CHILD ABUSE: TODDLER SINGS ‘AIN’T NO HOMOS GONNA MAKE IT TO HEAVEN’ IN CHURCH

[proud2BlibKansan]

Wow. Just wow. This is one of those astonishing things where you watch it and your brain just freezes for a few moments while you try to make sense of what you just saw.

I know the Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong
I know the Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong

Aint no homos going to make it to heaven

These kids get a standing ovation, too, from a roomful of ADULTS. If this doesn’t send chills down your spine, nothing ever will.

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/child_abuse_toddler_sings_aint_no_homo_gonna_make_it_to_heaven_in_church

[mercuryblues]

1. They

have to be carefully taught.

[Quantess]

2. Poor kid.

He is too young to even understand what a "homo" is. That is child abuse.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Yep.

Sad, isn't it?

[Sugarcoated]

4. Poisoning their children with hatred

as the Nancy Griffiths song goes.

[HopeHoops]

5. Bigotry is learned, not natural. Homosexuality is natural, not learned.

Those parents are exactly why our country is so far from becoming unified. And I file that under "child abuse".

[Arkansas Granny]

7. Absolutely!

[snooper2]

6. Religous brainwashing in action..

luckily the kids will have a greater opportunity via education, Internet, peers to see what a farce it is compared to say their grandparents.

[sinkingfeeling]

8. Explain to me again how Islam is a terrible religion, but 'Christianity' is soooo loving

and good.

[Meiko]

18. Islam

does not condone homosexuality, just sayin'

[sinkingfeeling]

43. And the church where this kid sang does? Again, explain the difference.

[unreadierLizard]

48. To be fair, no organized Christian group advocates outright killing of gays

as Islam does.

It's only the fringe losers we hear about calling for that. With Islam, especially in the MidEast, gays are often killed for being gay with the full support of authorities.

[Erose999]

53. Well there was that one guy who advocated putting gays into concentration camps. And theres Westboro

etc.

I think the level of hate is the same its just that Islam shouts it out loud and the Jeezus Nazi's here in America usually only ever speak about it in hushed tones.

[HiPointDem]

52. neither do christianity or judaism in their earlier incarnations (& some present ones)

[lamp_shade]

9. Denis Leary quote > >

[Douglas Carpenter]

10. that is truly both sad and chilling - has the hateful spirit of a mini Nuremberg rally

[Initech]

11. Man what the hell is up with the fundies lately? They're getting scarier and scarier.

First you have that asshole in North Carolina calling for a creepy Hitler-esque "final solution", then you have that asshole in Kansas who thinks the government should use drones to kill GLBT people, and now this - what the fuck is going on here??????? Their hate knows no boundaries anymore and I don't think they'll ever get it until we start making them pay.

[Starry Messenger]

12. A friend of mine on FB pointed out that the right-wing is ratcheting up the reaction

ever since Obama made his statement supporting same-sex marriage. It brought out the serious hate.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. No surprise.

Look at how they went overboard with the fake claim that Obama was going to take their guns away. And all because he got elected.

These people are paranoid and stupid.

[Starry Messenger]

15. And armed!

I hope they don't start hunting LGBT people down and harming them en masse. Things are bad enough here for LGBT people now.

[Meiko]

19. Unlikely

wouldn't you agree?

[Starry Messenger]

32. No, not unlikely.

I wouldn't have posted what I did if our country didn't have a history of physically persecuting hated minorities.

