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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:14 PM Dec 2015

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 OP
Over use of any emotion makes that emotion cheap and pedestrian. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #1
I've heard so many of these faux alarms over the last 14 years, MoonRiver Dec 2015 #2
perhaps we should try to stop them before they happen patsimp Dec 2015 #4
this is scary - should they have a hearty laugh about planned terrorist attacks? patsimp Dec 2015 #3
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #5
You seem to. patsimp Dec 2015 #40
You edited your post. What's there now is not what was there before. Unfortunately, I didn't copy.. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #41
"they're not useful in entering the country. " How is not being useful scary? uppityperson Dec 2015 #12
They're not useful in THIS country leftynyc Dec 2015 #17
Why do people feel such a need to be rude and nasty? It is scary uppityperson Dec 2015 #19
When you've been here years leftynyc Dec 2015 #20
I've been here for yrs and listened to the whining but still, no need to be nasty to me. uppityperson Dec 2015 #22
Apologies leftynyc Dec 2015 #23
Thanks and it does get a bit much at times here. uppityperson Dec 2015 #24
Who do you suggest the US start bombing as a result of this revelation? frylock Dec 2015 #37
FDR fredamae Dec 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #7
If you can scare people enough, they'll tune back in to your show the next day. closeupready Dec 2015 #8
So, the Obama Administration is trying to scare us? brooklynite Dec 2015 #9
EEK!! Quick! Declare war on Greece and bomb Athens!! Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #10
Ratings-driven news is more for entertainment & propaganda than information, imo. grntuscarora Dec 2015 #11
So it's only scary if they can get into the US with them? B2G Dec 2015 #13
The MSNBC people weren't performing for Europe. It's a U.S. audience. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #14
I'm asking about the value of the fake passport if B2G Dec 2015 #16
MSNBC has an international outlet leftynyc Dec 2015 #18
Do the Europeans not scan the barcodes? I don't know because I'm not rich enough to go over there. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #38
He's way too ubiquitous malaise Dec 2015 #15
after Obama spoke sunday night, mr. engel was not impressed spanone Dec 2015 #21
Well to be kind malaise Dec 2015 #29
It should be MS"Trump 2016"NBC. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #25
What is the biggest Capitalistic Holiday of the Year? yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #26
Well the corporations aren't complaining malaise Dec 2015 #31
THEY will probably make yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #33
I simply assume that many of them profit from war malaise Dec 2015 #34
I'm more afraid for Europe than us LittleBlue Dec 2015 #27
I don't use Facebook myself. Two different people told me this week that doc03 Dec 2015 #28
AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!! THE HORROR!!!!!! Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #30
Really? And I had so much respect for you. SMH. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #36
Fear is bravery. merrily Dec 2015 #32
Life imitates M*A*S*H gratuitous Dec 2015 #35
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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. Over use of any emotion makes that emotion cheap and pedestrian.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:16 PM
Dec 2015

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
2. I've heard so many of these faux alarms over the last 14 years,
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015

that they fail to impress anymore. I reserve my horror for real events, such as San Bernadino.

patsimp

(915 posts)
4. perhaps we should try to stop them before they happen
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015

patsimp

(915 posts)
3. this is scary - should they have a hearty laugh about planned terrorist attacks?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
5. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? nt
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:20 PM
Dec 2015

patsimp

(915 posts)
40. You seem to.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:03 PM
Dec 2015
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
41. You edited your post. What's there now is not what was there before. Unfortunately, I didn't copy..
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:07 PM
Dec 2015

...your post as it originally appeared. I won't make that mistake again.

uppityperson

(116,017 posts)
12. "they're not useful in entering the country. " How is not being useful scary?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:48 PM
Dec 2015
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. They're not useful in THIS country
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:50 PM
Dec 2015

Once they're in Athens, they can get into any other EU country. Are Americans so fucking egocentric they don't care about the risk to other countries?

uppityperson

(116,017 posts)
19. Why do people feel such a need to be rude and nasty? It is scary
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. When you've been here years
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:55 PM
Dec 2015

and listen to the whining about how egocentric Americans are and who the fuck do we think we are and all that crap and then something like this comes up and I get to watch those very same Americans scoff at the threat because it DOESN'T effect Americans, you bet it makes me angry and nasty. It's nauseating to watch.

uppityperson

(116,017 posts)
22. I've been here for yrs and listened to the whining but still, no need to be nasty to me.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:57 PM
Dec 2015

You are right, I read the OP about not being useful into the usa and that's as far as I thought. I appreciate that being pointed out, but don't appreciate being told so nastily. Thank you anyway.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. Apologies
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

It's been a rough day of watching people try and defend child marriage due to "cultural differences" and other nonsense. All while I'm called a hater and an Islamophobe for bringing up "inconvenient" facts. I have to defend myself every single day here and it gets tiring. I shouldn't have put you in the middle of that.

uppityperson

(116,017 posts)
24. Thanks and it does get a bit much at times here.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:01 PM
Dec 2015

frylock

(34,825 posts)
37. Who do you suggest the US start bombing as a result of this revelation?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:32 PM
Dec 2015

