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valerief

(53,235 posts)
1. Bingo! The only thing missing is the word "radicalized."
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:46 PM
Dec 2015

Farook was radicalized by religion and Dear was not. According to our, cough-cough, fair and balanced, ahem, media.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
2. We need to distinguish between Islam and Salafism.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:48 PM
Dec 2015

Salafism is the fundamentalist form of Islam promoted by some of our allies that accepts no other sects or religions.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. I say Syed Farook/Muslim Terrorist ... Robert Dear/Christian Terrorist
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Dec 2015

Of course many here are saying Syed Farook/Disgruntled Employee ... Robert Dear/Christian Terrorist

Intellectual dishonesty and refusing to accept uncomfortable facts is not limited to the Right Wing.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Agreed.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:13 PM
Dec 2015

Both terrorists.

Both promoting radical religious beliefs through their terrorism.

The only difference is the religion.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
10. no, no, no ... there are ONLY Islamic Terrorists ... who ever heard of a Christian Terrorist?
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:30 PM
Dec 2015















napkinz

(17,199 posts)
13. Republicans can't fathom that white Christian males can be radicalized by propaganda ...
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015
Robert Dear’s deadly Planned Parenthood attack was act of terrorism, even if conservatives refuse to admit it

December 1, 2015
BY SHAUN KING

Less than 48 hours after Robert Lewis Dear shot 11 people, killing a police officer, a young mother and an Iraq war veteran at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Republican congressman Michael McCaul started making irrational and unfounded excuses for the shooter. “I don't think it would fall under quite the definition of domestic terrorism,” said McCaul, Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, during an interview on ABC News’ “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” “It's a tragedy. It’s, I think, a mental health crisis.”

-snip-

Are we actually supposed to believe that he randomly or accidentally targeted a Planned Parenthood clinic? Are we supposed to believe that it was only his poor mental health condition that caused him to choose such a place to cause murder and mayhem?

Early facts suggest it was far more nefarious and was indeed a form of domestic terrorism. According to NBC News, in his early interviews Dear referenced Planned Parenthood selling "baby parts" as part of his rationale for the attack. Just three months ago, conservative propaganda videos about Planned Parenthood went viral. They were clearly seen by Dear and impacted him deeply. Could it be that McCaul isn't quick to call Dear a terrorist because he, himself, is so publicly opposed to Planned Parenthood?

What's wild is that conservatives regularly speak about how ISIS uses propaganda videos to influence impressionable minds all over the world. They know that the purpose of those propaganda videos is to incite people to join their cause. Yet, somehow, conservatives think none of the steps that lead to terrorism abroad produce terrorists here.

read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-colo-planned-parenthood-shooting-terrorist-attack-article-1.2451292

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
16. About that word "lone"
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:43 AM
Dec 2015

Are you ever going to acknowledge his partner?

I mean, seriously, you do know he had a partner, right? Because nothing you've written indicates you know that.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. what does his partner have to do with it?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:18 PM
Dec 2015

if Robert Dear and a partner had carried out the attack on Planned Parenthood, Republicans would still refuse to call it an act of terror, they would still not blame all Christians. Republicans would call Robert Dear and his partner LONE WOLVES.

Republicans only recognize acts of terror carried out by followers of radical Islam. They refuse to acknowledge acts of terror carried out by followers of radical Christianity (because it's their own people who are carrying out those acts).

malaise

(295,083 posts)
9. They don't even recognize their own hypocrisy
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:26 PM
Dec 2015

It would be funny were it not so dangerous

ck4829

(37,593 posts)
15. Why aren't we working more with Muslims to explore their absolutely astounding cognitive properties?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:15 AM
Dec 2015

If one believes the lines given to us by the media and politicians (and others), one will believe that Muslims are a hive mind who are all responsible for the actions of each other and have immunity from mental illness.

I mean, why aren't we tapping into that?

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