Hate violence against LGBTQ people is on the rise. From 2006 to 2008, reports of anti-LGBT bias-moti- vated violence increased by 26 percent overall, with a 36 percent climb in crimes committed by strangers, a 48 percent increase in bias-related sexual assault, and an all-time high rate of hate violence resulting in murder. In 2008, medical attention was required by 46 percent of all victims of LGBT hate violence reported to NCAVP programs.3 According to another recent study, approximately 20 percent of lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people experienced a crime against their person or property based on their sexual orientation and 50 percent experienced verbal harassment over their lifetime.4 In addition, reports of anti- LGBT bias-related physical abuse at the hands of law enforcement personnel increased 150 percent from 2007 to 2008.5

The impact of hate violence harms members of the victim’s community as well, and can leave them feeling isolated, vulnerable, and unprotected by the law.6 A 2006 poll found that 54 percent of LGBTQ people responding were “concerned,” “very concerned,” or “extremely concerned” about being the victim of a hate crime.7 According to studies by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), hate crimes based on sexual orientation bias have more serious and long-lasting psychological effects than other crimes because of the link to core aspects of the victim’s identity and community.8

http://www.avp.org/documents/WhyItMatters.pdf

[obamanut2012]

45. No

I can totally see it happening.

[Occulus]

54. No

As at least two threads in the past week have illustrated, they are now openly speaking of killing us off on a large scale.

It will not be long before preachers start giving actual names of "faggots who deserve killin'" to their congregations.

[Occulus]

36. It isn't just the fundies.

I have come to the (sad) conclusion that these people actually do represent the majority of mainstream christians, and it is the "real" Jesus-follower types that are in the extreme minority.

[tsuki]

47. Son and I were talking and we are wondering if the Fundie bubble has hit. Several "churches"

have gone dark, bankrupt, around here. What is left is getting crazier and crazier trying to attract new members, altho they claim membership in the thousands already. We see all kinds of big buildings with maybe a quarter full parking lot on Sunday. And their membership is not really that well off.

They scream louder and crazier to make you think there are more of them.

[Goblinmonger]

13. Just so I get this straight

It's OK to mock someone's religious beliefs now? Just trying to keep up.

[dmallind]

16. Shame on you

These are deeply held beliefs that sustain and support good people, including many Democrats. Mocking them is hateful and bigoted.

[Douglas Carpenter]

17. are you suggesting the OP is mocking religious beliefs not just shock at teaching chldren to hate?

[Goblinmonger]

24. I'm not going after the OP at all.

I have no problems with her. My point is that these people are acting on their religious beliefs. Is it OK to make fun of people's religious beliefs or not?

[Douglas Carpenter]

27. I think it is bad manners to make fun of peoples' family, country, religion or culture in places

such as here on DU where people come from a wide variety of backgrounds and have different ranges of sensitivity. Someone teaching a toddler to sing what to me amounts to a hateful song horrifies me not because it involves anyone’s religious beliefs but because inspires a kind of hateful attitude.

[progressivebydesign]

44. they're not singing it in a coffee shop, and they are referring to their religion in the song...

.. unless they're referring to Bryan Adam's song "Heaven." So their religion is absolutely fair game.

[Bake]

29. IF their religious beliefs include hatred, yes, they deserve to be mocked.

They get no respect from me.

God doesn't hate. If people do, they don't know God. Simple as that. No hate. What part of that is so hard to understand?

Bake

[Goblinmonger]

33. OT god had a lot of hate.

Jesus hated fig trees that didn't produce fruit out of season when he wanted some. Also hated money changers.

When did you get the official title of knowing what god really thinks?

What about a god that would condemn me to hell for not worshiping him? That's some straight up hate.

[lapislzi]

35. My life became a lot easier when I dispensed with the deity.

I stopped worrying about what he or she liked or disliked, or others' opinions of same. My job is to spend my time in this sphere as productively and compassionately as I can.

I do not presume to know the mind of god. Soon enough I will know. If I'm wrong, too bad for me.

None of the above statements preclude me from exercising my right to mock hateful ideas and their expression.

[Occulus]

39. When they want to discriminate against me in law based on those religious beliefs,

beliefs I do not and will never share, then yes. It is not only acceptable to mock and deride them, it is necessary, or I end up living under their rules- rules which, by definition, cannot apply to me.

It is one short step from believing someone is going to your religion's hell to sending them there early. Damn skippy I will mock and deride those beliefs. My life may well depend on it.