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
6. FDR
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:20 PM
Dec 2015


Longer audio of his first inaugural speech.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5057

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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. If you can scare people enough, they'll tune back in to your show the next day.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:26 PM
Dec 2015

And the next. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
9. So, the Obama Administration is trying to scare us?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:27 PM
Dec 2015
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
10. EEK!! Quick! Declare war on Greece and bomb Athens!!
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
11. Ratings-driven news is more for entertainment & propaganda than information, imo.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

nt
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. So it's only scary if they can get into the US with them?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure Europe is amused by this development.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
14. The MSNBC people weren't performing for Europe. It's a U.S. audience.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:35 PM
Dec 2015
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
16. I'm asking about the value of the fake passport if
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:46 PM
Dec 2015

the barcode renders them useless to enter the US.

European countries don't scan the barcodes?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. MSNBC has an international outlet
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015

I saw it myself when I was in Israel. I've seen people here whine about how Americans are so egocentric and here they are scoffing at a threat merely because it doesn't effect Americans. Nauseating.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
38. Do the Europeans not scan the barcodes? I don't know because I'm not rich enough to go over there.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:36 PM
Dec 2015

malaise

(295,805 posts)
15. He's way too ubiquitous
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:45 PM
Dec 2015

for my liking - every event on the planet he's there. Hmmmm!

spanone

(141,529 posts)
21. after Obama spoke sunday night, mr. engel was not impressed
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:56 PM
Dec 2015

in the least

malaise

(295,805 posts)
29. Well to be kind
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:15 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not impressed with Mr Engel in the least

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
25. It should be MS"Trump 2016"NBC.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:01 PM
Dec 2015

How long can the Federal Election Commission lay low on the commercialization of our political debates, our elective process?

America's new motto should be: "I am not a role model."

yuiyoshida

(45,396 posts)
26. What is the biggest Capitalistic Holiday of the Year?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:06 PM
Dec 2015

Christmas right? Republicans want you to spend all your hard earned money on the holidays, and don't they know by jacking up the fear, they maybe preventing places like Macy's from having massive crowds this year? Walmart, K-mart, all have giant sales, and people want to go shopping but, gee.... if we fear a terrorist attack, who is going to go? Do they want us to spend money or not?

seems like they are doing their own war on Christmas, by keeping patrons out of the stores... can't have it both ways Republicans!

malaise

(295,805 posts)
31. Well the corporations aren't complaining
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:17 PM
Dec 2015

or they'd take their ads off of M$Greedia who spread fear just as well as ReTHUGs

yuiyoshida

(45,396 posts)
33. THEY will probably make
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:19 PM
Dec 2015

money either way... I guess, idk anymore

malaise

(295,805 posts)
34. I simply assume that many of them profit from war
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:22 PM
Dec 2015

and warmongering- idk anything anymore

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
27. I'm more afraid for Europe than us
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

It is alarming that these passports are for sale to terrorists. Did you see the chemical weapons report from Europe? These aren't wingers or media sensationalists, it's from the European Parliament.

http://www.newsweek.com/eu-warned-prepare-isis-chemical-attack-illegal-materials-smuggled-past-blocs-401741

doc03

(39,074 posts)
28. I don't use Facebook myself. Two different people told me this week that
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:12 PM
Dec 2015

they saw on Facebook they caught 2 people dressed in Muslim attire checking out the exit doors at the local mall theater. It's bullshit someone started, the Sheriff knows nothing about any such thing. I guess one of Trump's supporters or another Republican started it.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
30. AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!! THE HORROR!!!!!!
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:15 PM
Dec 2015
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
36. Really? And I had so much respect for you. SMH. nt
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:29 PM
Dec 2015

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. Fear is bravery.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:19 PM
Dec 2015

Apologies to Orwell.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
35. Life imitates M*A*S*H
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:27 PM
Dec 2015

In one episode, a GI had had enough of the war, and after getting injured again, takes Dr. Winchester hostage one evening. He demands a chopper to get him out of there. Col. Potter persuades the young man (played by John Ritter, as I recall) to keep cool, but choppers can't fly at night, and he'll have to wait until morning. During the night, Cpl. Klinger succeeds in exchanging himself for Maj. Winchester, who is only too happy to get free. Klinger has a plan to use the other fellow's escape attempt as his ticket to leave the service without risking desertion charges.

When dawn finally arrives, the desperate GI has lost a lot of blood, and passes out when the chopper arrives. Klinger, not realizing his captor is in no condition to move, comes out of post-op with his hands up to head to the chopper. He suddenly realizes his erstwhile partner is no longer with him. He dashes back in, but the GI is unresponsive. Hoisting him up, Klinger attempts to carry/walk the guy to the waiting helicopter, admonishing everyone, "Stay back! He could come to at any moment!" Everyone rushes the unconscious would-be deserter, of course, order is restored, and Klinger is once again out of luck.

These stories seem more and more like Cpl. Klinger admonishing us, "Look out! This tactic won't work, we're onto it, but be scared just the same!"

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