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(1,142 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:04 AM Dec 2015

Well, they did it: Texas Republicans Approve Resolution To Secede From U.S.

http://winningdemocrats.com/please-make-this-happen-texas-republicans-approve-resolution-to-secede-from-u-s/

Texas Republicans just voted to allow their ignorance to go public by shipping a bill through committee that would allow the state to secede from the Union. The non-binding resolution has an “if” that would have to be defined and satisfied, but nonetheless it is a bill that outwardly calls for the reinstatement of the Republic of Texas as a sovereign nation.

The resolution will now go to the general assembly, the next step towards America becoming free from the idiocy of our biggest pain in the ass. The language is sketchy at best:

If the federal government continues to disregard the Constitution and the sovereignty of the State of Texas, the State of Texas and its people should reassert its prior status as an independent nation.

That leaves quite a few questions unanswered. Can the normal people who want a life not full of guns, abuse of women’s rights and paranoia that the feds are coming leave, or will there be a “yooooge” wall to keep them in. Can we have the immigrants you’ll be expelling or will they be required to go around your big shitty country to find real freedom? Will you grant visas to NFL teams or will the Cowboys just play 16 games a year against the Texans?

You can read all about why Texas Republicans want to leave the US and form a perfect republic where reality doesn’t matter, the economy runs on trucks delivering things from Texas to Texas and Jesus will always have a seat at the head of the table on the official Tea Party page, a gathering place for the Stupid Part of America.

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More at above link.
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Well, they did it: Texas Republicans Approve Resolution To Secede From U.S. (Original Post) Photographer Dec 2015 OP
But this is the scary part, RandySF Dec 2015 #1
See post #2. TexasTowelie Dec 2015 #3
Texas GOP votes not to put secession question on primary ballot TexasTowelie Dec 2015 #2
Bye! Don't fucking come back and anyone who is Blue should leave immediately. Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #4
It's a conditional "if/then" thing. If the fed govt disregards Constitution, we can bail. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #5
Texas never misses an opportunity to embarrass itself Skittles Dec 2015 #6
Texas: Now officially the least patriotic state in the nation NobodyHere Dec 2015 #7
OK Texas, any chance we could talk you into taking MasonDreams Dec 2015 #8
OUCH! NOLALady Dec 2015 #60
I regret saying that but I just lost patience. MasonDreams Dec 2015 #63
I understand. NOLALady Dec 2015 #68
Texas GOP--not the sharpest tools in the shed pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #9
LMAO! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #20
LOL! smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #44
That a rap group? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #50
Thanks for bringing that back!!! 2naSalit Dec 2015 #61
I think I heard somewhere .... left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #10
It's in the charter that Texas could divide into 5 states. TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #17
The state of Dallas-Ft Worth and the state of Austin, Houston, No-mans land LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #30
Won't happen. SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #41
That was the joke in a Texas fact book TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #42
I remembered reading that SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #43
It could be like the "Cat in the Hat's" Thing 1 & Thing 2, but Texas 1 - Texas 5. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #56
It's bullshit that Texans are taught and believe jberryhill Dec 2015 #59
Leave. Now. That is all. hifiguy Dec 2015 #11
See ya... the_sly_pig Dec 2015 #12
Why wait for secession? Just evict 'em. NBachers Dec 2015 #13
Three million plus of us voted Democratic in the last presidential election DFW Dec 2015 #14
Now now, don't get on the way of the hate fest. These holier than thou democrats think CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #18
Prejudice trumps reality not only in Republican communities, it seems DFW Dec 2015 #23
In my State the Democrats won, which is what we aim for. Illinois and New York and CA all had three Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #19
Not quite DFW Dec 2015 #22
I was just in Dallas for the weekend. pangaia Dec 2015 #58
I can't figure it out either!! DFW Dec 2015 #64
Great reply. pangaia Dec 2015 #67
But that was back when the Republicans had sane people. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #32
Actually, they still do DFW Dec 2015 #36
That may be more sane Republicans than we have in Arkansas though. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #38
That could well be DFW Dec 2015 #40
OK. Texas can secede from the Union. But every senior receiving SS and Medicare will lose it. Sam_Fields Dec 2015 #15
You still get SS if you live out of the US. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #54
Not if we change the law they don't Sam_Fields Dec 2015 #65
Yes, you do that. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #66
They can name it Jesusland Marrah_G Dec 2015 #16
Texas gets only back somewhat less than 1.5 x what it pays Hortensis Dec 2015 #39
This should be interesting. Sorry, Towelie, I see raccoon Dec 2015 #21
Just replace them with Puerto Rico so we don't have to get new flags corkhead Dec 2015 #24
LOL! RiverLover Dec 2015 #26
Any such proposition, in any U.S. state, that polls only Republican voters .... dawg Dec 2015 #25
Will Donald Trump make Texas pay for the wall it has to build to protect The Union? no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 #27
one can hope. perhaps we can figure out libdem4life Dec 2015 #28
Where do I send a farewell gift? Vinca Dec 2015 #29
THIS IS FALSE, THEY DID NOT PUT THE SECESSION MEASURE ON THE BALLOT!!! SEE POST #2 MohRokTah Dec 2015 #31
I think you're wrong. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #45
Considering that the Lege won't meet again until 2017, I doubt any committee did anything. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #47
Well, that would disqualify Ted Cruz, right? Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #33
Who will pay to dig up 150,000 veterans ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #34
The national GOP would never allow it Orrex Dec 2015 #35
Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, . . . Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #37
Tell them to take Florida with them. lindysalsagal Dec 2015 #46
Texas GOP Votes Down Secession Proposal struggle4progress Dec 2015 #48
Well, if the legislature secedes, I'm in favor of that! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #49
Let's cut to the chase, this is what the resolution actually says randys1 Dec 2015 #51
You really want to go? Well in that case... MrWendel Dec 2015 #52
Send them a bill to reimburse tax dollars, wish them luck when the next onecaliberal Dec 2015 #53
Good! Bye, bye, and take the Bush family with you! Unrepentant Fenian Dec 2015 #55
How about putting a hold on all new federal spending in any state greymattermom Dec 2015 #57
Hey Texas lordsummerisle Dec 2015 #62
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
5. It's a conditional "if/then" thing. If the fed govt disregards Constitution, we can bail.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:34 AM
Dec 2015

