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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:24 PM Dec 2015

Chipotle sales battered by widening E. coli outbreak

"A widening U.S. E. coli outbreak has slammed sales at Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc, the company said on Friday, hours after federal authorities reported that people in nine states have now contracted food poisoning.

Shares in the popular burrito chain tumbled nearly 8 percent to $518 in extended trading after Chipotle warned that sales at established restaurants could drop 8 to 11 percent for the fourth quarter from a year earlier. This would be the first such decline in company history.

Investigators said the outbreak could widen again as local agencies upload data. Chipotle said in a regulatory filing that its sales could take more hits from "further developments, including potential additional announcements from federal and state health authorities."

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported related E. coli O26 illness in three new states. Forty-seven of the 52 people sickened say they ate at Chipotle before falling ill.

..."


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-chipotle-mexican-ecoli-idUSKBN0TN21W20151205
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Chipotle sales battered by widening E. coli outbreak (Original Post) HuckleB Dec 2015 OP
Thank God it's not Olive Garden! pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #1
Don't you mean Dairy Queen and Baskin Robbins! HuckleB Dec 2015 #2
Who knows where those unlimited breadsticks have been? KamaAina Dec 2015 #4
I've only been there twice--30+ years ago pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #5
Lol, was waiting for a whine about olive garden! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #49
Always someone eager to remind us of the horrid condition of our collective taste buds. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #54
So true! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #9
Are Burger King and Dairy Queen married? Ptah Dec 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #8
And Sweet Baby Ray making BBQ sauce pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #12
Lol, the DU food snobs crack me up! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #51
Boston Chipotle Shut Down Due To Possible E. Coli Outbreak HuckleB Dec 2015 #3
I just saw that news Tab Dec 2015 #28
Chipotle is now saying that was norovirus KamaAina Dec 2015 #48
Yikes. HuckleB Dec 2015 #50
If it was a norovirus, it seems as if it would be more wide spread GusBob Dec 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #7
I've always called it Shitpotle REP Dec 2015 #10
It tastes like soap to you, doesn't it? KamaAina Dec 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #13
It appears to be a little of both. HuckleB Dec 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #15
I have the "smell" gene REP Dec 2015 #23
The ex wife used to give the dogs asparagus as a treat, as a group they would eat anything mrdmk Dec 2015 #58
It tastes like a soured, mildewed soapy dishrag smells REP Dec 2015 #16
interesting Kali Dec 2015 #36
I use ground coriander REP Dec 2015 #63
the cilantro rice is one of the the things i like best there JI7 Dec 2015 #18
It's fine, but it's what sucks people in to mediocre food. HuckleB Dec 2015 #21
i like a variety of foods. sometimes i crave taco bell JI7 Dec 2015 #25
Cilantro tastes to me like a soured, soapy dishrag smells REP Dec 2015 #24
yeah, that would suck, i'm glad i don't have that gene JI7 Dec 2015 #27
Tasty soap Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #34
Cilantro gives me a headache, seems to be in lot of food these days here in Southern California mrdmk Dec 2015 #59
Why is anyone still eating there? NightWatcher Dec 2015 #17
I don't know why anyone ever ate at the bland burrito house. HuckleB Dec 2015 #19
because no more waiting in long lines JI7 Dec 2015 #20
Why are you waiting in long lines? HuckleB Dec 2015 #29
for the cilantro rice JI7 Dec 2015 #31
Is it that hard to find where you are? HuckleB Dec 2015 #32
yes , if you want it with the chipotle guacamole and corn salsa JI7 Dec 2015 #35
What the...? Dude. Nice chain talk. HuckleB Dec 2015 #38
People like different things. Bonx Dec 2015 #47
Chicken burritos are worth the risk GummyBearz Dec 2015 #22
Go to Moe's. Burritos without squirty poops for a week NightWatcher Dec 2015 #26
I've never heard of Moe's GummyBearz Dec 2015 #44
Moe's is more expensive, gives you smaller portions, and the taste is bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #62
Most likely, because many people enjoy different things than you may. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #56
Years ago, I got a small paper bag that was Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #30
I witnessed the drop in sales. Saturday I was only customer in one that would normally be packed Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #33
I ate at Chipotle one time and didn't see the appeal. dilby Dec 2015 #37
Exactly. -eom- HuckleB Dec 2015 #42
This is what they get for banning the guns 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #39
I guess you're just trying to be funny, but I'm not really sure. HuckleB Dec 2015 #40
I wonder why they call it a "mexican grill?" demosincebirth Dec 2015 #41
the fact that both the quality and servings have decreased precipitously in the past year... Chan790 Dec 2015 #43
They offset that by raising the prices GummyBearz Dec 2015 #45
It's kind of crazy. Chan790 Dec 2015 #46
For the first time you can go to Chipoltle and not stand in line for 20 minutes liberal N proud Dec 2015 #52
Sanctimony will always bite a company back. HuckleB Dec 2015 #53
This is your cause, huh - the defense and promotion of Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #57
The defense of science and the environment is my cause. HuckleB Dec 2015 #60

