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applegrove

(132,205 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:20 PM Dec 2015

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tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. Here's how it's gonna go down (if Hillary is the nominee)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:45 PM
Dec 2015

1. Trump relentlessly portrays Obama as an incompetent wimp who is afraid to stand up for America.

2. He links Hillary to Obama by virtue of our screwups in Libya, Syria and elsewhere, implying that she too is a wimp.

3. Hillary eagerly takes the bait and strongly distances herself from Obama's foreign policies, telling anybody that will listen that she will pursue a much more manly course of action when it comes to dealing with terrorism, Arabs, Muslims, Iran, Putin, etc. etc.

4. The Democratic base, horrified at Hillary's belligerent tone, neocon sounding speeches and betrayal of a popular Democratic president, stays home in droves on election day.

5. Trump's nutty supporters show up by the millions and he is easily elected president.

At this point the Democratic party will have a decision to make. It can either continue its decline into irrelevance or it can wake up, purge itself of the Clintons, Turd Way, Loserman Schultz, corporate stooges who have nearly destroyed it and become the true people's party again.

applegrove

(132,205 posts)
4. What about all those establishment republicans who are more afraid of Trump than Hillary? What about
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:01 PM
Dec 2015

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Bernie supporters who have been encouraged not to vote for Hillary in any case by GOP trolls...will they not find themselves more afraid of Trump? I think so. It will be a blowout. Many are predicting that. The GOP is already telling the senators running in 2016 not to tie themselves to Trump in any way....starting right now. That is how scared they are of Trump running.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. Both parties have lost control of the rank and file to some degree
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:16 PM
Dec 2015

But I think it is much worse in the republican party because they have spent decades creating the fanatical fringe base that now threatens to devour the entire party and its going to bite them in the ass this time. The GOP power structure is scared of Trump because they created the media/propaganda infrastructure that led to the rise of Trump style candidates. And now they are running out of time to defuse the bomb they prepared.

Hillary will not be able to mobilize younger voters, and she will lose the African American vote if she strongly distances herself from Obama. She has no personal magnetism, no charisma, and she comes off unfriendly and aloof. Trump will kick her ass.

applegrove

(132,205 posts)
6. All of Trump's support is the uneducated. There are not enough of them in the Republican Party to
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
2. There is something so twisted, dark and dystopian
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:54 PM
Dec 2015

about this. Trump is like the poster boy representing the most insidious elements of the world. Fascism, genocide, poverty and suffering.

I can barely allow myself to recognize he, or anyone like him, is a viable, serious contender for president. That he is being taken seriously.

This should be dark satire, not reality.

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pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. "a particular habit of saying “you” and “we” as he inveighs against a dangerous “them”. US vs THEM.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:11 AM
Dec 2015

A tried-and-true conservative tactic particularly when directed against foreigners - "usually outsiders like illegal immigrants (“they’re pouring in”), Syrian migrants (“young, strong men”) and Mexicans".

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
8. Texas Secretary of State Questions Citizenship of 95,000 Registered Voters
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 07:15 PM
Jan 2019

The Texas GOP is trying to justify some voter purges https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-secretary-of-state-questions-citizenship-of-95000-registered-voters/ar-BBSKH7x?fbclid=IwAR2WBZ_e7FstfaVYxnjTybriiy2CMV87aj8uf1rmVsJ_ovSvQdFfurdFCrA

But Democrats and voting rights advocates were skeptical of the state’s claims. More than 8.3 million people voted in the Texas governor’s race last year, which means that even if all 58,000 people who voted were, in fact, found to be noncitizens and voted in 2018 — a claim that no state official has made — they would have amounted to only 0.69 percent of all votes that were cast.

“Because we have consistently seen Texas politicians conjure the specter of voter fraud as pretext to suppress legitimate votes, we are naturally skeptical,” Representative Rafael Anchia, a Democrat in the Texas House of Representatives, said in a statement.

Kristen Clarke, the president of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, also cautioned that the state’s findings, and the speed with which the attorney general raised the specter of prosecution, could foreshadow an attempt at voter suppression.

“Texas has a rich history of undertaking action to make it harder for people to vote,” she said. “Whenever you’re invoking the threat of criminal prosecution, the chilling effect becomes almost unavoidable.”

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
9. From the ACLU
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:24 PM
Jan 2019

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
10. Texas back tracks
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:13 PM
Jan 2019

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
11. From the new Harris county judge
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:09 AM
Feb 2019
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