls to Violence StrayKat Nov 2015 #13
Well, what do you know! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #15
Post it again Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #16
I posted a link from breitbart - they deleted that too. I'm wondering if they allow links at all. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #17
Off the top of my head; Republicans (especially Sarah Palin) continual references to "Taking Aim"... DrewFlorida Nov 2015 #18
I try not to look at the comment sections of news articles 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #21
Two men in Boston beat up a Mexican. One said tRump's hate speech encouraged him to do it. KamaAina Nov 2015 #25
On the current home page Doubledee Nov 2015 #26
Palin had a map with targets.Giffords was one of the targeted. roody Nov 2015 #32

ananda

(35,194 posts)
1. cut n paste
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:55 PM
Nov 2015

On an iPad you press your finger on a place and then move
the edges so the blue highlight covers the passage. Then
you choose copy.

Go to the place you want to put the text, press on that space
and then hit paste. Voila!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
9. Thai you, I know that, but it doesn't work well for me.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:05 PM
Nov 2015

It could be my big fingers not sure, but it might take me 5 minutes just to copy one paragraph.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
2. Pro tip:
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:56 PM
Nov 2015

close the browser window. There's no point in debating idiots.

"Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig"

LiberalArkie

(19,829 posts)
4. All talking with the person will do is raise your blood pressure. On DI, I simply pointed
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

out that the shooter did not try to rob the bank because it was pretty far from where he parked. I even posted a map. No one would accept even the shooters statements. They are even calling it a "False Flag Operation" to support Planed Parenthood and sacrificed one of their own to prove it. It is easier to talk race relations to a life long KKK member.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
20. These people are nuts.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:57 AM
Nov 2015

Do they not think the bank would know if it had a robbery gone bad? Would the tellers notice? Would there be any mention at all in the news? Just because someone at the bank saw something across the street and called 911, somehow validates their lies.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
22. You are attempting to use logic and reason with people who have chosen to eshew logic and reason
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

in favor of faith-based thinking.

You will never get through to a believer entrenched in their position. Ever.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
24. They are completely propagandized and brainwashed.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

And we can thank fux and rush and the demented GOP reps for it.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
27. While fox, Rush, and the GOP certainly have used it to their advantage...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 07:31 PM
Nov 2015

The source of such nonsensical thinking is much, much closer to home. It ain't just RW evangelicals that believe these absurdities and use faith-based thinking over logic and reason.
Head over to the Religion group for a plethora of examples.

LiberalArkie

(19,829 posts)
23. I think that the police went to the bank first maybe someone ran in the bank
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

after hearing shots and the bank called it in so the police went there first. Or someone outside called 911 from a cell phone about hearing shots fired and the police rolled and saw a bank and thought that was were the shots were from. Until probably the UCC police officer said it was at planned parenthood before he died.

These people jump at the first report being the most accurate, when all evidence always says the first report is the least accurate.

I guess that is why my account at DI got locked "for evaluation" for 5 days since I really don't fit in with the New "freerepublic".

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
11. Thank you, but those would not be considered credible news sites by these people.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:09 PM
Nov 2015

I truly believe these people are completely misinformed by the media the exclusively consume. I believe incontrovertible quote by pug politicians will force them to either adjust or I have the trump card over them. But it has to be believable to them.

uppityperson

(116,022 posts)
14. HuffPost has links to other places under each comment, here..
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/30/exclusive-mike-huckabee-washingtons-priorities-pathetic-funding-planned-parenthood-veterans-die-waiting-healthcare/
Planned Parenthood isn’t purely a ‘healthcare provider’ any more than a heroin dealer is a community pharmacist. Butchering babies and harvesting their organs to be swapped and sold is evil. I join with millions of fed-up and frustrated Americans who are disgusted that Washington uses our tax dollars to fund this despicable organization.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-21/rubio-women-being-pushed-into-abortions-for-fetal-tissue-profits
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Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio told an Iowa-based TV station that women are being “pushed into abortions” by organizations like Planned Parenthood that then profit from selling fetal tissue.
“Now what you've done is you've created an industry—now what you've done is you've created an incentive for people to be pushed into abortions so that those [fetal] tissues can be harvested and sold for a profit,” the Florida senator said Monday in an interview with KCCI.
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Asked if his claim about women being pressured into abortions was a stretch, Rubio held firm. “Absolutely,” he said. “If you go to one of these centers young women are provided very few options. In many places they're not told anything about, for example, adoption services that might be available to them. In essence, you come in and it's already predetermined. This is the direction—this is what this place does. It provides abortions, and we are going to channel you in that direction.”



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/11/donald-trump-is-planned-parenthood-s-favorite-republican.html
The problem that I have with Planned Parenthood is the abortion situation. It is like an abortion factory, frankly."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/va-gop-candidate-planned-parenthood-more-lethal-for-blacks-than-kkk/
"Planned Parenthood has been far more lethal to Black lives than the KKK ever was."



Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
7. "We shouldn't be sending $500 million of taxpayer money to funding...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:04 PM
Nov 2015

...an ongoing criminal enterprise." -- Ted Cruz

Could be one. I'm still looking for others. I know they're out there because we see them all the damn time. But finding them using the right keywords when names escape you is difficult.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
12. That's a game you can't win
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015

Whatever "proof" you offer to members of the Tea Party cult is automatically discredited in their eyes, since they are brainwashed into believing that everyone outside the cult is lying to them.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
15. Well, what do you know!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:36 PM
Nov 2015

I posted the huff post and media matters links in two separate posts. Both deleted by the moderator. I guess KRDO doesn't want them to know the truth. Thanks everyone for your help!!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
17. I posted a link from breitbart - they deleted that too. I'm wondering if they allow links at all.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:09 PM
Nov 2015

I finally posted one quote from the Huckster and told him to go fuck himself if he didn't want to do his own research. The quote, from breitbart was:

Planned Parenthood isn’t purely a ‘healthcare provider’ any more than a heroin dealer is a community pharmacist. Butchering babies and harvesting their organs to be swapped and sold is evil. I join with millions of fed-up and frustrated Americans who are disgusted that Washington uses our tax dollars to fund this despicable organization.”

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
18. Off the top of my head; Republicans (especially Sarah Palin) continual references to "Taking Aim"...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:30 PM
Nov 2015

and "Reloading" in the war againts liberals, including use of a gun sight logo in their messages. Which eventually led to the shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords, in Arizona.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/sarah-palin-statement-shooting_n_806224.html

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
21. I try not to look at the comment sections of news articles
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Nov 2015

It tends to attract a lot of idiots and trash.

Doubledee

(137 posts)
26. On the current home page
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:09 PM
Nov 2015

right here is a list of statements, before and after, of those responsible for the hate crime under discussion.

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