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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, they did it: Texas Republicans Approve Resolution To Secede From U.S.
http://winningdemocrats.com/please-make-this-happen-texas-republicans-approve-resolution-to-secede-from-u-s/Texas Republicans just voted to allow their ignorance to go public by shipping a bill through committee that would allow the state to secede from the Union. The non-binding resolution has an if that would have to be defined and satisfied, but nonetheless it is a bill that outwardly calls for the reinstatement of the Republic of Texas as a sovereign nation.
The resolution will now go to the general assembly, the next step towards America becoming free from the idiocy of our biggest pain in the ass. The language is sketchy at best:
If the federal government continues to disregard the Constitution and the sovereignty of the State of Texas, the State of Texas and its people should reassert its prior status as an independent nation.
That leaves quite a few questions unanswered. Can the normal people who want a life not full of guns, abuse of womens rights and paranoia that the feds are coming leave, or will there be a yooooge wall to keep them in. Can we have the immigrants youll be expelling or will they be required to go around your big shitty country to find real freedom? Will you grant visas to NFL teams or will the Cowboys just play 16 games a year against the Texans?
You can read all about why Texas Republicans want to leave the US and form a perfect republic where reality doesnt matter, the economy runs on trucks delivering things from Texas to Texas and Jesus will always have a seat at the head of the table on the official Tea Party page, a gathering place for the Stupid Part of America.
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More at above link.
RandySF
(84,320 posts)Texas voters don't care how crazy the Republicans get.
TexasTowelie
(127,355 posts)TexasTowelie
(127,355 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Fuck Tex-ass!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)By the same token, it would be fun to publish a conditional if/then study from the Pentagon on how we would militarily attack Texas and immediately kill its leadership should they ever decide to do something so foolish.
Skittles
(171,717 posts)no INDEED
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)MasonDreams
(777 posts)Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama along with you?
MasonDreams
(777 posts)The klan just ran me out of Bama again, and ijust can't help thinking. Enough with the repubs hate & violence. Just a fantasy escape but wouldn't Congress. be a dream w/o 8 R Senators and many R Reps!
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Actually, I agree with you.
I'm just too old to pack up and leave Louisiana.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Please, let them go. Good riddance.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)2naSalit
(102,804 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I heard somewhere, right or wrong, when Texas entered the union they were told they could leave but would need break up into 5 'states'?
TexasProgresive
(12,730 posts)Each state would belong to the union with 2 senators each. Be careful what you wish for.
LiberalArkie
(19,807 posts)and Bushwacker. Is that about right?
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)There's only one Alamo.
TexasProgresive
(12,730 posts)Will never happen because which state gets the Alamo and the name Texas.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)in James Michener's Texas
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Fuck these lunatics.
the_sly_pig
(752 posts).. and who cares.
NBachers
(19,439 posts)DFW
(60,186 posts)Unless you're from California, how many in your state voted that way?
Because of a gerrymandered (thanks Tom DeLay, but also thanks US Supreme Court, none of whom are even from the South) state, Republicans dominate the legislature, but wanting to get rid of all of us for this seems a little extreme. Joe McCarthy was from Wisconsin. Better get rid of them, too. Santorum and Alito from Pennsylvania. They go, too. Chief "Justice" John Roberts is from New York. Can't have people like that in the union. Bye Bye Empire State. Mitch McTurtle is from Kentucky--out they go, too, of course, and take your coal with you.
After all, if we're getting rid of the State that produces Ann and Cecile Richards, Molly Ivins, Bill Moyers and Stevie Ray Vaughan, we had better get rid of states that produced some bad apples as well.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)
they have no republicans within their precious borders. California and New York and all the other elite blue states have nary a RW asshole in sight but instead they are a border to border enclave of fresh minty smelling democratic assholes.
DFW
(60,186 posts)This is not a new phenomenon. Over in what used to be East Germany, the regime used to say they didn't need to worry about Nazis, because in their socialist paradise, there WERE no more Nazis. Well, once the regime collapsed, where did the ugly specter of neo-nazism show up strongest? In the East, of course, where they refused to admit there was a problem, they allowed it to metastasize. In Texas, yes we currently have a majority of Republicans, and in NY, IL, CA they have majorities of Democrats. But in Texas, we still have over 3 million people that vote Democratic and on those other states, they have over 3 million that vote Republican. We see and admit our problem. Do they even know they have one?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)million Democratic votes and that vital element of Democratic victory.....
The part you seem to be missing is that the OP is about Texas stating intention to leave the Union, not about others asking them to. This is not the idea of people from the States you hate so much but the idea of people from Texas. Can't you just accept that? 'We're' not getting rid of it, they are threatening to leave. You are, actually. Texas is. Deal.
DFW
(60,186 posts)A few idiots in the State legislature did it, not all the rest of us. As for the States I "hate so much," all four of my grandparents lived much to most to all of their lives in the State of New York, and both of my parents were born there and grew up there. I don't hate New York or any of the other states. Sanctimonious people who think I do obviously have their own emotional issues to deal with. That still doesn't mean Texas is some monolith of backwater morons, any more than Illinois is, despite their Senator Kirk and current governor (as long as we're on the subject of that vital element of Democratic victory). Yes, we also have an ignorant buffoon for a governor. So? Maine doesn't?