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. I've only been there twice--30+ years ago
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:58 PM
Dec 2015

And both times only because I was with others who chose the restaurant. The food wasn't very good and I had no desire to visit again.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #4)

Response to Ptah (Reply #6)

Tab

(11,093 posts)
28. I just saw that news
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:14 AM
Dec 2015

Now it's getting close to home...

I wonder where our local shipper is? We're only an hour away.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
48. Chipotle is now saying that was norovirus
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:20 PM
Dec 2015

you know, the one that Carnival Cruise Lines throws in for free with your cruise package.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_29217568/chipotle-norovirus-likely-sickened-boston-students

Chipotle said it believes norovirus is to blame for sickening students at Boston College who reported "gastrointestinal symptoms" after eating at the chain.

The company says it thinks the illnesses are an isolated incident unrelated to a multi-state outbreak of E. coli cases linked to its restaurants....

Late Monday, Chipotle said it was temporarily closing a restaurant in Boston's Cleveland Circle after Boston College said 30 of its students, including members of the men's basketball team, complained of gastrointestinal symptoms after eating at the chain. The school said it was working with health authorities to investigate the cause.

People can get norovirus from an infected person, contaminated food or water, or by touching contaminated surfaces, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The virus is very contagious and can spread quickly in places such as daycare centers and cruise ships, the agency says. Each year, it causes 19 to 21 million illnesses.


Well, that makes me feel a lot better!

GusBob

(8,245 posts)
61. If it was a norovirus, it seems as if it would be more wide spread
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:04 PM
Dec 2015

than just people who ate at the restaurant, it would be out in the community and school due to it being contagious


not an expert just saying it seems that way to me

Response to HuckleB (Original post)

REP

(21,691 posts)
10. I've always called it Shitpotle
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:17 PM
Dec 2015

But that's because I hate cilantro. Looks like I was more right than I realized.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. It tastes like soap to you, doesn't it?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:19 PM
Dec 2015

That's a genetic thing that affects about 20 percent of people, sort of like the gene Republican Stepdad has that makes his pee stink after he eats asparagus.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #11)

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
14. It appears to be a little of both.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:28 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-asparagus-makes-your-urine-smell-49961252/?no-ist


"...

On the whole, the evidence is mixed. Initially, a pair of studies conducted in the 1980s with participants from France and Israel found that everyone produced the characteristic scent, and that a minority of people were simply unable to smell it. People with the ability to detect the scent, though, were able to smell it even in the urine of those who couldn’t smell it, indicating that the differences were rooted in perception, not production.

More recent studies, though, suggest the issue is a bit more complicated. The most recent study, from 2010, found that differences existed between individuals in both the production and detection of the scent.

Overall, scientists now conclude that most of the difference is in perception—that is, if your urine doesn’t seem to smell any differently after you eat asparagus, it’s likely that you simply can’t perceive the sulfurous compounds’ foul odor, but there’s a small chance it’s because your body digests asparagus in a way that reduces the concentration of these chemicals in your urine.

It’s still unclear why some people don’t produce the smell, but we do seem to have a clear explanation of why some people don’t perceive it. In 2010, the genetic sequencing company 23andMe conducted a study in which they asked nearly 10,000 customers if they noticed any scent in their urine after eating asparagus, and looked for genetic similarities among those who couldn’t. This peculiarity—which you might consider useful if you eat asparagus frequently—appears to stem from a single genetic mutation, a switched base-pair among a cluster of 50 different genes that code for olfactory receptors.

..."

Response to HuckleB (Reply #14)

REP

(21,691 posts)
23. I have the "smell" gene
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:04 AM
Dec 2015

However, the asparagus pee smell - and skunk musk - is not noxious to me. I can smell asparagus pee quite well; mine and others; I have an exceptionally keen sense of smell. I just don't find it that offensive.

I can also nearly almost accurately guess which organism has caused my most recent kidney infection by scent.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
58. The ex wife used to give the dogs asparagus as a treat, as a group they would eat anything
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:48 PM
Dec 2015

Later, on their respective walks, I would wonder, 'what is that smell!' With a eyeball on dog number one I think, oh yeah, we all had asparagus for dinner. All three of them, it would be that same smell. Great...


