Why are we not shown "her" picture on CNN? Tashfeen Malek?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

The female accomplice/terrorist/wife/assistant-to-workplace violence?

Surely, a passport photo is available, if nothing else?

A black shroud representing her accompanies his picture on CNN.

[darkangel218]

1. I was wondering the same

Very strange

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

2. Ticks me off if this is a sign of respect for Islam.

She doesn't deserve that respect, imo.

Meanwhile all of the dead are still in the conference room while their families grieve hoping against hope that their loved one is not in that room and is just - somehow - missing.

[darkangel218]

6. I just saw that on morning news..

I couldn't believe my eyes.. I know they have to investigate, but leaving those bodies laying around like that for almost 24 hours is beyond horible.

SMH..

[maryellen99]

18. The bodies of the dead kids in the library at Columbine were still in the building for 12 + hrs too

[darkangel218]

22. Thats outrageous.

They shouldn't be doing this. It's not like they don't know who the perps were.

[AngryAmish]

49. Left Michael Brown in the street.

[VanillaRhapsody]

7. Because they dont have one of her...

Everything is a conspiracy to some people

[darkangel218]

10. How can they "not have one on her"??

She must have had some sort of ID here..

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. She married him recently...

She has not been here long...

[darkangel218]

16. Obviously there are photos of them somewhere,

Actually one is posted below. It makes no sense that in this day and age they couldn't find one single photo.

[VanillaRhapsody]

19. Where then....

And how do we know for sure thats her?

Yeah lets rush out and post the wrong one and hurt an innocent person.

That never goes awry

[TeamPooka]

15. They're the media, not the NSA. nt

[darkangel218]

17. Look below, there is a pic posted.

And I was referring to the authorities.

[patsimp]

28. she does not deserve any respect - revulsion for the evil she is

[bklyncowgirl]

3. Yes that is very strange. She at the very least helped her husband murder innocent people.

Respect for Islamic sensibilities frankly should not apply here.

[magical thyme]

4. Updated: apparently this is his brother, from facebook. So I've removed the pic.

Last edited Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:50 PM - Edit history (1)

[darkangel218]

5. They were a good looking couple.

Too bad the brainwashing destroyed their and their victims lives.

We could be so much better without organized religion in this world. *sighs*

[EL34x4]

14. I don't think that's them

Several media outlets are running this photo which doesn't look much like the guy above me:

[img][/img]

[darkangel218]

21. Thats because in the pic posted he already had grown beard

I for one I'm pretty sure its them. I saw another photo of him earlier and it looks just like in that picture.

[cwydro]

32. Yeah, he looks much younger in the pic the media is running.

I wonder if that is them at all.

[EL34x4]

41. Unfortunately, googling "Syed Farook"

brings up legions of different people, all of whose lives are probably miserable right now.

[cwydro]

46. Yeah, that's a damn shame.

I wish they would release her passport pic and his as well, so at least this conjecture stops.

[EL34x4]

58. Complicating the issue, his brother has the same first and last name.

The siblings have different middle names. Some media outlets posted photos of the brother which were later retracted but not before being widely circulated.

I'm guessing these two probably didn't take any ID with them when they went on their rampage and last I heard, their home was booby-trapped with explosives. If this is the case, it can't be thoroughly searched until the bomb squad has declared it safe. Even then, there's a good chance the only two photos of this woman in existence are on her passport, wherever that might be and the photo used for her spousal non-immigrant green card on file with USCIS. She might not have even had a driver's license.

Given the commonality of Muslim names, as well as the many alternate spellings, digging up these pics may take time. Nobody wants to publish a photo of the wrong person and ruin that individual's reputation. Not to mention a libel case.

[trackfan]

61. Shit! That looks like me. n/t

[B2G]

20. That couple looks Indian.

And I don't think it's them. I'm sure they appreciate having their pic associated with this though.

[darkangel218]

23. They are both from Pakistan

See Nadin's thread.

[B2G]

24. I thought his wife was from Quaatar.

[darkangel218]

26. I thought the same.

Apparently they are both, at least originally, from Pakistan.

[B2G]

27. I don't know Nadin's source on this

Because she didn't provide a link.