As for threatening to leave, as far as that concerns me, you're too late. I now live with my wife, one of the friendlier natives, in the Rheinland area of Germany.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Do you think you could ask the DFW airport authority to do something about the signage for driving into and out of the airport? I was visiting friends who have lived in Arlington for about three years and even THEY kept getting lost trying to figure it out.
Thanks.
DFW
(60,186 posts)I almost always get taken to and from DFW by friends, and when not, by public transportation (always faster if I would learn Ashanti or Amharic, but I haven't yet). I'm flying there tomorrow for a brief visit to the USA. I'm being picked up at DFW, and will be leaving from Love Field (Virgin America flies out of there) for Washington (White House on Friday!), and then back to Germany Saturday.
I WILL say, once inside the airport it is very, very well designed. Arrivals and departures in the same place, same level. You get off your flight and walk right through the doors to baggage claim and out,
Of course, I have never arrived and had to go through customs there.
Have a great visit and good luck finding that expressway exit SOUTH.. We kept ending up in a parking lot and asking the attendant. She just laughed and said she answered the same question all day.
All the need is a big home-made sign, no words, with just a crayon arrow pointing -- THAT WAY..
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LiberalArkie
(19,807 posts)DFW
(60,186 posts)I've met both of them.
LiberalArkie
(19,807 posts)DFW
(60,186 posts)The two I know are from Washington State and New Jersey.
Sam_Fields
(305 posts)The ballot measure will be dead in the water.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Sam_Fields
(305 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)and before long they would just be another 3rd world country looking for help
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)into the national kitty, not nearly as much as many other red states. But I agree anyway. Texas already funnels most money up to a few, and without the constraints of the federal government on mistreating and exploiting citizens, we'd soon enough be seeing plenty of "Texas illegal" migrants to the U.S.
There should be more discussion of the similarity between the socioeconomic ideologies crippling most places referred to as "third world" and those of today's conservatives and libertarians. Maybe it'd open a few eyes.
raccoon
(32,390 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)
that it isn't happening.
Well, it would be interesting if it did happen.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)dawg
(10,777 posts)will have an insufferably bad outcome. That is just who they are. Not just in Texas.
no_hypocrisy
(54,908 posts)Texans would have to apply for Visas. Texans would be illegal aliens if they overstayed their Visas. Texans would not be able to bring firearms into the Union or buy firearms in the Union.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)What to do with the immigrants flooding into Oklahoma, Arkansas. NM, and the South.
Quotas, no firearms, no choice of location, etc.
Thst ought to cool their jets a bit.
And of course it does add A Lot of miles to Trump's Wall, but he's rich. Another good feature is that drugs from Mexico would be harder to get into the other 49 states.
Oh yeah and someone mentioned no SS or Medicaid.
Y'all go right ahead. Don't let the new border hit you in the proverbial rear. Lol
Vinca
(53,994 posts)I'm thinking a bottle of aspirin and a box of bandages since they won't have access to healthcare anymore. Maybe a few cans of cat food for the seniors without Social Security.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)You should delete this OP. You are spreading falsehoods.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I'm no expert on Texas secession, but you appear to be confusing two different secessionist ventures.
The OP linked to an article stating that a committee of the Texas legislature had approved a bill, which will therefore proceed to go before the General Assembly. Your link is to an article about a proposal by the Republican Party to put a nonbinding referendum on the ballot on March 1, the date of the Presidential primary, for vote by the electorate.
According to the cited sources, the latter proposal was voted down but the former was approved.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,328 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,681 posts)... from Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, and rebury them in the United States?
And many other little logistical nightmares.
Orrex
(67,112 posts)At least, not until Texas turns blue.
Giving up Texas' electoral votes for the sake of secession would be a death blow for the GOP's presidential ambitions for the next few decades. Seeing those votes go Democrat will achieve the same thing and will be so much sweeter.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)And Kansas.
struggle4progress
(126,158 posts)Texas GOP Votes Down Secession Proposal
by Patrick Svitek Dec. 5, 2015
... In a voice vote Saturday afternoon, the State Republican Executive Committee rejected a measure that would have put the issue on the March 1 primary ballot. The ballot language would have been non-binding, amounting to a formal survey of voters on whether they would like to see Texas declare its independence from the United States.
While the proposal's defeat was expected, the measure had sparked some heated debate on the 60-member executive committee, the governing body of the Republican Party of Texas ...
Tanya Robertson, the SREC member who introduced the proposal, argued at the executive committee meeting in Austin that the measure would have been "harmless," allowing voters to register an "opinion only." She also suggested the ballot language would have helped "get out the vote" among some Texas Republicans who have been sitting out recent elections ...
The pro-secession measure was sent to the full body on Friday after approval by its Resolutions Committee. The ballot language before the executive committee Saturday afternoon read, "If the Federal Government continues to disregard the Constitution and the sovereignty of the State of Texas, the State of Texas should reassert its prior status as an independent nation" ...
http://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/05/texas-gop-votes-down-controversial-secession-propo/
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)YES!
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onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Natural disaster of fire happens when THEY ALONE can't handle it. Just go the fuck away already.
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,134 posts)greymattermom
(5,807 posts)that is considering seceding. No new contracts, no road repair or construction, no dam repairs, just nothing new. That seems fair to me.
lordsummerisle
(4,653 posts)thanks for giving us Ted Cruz, who is not only a dominating force in the Senate but in the House as well I've been told (the Freedom Caucus). Thanks to you this nutcase could easily be the next president or VP under a Trump/Cruz ticket...