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REP

(21,691 posts)
16. It tastes like a soured, mildewed soapy dishrag smells
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:58 AM
Dec 2015

Not just soap, but a soured, mildewy taste. Oddly enough, the seeds taste fine but the green parts:

Kali

(56,822 posts)
36. interesting
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:30 AM
Dec 2015

(we meet for the second time today woo ooo ooo)

I love cilantro but coriander seeds kind of gag me. they are ok mixed with other spice, like for curry but I don't care to just chew on them.

I have the sensitive smell thing too, and skunk is fine ( ) as long as it is further than 20 feet away. when I can feel the oil in my mouth it is too damn close (and there is one out on the back porch as I write this )

REP

(21,691 posts)
63. I use ground coriander
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:30 PM
Dec 2015

Whole seeds would a bit too much.

We have a family of skunks under our deck. In the spring, there's always a new crop of kittens, and they have poor scent control, and go off randomly - right next to us (we pet the "wild" skunks - they're pretty friendly). Doesn't bother me. We put our coffee grounds on the roses, and apparently the skunks eat them because they all have very coffee-accented musk.

The raccoons DGAF about skunk musk, either; I've seen a skunk unload right in the face of a raccoon who wouldn't leave the skunk's food alone. Raccoon just kept on eating. When an adult is spraying for real, though, you can smell it all through the house.

JI7

(93,563 posts)
25. i like a variety of foods. sometimes i crave taco bell
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:07 AM
Dec 2015

and the best mexican food from somewhere else wont satisfy the craving for the crappy taco bell burrito or taco or whatever.

REP

(21,691 posts)
24. Cilantro tastes to me like a soured, soapy dishrag smells
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:06 AM
Dec 2015

So you can see why I'm not a fan.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
59. Cilantro gives me a headache, seems to be in lot of food these days here in Southern California
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:53 PM
Dec 2015

Been to Chipotle once, was not that great. The food prep was one of the reasons, felt unsanitary to me...


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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
19. I don't know why anyone ever ate at the bland burrito house.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:01 AM
Dec 2015

Oh, wait. I think I just explained it.

Shoot.

Please don't.

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
62. Moe's is more expensive, gives you smaller portions, and the taste is
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:14 PM
Dec 2015

inferior to Chipotle. A Moe's franchise opened maybe 2-3 months ago in my area, and I tried them once just after they opened. The Chipotle E. Coli issues might attract enough scared customers to them for a little while, but I'll continue to stick with Chipotle until I see evidence that things aren't changing for the better.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. Most likely, because many people enjoy different things than you may.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:42 PM
Dec 2015

Most likely, because many people enjoy different things than you may.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
30. Years ago, I got a small paper bag that was
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:17 AM
Dec 2015

esstionally, a coupon (it was printed on a paper bag) for a free burrito from Chipolte. When I arrived back home, I went to a Chipole location, got a burrito, and presented the coupon/bag at checkout. The mabager was called. After a short time after they were dicussing the matter, I said thanks and left. It wad ok, but is more food than I usually want.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
33. I witnessed the drop in sales. Saturday I was only customer in one that would normally be packed
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:26 AM
Dec 2015

Busy los angeles corner. No customers but me.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
37. I ate at Chipotle one time and didn't see the appeal.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:38 AM
Dec 2015

Was just blah and with so many better place to eat downtown by my work I never went back. Hopefully they can figure this out, their Oregon and Washington stores were shut down for a while and they never found the culprit.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
39. This is what they get for banning the guns
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:44 AM
Dec 2015

If a good cook had a gun, he or she "could of" shot these little E. Coli bastards before they started spreading.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
43. the fact that both the quality and servings have decreased precipitously in the past year...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

hasn't helped.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
46. It's kind of crazy.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:05 PM
Dec 2015

The price of my veggie burrito bowl has increased by $1, it's about 2/3 the size it used to be and the quality has gone from best in industry to about what I'd expect from McDonald's if they jumped into the "mission-style burrito" market.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
52. For the first time you can go to Chipoltle and not stand in line for 20 minutes
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:28 PM
Dec 2015

Too bad, because the flavor was worth the wait.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
53. Sanctimony will always bite a company back.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015

Chipotle has chosen baseless demonization of safe foods as a marketing strategy. It's not ethical, and it shouldn't surprise anyone that it's customers leave, ASAP. When your customers were driven there based on fear mongering, they're going to leave at first sign of a scare.

Nevermind that the switch to non-GMO ingredients is actually bad for the environment.
http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2015/05/what-does-chipotles-switch-to-non-gmo-ingredients-mean-for-pesticide-use/

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
60. The defense of science and the environment is my cause.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:26 PM
Dec 2015

Do you support anti-science propaganda that hurts the environment?

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