By the same token, it would be fun to publish a conditional if/then study from the Pentagon on how we would militarily attack Texas and immediately kill its leadership should they ever decide to do something so foolish.

MasonDreams

(777 posts)
8. OK Texas, any chance we could talk you into taking
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:21 AM
Dec 2015

Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama along with you?

MasonDreams

(777 posts)
63. I regret saying that but I just lost patience.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:52 PM
Dec 2015

The klan just ran me out of Bama again, and ijust can't help thinking. Enough with the repubs hate & violence. Just a fantasy escape but wouldn't Congress. be a dream w/o 8 R Senators and many R Reps!

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
68. I understand.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:12 PM
Dec 2015

Actually, I agree with you.

I'm just too old to pack up and leave Louisiana.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. I think I heard somewhere ....
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:44 AM
Dec 2015

I heard somewhere, right or wrong, when Texas entered the union they were told they could leave but would need break up into 5 'states'?

TexasProgresive

(12,730 posts)
17. It's in the charter that Texas could divide into 5 states.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:54 AM
Dec 2015

Each state would belong to the union with 2 senators each. Be careful what you wish for.

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
30. The state of Dallas-Ft Worth and the state of Austin, Houston, No-mans land
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:09 AM
Dec 2015

and Bushwacker. Is that about right?

TexasProgresive

(12,730 posts)
42. That was the joke in a Texas fact book
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:53 PM
Dec 2015

Will never happen because which state gets the Alamo and the name Texas.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
14. Three million plus of us voted Democratic in the last presidential election
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:23 AM
Dec 2015

Unless you're from California, how many in your state voted that way?

Because of a gerrymandered (thanks Tom DeLay, but also thanks US Supreme Court, none of whom are even from the South) state, Republicans dominate the legislature, but wanting to get rid of all of us for this seems a little extreme. Joe McCarthy was from Wisconsin. Better get rid of them, too. Santorum and Alito from Pennsylvania. They go, too. Chief "Justice" John Roberts is from New York. Can't have people like that in the union. Bye Bye Empire State. Mitch McTurtle is from Kentucky--out they go, too, of course, and take your coal with you.

