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PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:40 PM Feb 2021

Why no witnesses??

It doesn't make sense. They got the vote for it.

What did they gain by not calling any witnesses?
What could they possibly have been offered to make them accept anything less?

Why did it end today?

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pfitz59

(12,249 posts)
3. Foregone conclusion. The fix was in
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:41 PM
Feb 2021

Witnesses can be called at the inevitable civil and criminal trials

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
5. I was a bit taken aback by that
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:43 PM
Feb 2021

Such a big deal the last impeachment that there were no witnesses that to not have them when they voted for it was strange. The miss is that it wasn’t the repugs to see the witnesses but the American people. Yes the vote probably would have been the same but the American people would have gotten quite a bit of info.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,798 posts)
6. This question has been rehashed all day ad nauseam, but once more, in a nutshell,
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:43 PM
Feb 2021

it's because Raskin decided they weren't necessary because he got what he wanted with the stipulated statement of the Congresswoman re: McCarthy's conversation with Trump. And it wouldn't have made a damn bit off difference in the outcome.

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
9. That explanation leaves a lot to be desired. I don't buy it.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

It could have affected the outcome in the Court of Public Opinion even if it didn't change any Republican votes.

Sadly, now this looks like a Trump victory to the people we hope never vote for him again.

His team was worried about witnesses. They were throwing the fit. Why did we let them get away so easily?

leftieNanner

(16,099 posts)
7. Several Reasons
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:44 PM
Feb 2021

My understanding is that the one witness they wanted was the Republican Congresswoman who had made notes about Trump's call with McCarthy. They were able to enter her information into the record by reading it during the proceedings with the agreement of Trump's lawyers. The other folks who might have been able to corroborate some of the other details would have been testifying cold - and that could have been dangerous.

They also realized that there was no way they would get 67 votes. Not possible. So they put out their best case during the past week and let that suffice.

Now they can get to work!

Autumn

(48,717 posts)
8. Witnesses would have made no difference. Trump could have done a video admitting his guilt.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:48 PM
Feb 2021

It would not have made a difference at all.

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