[darkangel218]

34. Apparently CAIR says so:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1003250/female-suspect-of-california-shooting-was-pakistani-cair/

[darkangel218]

43. FBI just said at the press conference that she was from Pakistan and here on k1 visa. n/t

[B2G]

50. Yep, just heard. thanks. nt

[msrizzo]

33. I heard she was from Saudi Arabia.

Obviously a lot of conflicting info going around about this. Anyway, he is not from Pakistan. He was born in Ililnois.

[darkangel218]

35. He is of Pakistani descent.

[msrizzo]

54. True but...

...no less an American born in the USA.

[LiberalElite]

79. I read that his parents are from Pakistan but he was born here nt

[2naSalit]

25. She appears to be dressed

in Hindu-styled dress... bare arms and lots of shiny stuff. Probably not them.

[Recursion]

29. Both Pakistani and muslim Indian women wear that all the time.

Again: not remotely claiming that's a legit photo, but I could totally believe that's a Pakistani couple, particularly if they were Punjabi or Kashmiri.

[darkangel218]

30. She's from Pakistan originally apparently

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7409081

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Word

The poster should delete it...

I am not an expert but that man is definitely not Farook.

[darkangel218]

45. How do you know "definitely" that is not him?

I think it's him.( not an expert either lol)

[JI7]

65. some Pakistani and indian muslims dress that way. what stands out more is how she went from

Dressing like that to fully covered clothes. I could see a headscarf.

If that is her there should be other pics of her without the fully covered clothing.

[Reter]

36. Her head isn't covered

Doesn't seem very religious to me, and she is a Saudi.

[haele]

66. My husband's rhumetologist is a devout muslim from Pakistan. Doesn't cover her head.

She also has a stylish long bob hairstyle, just wears "modest" clothes (never saw bare arms) with an occasional long scarf she drapes around her shoulders when she wears short sleeves. She, her surgeon husband and adult daughter (also a rheumatologist) share a large practice with a pair of Iranian Christian GPs and Geriatrics specialists.
Laughs and jokes with us all the time, has no problems at all with male patients. The only reason we know she's devout is that she schedules her office hours around prayer time and is only open mornings on Friday before she and her husband head to a local mosque.
There are as many different ways to view Islam as there is Christianity, Judaism, or any other hierarchal religion. It depends on the nature of the person and their personal spirituality along with the level of domination they'll accept from a proclaimed sectarian authority.

Haele

[Rex]

37. Their 'religious views' killed them...don't hear that a lot.

Religion might not kill people, but boy howdy 'religious views' sure do!

[Renew Deal]

38. Are you sure those are the right people?

[bklyncowgirl]

40. If this is them, he's not bearded and she is not wearing a veil.

That could fit with the story that he "got religion" pretty recently.

[magical thyme]

52. she is originally from Pakistan; he grew the beard on a recent trip to S. Arabia.

he got radicalized recently. more coming...it's on CNN now.

[bklyncowgirl]

55. Interesting, that is what I was thinking--it must have been rather recent.

Listening to MSNBC now. It now seems like they had a bomb factory and arsenal in their garage.

[snooper2]

47. He is a known picture of the asshole

[MoonRiver]

48. That looks like Indian, as in from India garb.

Doubt that is them.

[magical thyme]

57. she is originally from Pakistan. They wear saris too, not just Indians.

[MoonRiver]

69. No Muslin women in Pakistan don' wear saris

They wesr the hijab. To do otherwise is considered immodest.

[JI7]

77. there ARE muslim women in pakistan who wear saris

As it is a part of their culture.

Yes it is considered too revealing by some conservative types but there are some muslim women who are not restricted and will wear it.

[MoonRiver]

83. My guess is that those women do not attend any mosque.

Also the San Bernadino shooter stated that he was looking for a bride who "wears the hijab." That picture simply cannot be her.

[JI7]

85. that specific picture may not be them. but it is a fact that muslim women DO wear saris sometimes.

of course they wont wear it in a mosque just as muslim women who wear shorts will not wear them in a mosque.

but for everyday wear and other non religious things they would wear it.

not ALL and maybe not in the same numbers as hindu and other indian women. but it is not unusual at all for them to wear saris as it is more part of the culture .

[unc70]

78. Around Lahore, very much like India, some western clothes

Very conservative dress in the northwest of Pakistan, but very different in Lahore, parts of Karachi and Islamabad.