[Goblinmonger]

42. I'm with you.

My point is the hypocrisy of many here who tell others not to make fun of religious beliefs and then turn around to make fun of other's beliefs.

[dmallind]

50. The analogy seems to be escaping many

It's ok to mock and speak harshly about this Christian group. No defenders at all.

It's apparently NOT ok to mock and speak harshly about, say, Catholicism despite its coverup and enabling of far worse abuse than this. Treat a Catholic group like this church and you're likely to be hidden; certain to be roundly castigated by many.

Why the difference? Simple - most DUers don't like churches like this one. Many of them like the Catholic church.

Why the inability to see the cognitive dissonance in allowing or codoning different treatment of different unacceptable behavior by different Christian groups? Not a clue.

[Occulus]

55. Then go ahead and call me a hypocrite.

I won't contradict where this particular topic is concerned.

I'll instead wear it as a badge of honor.

[Iggo]

49. Teaching children to hate IS their religious belief.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. wtf

You think it's okay to teach a toddler to sing this song?

[Goblinmonger]

22. No, I think there are all kinds of fucked up things in all kinds of religions

But when I say that about the religion of someone on DU (hypothetically we could us Catholics as an example) then I am told to not be an asshole and that religious beliefs are not to be made fun of (not an exact quotation).

So, if religion is off limits, then why can we make fun of these, from what I can tell, firmly held religious beliefs?

[lapislzi]

31. It's all fair game to me.

Let them scoot behind their quivering "respect" curtain. As I told my father once as he raised his hand to hit me for the last time for being "disrespectful," respect has to be earned.

You don't get a free pass because you buy into some belief system.

[Dorian Gray]

57. Really

Because I'm Catholic and I know that there is a lot to criticize the Catholic church about. I believe that the Bishops and Cardinals have pretty much reaped what they've sown, and criticisms are fair play. Just as criticizing this church that allows children to sing hateful songs about gay men and women is fair.

Mocking? I don't really mock beliefs, but all this talk about people on DU not abiding fair criticism is sort of BS. Most of us can and do understand where it comes from. Not everyone is super sensitive to it.

[lapislzi]

21. Uh, yeah.

Always has been, always will be.

Where is it written that I have to "respect" something because some person or persons believe that a sky wizard said it/wants it/hates it?

I have zero respect for a so-called belief system that teaches hate. And I will mock it unto eternity.

[Goblinmonger]

23. Try that with Catholics

and tell me how many people call you a Catholic hater.

[Marrah_G]

26. My respose to being called a Catholic hater...

"Meh"

To me it's like being called a race traitor by a member of a white supremacist group.

[Goblinmonger]

28. Thanks for the laugh. n/t

[lapislzi]

30. Like I care.

There are many decent, compassionate Catholics out there, many of whom I call my friends. Many struggle with the issues put before them by the church. These are not the people teaching their children to hate. These are people struggling to reconcile what they know to be true with what they're being fed by their church.

But the monolithic Church as an institution, with its institutionalized misogyny, its homophobia, its pedophilia, its bloated sense of its own importance? I call that a worthy topic for mockery.

What, is some trumped-up bishop with a pointy hat going to chastise me? Fine, I will present my ass in all its glory.

[progressivebydesign]

46. Once a religion has their own bank, they lose me. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. Former Catholic here

All that hate is well deserved, if you ask me.

[Goblinmonger]

38. Same here.

[ZombieHorde]

40. Good point. We're getting some mixed messages. nt

[Marrah_G]

25. And that little boy could be gay.

Those adults scare me.

[HughBeaumont]

37. Frank Zappa said it best . . .

“My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can”

[Fire Walk With Me]

41. There may be a section in the Bible which says

"Judge not, lest ye be judged. Judgement is mine, sayeth the Lord."

Maybe.

Might be worth a little research on their part.

[4th law of robotics]

51. What church was this?

Anyone know?

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

56. If Jesus Saves

If Jesus saves,
well he better save himself,
from the gory glory seekers,
Who use his name in death.

Jethro Tull