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Renew Deal

(84,612 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:35 PM Dec 2015

Should automated propaganda bots be legal to use in US elections?

Wired has a crazy story about automated propaganda bots being used on major social networks. Should they be legal to use?

It is still early days -- many of the bots deployed in 2015 will be programmed to use relatively simple heuristic techniques to imitate intelligence. But, powered by rapid advances in artificial intelligence, propaganda bots will soon run on genetic algorithms that let their ideas and messaging evolve, based on the resonance and effectiveness of previous messages. We are likely to see versions of these bots deployed on US audiences as part of the 2016 presidential election campaigns, and not only by the traditionally more tech-savvy Democrats.

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2015/06/wired-world-2015/robot-propaganda

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=138657


Poll question: Should Democrats use automated propaganda bots to support the Democratic nominee?
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Yes, the Democratic nominee should use human bots only
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No, Dems should not use bots
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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. As with other technological changes, there is no way to stop it in the short term.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:40 PM
Dec 2015

and no one who could stop it.

Therefore, I voted "other."

Renew Deal

(84,612 posts)
4. Agree
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:42 PM
Dec 2015

Even if it was outlawed for campaigns, other third parties would try to use them (PAC's, foreign entities, individuals, underground orgs).

Response to arcane1 (Reply #3)

tritsofme

(19,753 posts)
5. You ask two very different questions. Should they be legal? and Should we use it?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:08 PM
Dec 2015

They are undoubtedly legal on First Amendment grounds, but I don't have much of an opinion on whether we should use them or if they are useful.

tritsofme

(19,753 posts)
11. Is speech created on a computer protected by the First Amendment?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:38 PM
Dec 2015

Does it end because you package that speech into a program you create? I don't think so. Interesting to ponder.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Do printing presses have First Amendment rights?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:25 PM
Dec 2015

Does Microsoft Word have First Amendment rights?

Or are only handwritten pamphlets protected free speech?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. I'm gonna second the observation that you are asking two very different questions, here.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

Until you get it straightened out, Im not gonna answer the poll.

Legal? Yes, we criminalize enough silly shit as it is, plus there's that pesky 1st Amendment that some folks here cant stand.

Which is a very different question than "should they do it". It sounds annoying at best, and it could easily backfire on the candidate, much as The photos of McCain in front of crowds obviously enlarged via the photoshop clone tool, did.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. "Simple heuristic tools"- that's shorthand for the Republican Base right there, isnt it?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:24 PM
Dec 2015

Although they may want to simulate something other than intelligence.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. You go to the polls with the existing legal framework,...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:43 PM
Dec 2015

not the legal framework you wish were in place.

Failure to utilize all technology and techniques legally at your disposal is playing to lose.

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