[katsy]

51. These people are Indian. nt

[magical thyme]

59. she is originally from Pakistan; they also wear saris.

[MoonRiver]

71. Not Muslims

[snagglepuss]

60. Why would a devout Muslims be wearing Hindu clothing? Untold harm can come from posting

incorrect images. Unless there is proof this is her, I'd reconsider posting this image.

[JI7]

67. same reason bollywood crap is popular in india and pakistan

There are still many cultural similarities.

And maybe she recently became radicalized .

Remember the Paris female terrorist wore bikinis shorts sleeveless tops etc. Pretty much what most who grew up in western culture would wear.

[JI7]

72. sari is not really"hindu clothing" in the religious sense

At least in a way comparable to the muslim clothing and even nuns.

[snagglepuss]

76. True. I used the term only to draw attention that South Asians have

different styles of dress, South Saains who are Hindu wear saris, (Muslim) women do not wear saris. Maybe this is an exception however it'd be odd. My concern is that an innocent woman misidentified.

[itcfish]

62. Sorry, to Sterotype

She does not look Pakistani nor Arab.

[JI7]

68. south asians are very diverse in their looks

[Jesus Malverde]

80. The Kalash – The White Tribe of Pakistan

http://www.kuriositas.com/2012/07/the-kalash-white-tribe-of-pakistan.html

There are even blue eyed people in the region.

[grossproffit]

73. This woman is wearing a bindi, which is usually worn by Hindu's.

[magical thyme]

75. sometimes also worn by Muslims

https://www.quora.com/Do-women-in-Pakistan-wear-a-saree-and-bindi

Do women in Pakistan wear a saree and bindi ?
On watching Pakistani journalist Marvi Sirmed on YouTube for the first time, I was surprised to see that a Pakistani woman was wearing a saree as well as a bindi.

I was under the assumption that salwar kameez is the standard choice of attire in Pakistan. The presence of bindi was even more baffling.


Marvi Sirmed
social activist, secularist, journalist.
and here (link below pic) is a video where Mr. Zaid Hamid is attacking her for her adopting Hindu fashion. She is muslim btw
https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fdc8ba1f3369447282acbe3417534baa?convert_to_webp=true
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11xlsw_marvi-sirmed-zaid-hamid-on-national-security-shahid-naama-25th-august-2011_news

[complain jane]

74. I read elsewhere that this is the shooter's brother in the pic (and not Tashfeen Malik either)

But I have no idea if that's accurate.

This is where I read that: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/tashfeen-malik/

[Rod Beauvex]

81. REGGIE?

Looks like Reggie Files-Aime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Fils-Aim%C3%A9

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. They probaby dont have one...

Perhaps she was shot in the face....do you need them to show that?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

9. Passport photo? Wedding pictures available on the web?

If a fellow DU'er can find pics, why can't the media?

[VanillaRhapsody]

12. How many muslim wedding pictures online have you seen?

Have you seen her picture yet?

[darkangel218]

53. FBI just said she was here with a Pakistani passport on K1 visa.

They must have access passport photo, I think.

[itcfish]

63. I went to 2 Pakistani Muslim Weddings

Does that count?

[mythology]

70. A DUer found a picture. It may or may not be the killers

The goal should be to get it right not get it now regardless of getting it right.

[LiberalArkie]

13. It will take the media a while to wrap their head around it since they are not Arabic.

[bklyncowgirl]

31. She must have a passport photo--or do Saudi women's passports not have them?

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. Doesn't mean that CNN has her passport, though (nt)

[Raine1967]

64. Most sensical post thus far in this thread.

just because *WE* (the public) don't have an image doesn't mean there is none available.

It's going to take a while to figure this out. At this point, I am willing to let the Law enforcement do their job.

[bettyellen]

56. I think they have not verified anything. There was a LinkedIn picture that might have been her

but it's gone now. Hair full hidden by scarf, absolutely no education, location or job details. Just something about working in software, and a pic. Don't know how common the name is, but I am sure they will run something when it is verified.
Sounds like they were not super social people.

[Rex]

82. How did she get into the country without ID? Surely she had to show some kind of credentials

when she came here or boarded a plane.

[Myrina]

84. Why does it matter? She's dead, not on the run.

Its not like anyone's looking for her at this point.