After all, if we're getting rid of the State that produces Ann and Cecile Richards, Molly Ivins, Bill Moyers and Stevie Ray Vaughan, we had better get rid of states that produced some bad apples as well.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
18. Now now, don't get on the way of the hate fest. These holier than thou democrats think
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:05 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)

they have no republicans within their precious borders. California and New York and all the other elite blue states have nary a RW asshole in sight but instead they are a border to border enclave of fresh minty smelling democratic assholes.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
23. Prejudice trumps reality not only in Republican communities, it seems
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:46 AM
Dec 2015

This is not a new phenomenon. Over in what used to be East Germany, the regime used to say they didn't need to worry about Nazis, because in their socialist paradise, there WERE no more Nazis. Well, once the regime collapsed, where did the ugly specter of neo-nazism show up strongest? In the East, of course, where they refused to admit there was a problem, they allowed it to metastasize. In Texas, yes we currently have a majority of Republicans, and in NY, IL, CA they have majorities of Democrats. But in Texas, we still have over 3 million people that vote Democratic and on those other states, they have over 3 million that vote Republican. We see and admit our problem. Do they even know they have one?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. In my State the Democrats won, which is what we aim for. Illinois and New York and CA all had three
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:16 AM
Dec 2015

million Democratic votes and that vital element of Democratic victory.....

The part you seem to be missing is that the OP is about Texas stating intention to leave the Union, not about others asking them to. This is not the idea of people from the States you hate so much but the idea of people from Texas. Can't you just accept that? 'We're' not getting rid of it, they are threatening to leave. You are, actually. Texas is. Deal.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
22. Not quite
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:38 AM
Dec 2015

A few idiots in the State legislature did it, not all the rest of us. As for the States I "hate so much," all four of my grandparents lived much to most to all of their lives in the State of New York, and both of my parents were born there and grew up there. I don't hate New York or any of the other states. Sanctimonious people who think I do obviously have their own emotional issues to deal with. That still doesn't mean Texas is some monolith of backwater morons, any more than Illinois is, despite their Senator Kirk and current governor (as long as we're on the subject of that vital element of Democratic victory). Yes, we also have an ignorant buffoon for a governor. So? Maine doesn't?

As for threatening to leave, as far as that concerns me, you're too late. I now live with my wife, one of the friendlier natives, in the Rheinland area of Germany.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
58. I was just in Dallas for the weekend.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:53 PM
Dec 2015

Do you think you could ask the DFW airport authority to do something about the signage for driving into and out of the airport? I was visiting friends who have lived in Arlington for about three years and even THEY kept getting lost trying to figure it out.

Thanks.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
64. I can't figure it out either!!
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:09 AM
Dec 2015

I almost always get taken to and from DFW by friends, and when not, by public transportation (always faster if I would learn Ashanti or Amharic, but I haven't yet). I'm flying there tomorrow for a brief visit to the USA. I'm being picked up at DFW, and will be leaving from Love Field (Virgin America flies out of there) for Washington (White House on Friday!), and then back to Germany Saturday.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
67. Great reply.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015


I WILL say, once inside the airport it is very, very well designed. Arrivals and departures in the same place, same level. You get off your flight and walk right through the doors to baggage claim and out,

Of course, I have never arrived and had to go through customs there.

Have a great visit and good luck finding that expressway exit SOUTH.. We kept ending up in a parking lot and asking the attendant. She just laughed and said she answered the same question all day.

All the need is a big home-made sign, no words, with just a crayon arrow pointing -- THAT WAY..

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Sam_Fields

(305 posts)
15. OK. Texas can secede from the Union. But every senior receiving SS and Medicare will lose it.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:42 AM
Dec 2015

The ballot measure will be dead in the water.



Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
16. They can name it Jesusland
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:52 AM
Dec 2015

and before long they would just be another 3rd world country looking for help

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Texas gets only back somewhat less than 1.5 x what it pays
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:59 PM
Dec 2015

into the national kitty, not nearly as much as many other red states. But I agree anyway. Texas already funnels most money up to a few, and without the constraints of the federal government on mistreating and exploiting citizens, we'd soon enough be seeing plenty of "Texas illegal" migrants to the U.S.

There should be more discussion of the similarity between the socioeconomic ideologies crippling most places referred to as "third world" and those of today's conservatives and libertarians. Maybe it'd open a few eyes.

raccoon

(32,390 posts)
21. This should be interesting. Sorry, Towelie, I see
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:21 AM
Dec 2015

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that it isn't happening.

Well, it would be interesting if it did happen.

dawg

(10,777 posts)
25. Any such proposition, in any U.S. state, that polls only Republican voters ....
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:58 AM
Dec 2015

will have an insufferably bad outcome. That is just who they are. Not just in Texas.

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
27. Will Donald Trump make Texas pay for the wall it has to build to protect The Union?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:16 AM
Dec 2015

Texans would have to apply for Visas. Texans would be illegal aliens if they overstayed their Visas. Texans would not be able to bring firearms into the Union or buy firearms in the Union.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. one can hope. perhaps we can figure out
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:41 AM
Dec 2015

What to do with the immigrants flooding into Oklahoma, Arkansas. NM, and the South.

Quotas, no firearms, no choice of location, etc.

Thst ought to cool their jets a bit.

And of course it does add A Lot of miles to Trump's Wall, but he's rich. Another good feature is that drugs from Mexico would be harder to get into the other 49 states.

Oh yeah and someone mentioned no SS or Medicaid.

Y'all go right ahead. Don't let the new border hit you in the proverbial rear. Lol

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
29. Where do I send a farewell gift?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

I'm thinking a bottle of aspirin and a box of bandages since they won't have access to healthcare anymore. Maybe a few cans of cat food for the seniors without Social Security.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
31. THIS IS FALSE, THEY DID NOT PUT THE SECESSION MEASURE ON THE BALLOT!!! SEE POST #2
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:11 AM
Dec 2015

You should delete this OP. You are spreading falsehoods.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. I think you're wrong.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

I'm no expert on Texas secession, but you appear to be confusing two different secessionist ventures.

The OP linked to an article stating that a committee of the Texas legislature had approved a bill, which will therefore proceed to go before the General Assembly. Your link is to an article about a proposal by the Republican Party to put a nonbinding referendum on the ballot on March 1, the date of the Presidential primary, for vote by the electorate.

According to the cited sources, the latter proposal was voted down but the former was approved.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
47. Considering that the Lege won't meet again until 2017, I doubt any committee did anything.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:03 PM
Dec 2015

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
34. Who will pay to dig up 150,000 veterans ...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

... from Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, and rebury them in the United States?

And many other little logistical nightmares.

Orrex

(67,112 posts)
35. The national GOP would never allow it
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

At least, not until Texas turns blue.

Giving up Texas' electoral votes for the sake of secession would be a death blow for the GOP's presidential ambitions for the next few decades. Seeing those votes go Democrat will achieve the same thing and will be so much sweeter.

struggle4progress

(126,158 posts)
48. Texas GOP Votes Down Secession Proposal
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:31 PM
Dec 2015

Texas GOP Votes Down Secession Proposal
by Patrick Svitek Dec. 5, 2015

... In a voice vote Saturday afternoon, the State Republican Executive Committee rejected a measure that would have put the issue on the March 1 primary ballot. The ballot language would have been non-binding, amounting to a formal survey of voters on whether they would like to see Texas declare its independence from the United States.

While the proposal's defeat was expected, the measure had sparked some heated debate on the 60-member executive committee, the governing body of the Republican Party of Texas ...

Tanya Robertson, the SREC member who introduced the proposal, argued at the executive committee meeting in Austin that the measure would have been "harmless," allowing voters to register an "opinion only." She also suggested the ballot language would have helped "get out the vote" among some Texas Republicans who have been sitting out recent elections ...

The pro-secession measure was sent to the full body on Friday after approval by its Resolutions Committee. The ballot language before the executive committee Saturday afternoon read, "If the Federal Government continues to disregard the Constitution and the sovereignty of the State of Texas, the State of Texas should reassert its prior status as an independent nation" ...


http://www.texastribune.org/2015/12/05/texas-gop-votes-down-controversial-secession-propo/

randys1

(16,286 posts)
51. Let's cut to the chase, this is what the resolution actually says
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:44 PM
Dec 2015
If the american people continue to elect non whites to the White House, the State of Texas and its people should reassert its prior status as an independent nation.
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
53. Send them a bill to reimburse tax dollars, wish them luck when the next
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

Natural disaster of fire happens when THEY ALONE can't handle it. Just go the fuck away already.

greymattermom

(5,807 posts)
57. How about putting a hold on all new federal spending in any state
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015

that is considering seceding. No new contracts, no road repair or construction, no dam repairs, just nothing new. That seems fair to me.

lordsummerisle

(4,653 posts)
62. Hey Texas
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:12 PM
Dec 2015

thanks for giving us Ted Cruz, who is not only a dominating force in the Senate but in the House as well I've been told (the Freedom Caucus). Thanks to you this nutcase could easily be the next president or VP under a Trump/Cruz ticket...

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