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"I am a warrior for the babies" have they announced a motive? (Original Post) spanone Dec 2015 OP
Not yet, not even a guess AuntPatsy Dec 2015 #1
gee, i wonder what it could be? spanone Dec 2015 #2
Rachel will be discussing this with Cecile Richards malaise Dec 2015 #14
Bank robber I believe.... winstars Dec 2015 #3
That was what I heard .... etherealtruth Dec 2015 #6
Getting up off the floor malaise Dec 2015 #11
being a 'warrior for the babies' i just can't imagine what the confused boy was thinkin'? spanone Dec 2015 #12
Did you catch Steve King on Chris Hayes? malaise Dec 2015 #13
CBS News: Accused gunman asked for directions to Planned Parenthood spanone Dec 2015 #17
Nah, just a hateful little shit who took it too far. randys1 Dec 2015 #4
mentally ill loners don't have motives dlwickham Dec 2015 #5
Chins will be solemnly stroked hifiguy Dec 2015 #7
perplexing! spanone Dec 2015 #8
Save the fetus, screw the child! Phlem Dec 2015 #9
The "baybeeez". smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #21
Pretty sure I heard that phrase in a doc "12th & Delaware", about a Fla clinic. Mika Dec 2015 #10
Let him plead guilty and never be heard from again. nt madinmaryland Dec 2015 #15
Er,mental illness? H2O Man Dec 2015 #16
why sir, there's nary another explanation. he also asked for directions to PP. spanone Dec 2015 #19
Further proof H2O Man Dec 2015 #20
I just watched the video of his arraingment, it's obvious he's crazy. Archae Dec 2015 #24
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Dec 2015 #25
I don't think he was responding to voices gwheezie Dec 2015 #26
When he knew he was cornered he put down his Downwinder Dec 2015 #28
Yeah, it's ridiculous when people contort themselves Codeine Dec 2015 #18
Where are his babies? Downwinder Dec 2015 #22
But there's no such thing as Christian terrorism. No sir! Initech Dec 2015 #23
Impossible to even imagine. valerief Dec 2015 #27
I think Carly's filled her VP slot. NBachers Dec 2015 #29
Hope they can find his motivation for killing people Democat Dec 2015 #30

malaise

(269,172 posts)
13. Did you catch Steve King on Chris Hayes?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:13 PM
Dec 2015

Good effin' grief!!!
Says Dear was not a Christian. How is Steve King still in the House

spanone

(135,880 posts)
17. CBS News: Accused gunman asked for directions to Planned Parenthood
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:12 PM
Dec 2015
DENVER -- The man accused of killing three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado asked at least one person in a nearby shopping center for directions to the facility before opening fire, law enforcement sources confirm to CBS News, offering the clearest suggestion yet that he was targeting the reproductive health organization.

Prosecutors this week plan to charge Robert Lewis Dear, 57, with murder and other crimes in the Nov. 27 attack that also left nine other people wounded. Colorado Springs police have refused to discuss a motive for the fusillade, but there's mounting evidence to suggest Dear was deeply concerned about abortion, having rambled to authorities about "no more baby parts" after his arrest.

Dear asked at least one person in the nearby shopping center where the Planned Parenthood was earlier that morning, an official told the Associated Press.

A second law enforcement official said Dear assembled propane tanks around a vehicle and brought at least 10 guns, including rifles and handguns, to the clinic, where he swapped gunfire with officers during an hours-long standoff. It was unclear whether Dear purchased all of them, but despite brushes with the law, he had no felony convictions that would have prevented him from buying a firearm.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/planned-parenthood-shooting-suspect-robert-dear-asked-for-directions-to-clinic/

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Chins will be solemnly stroked
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:38 PM
Dec 2015

by the propaganda punditocracy but no answer will be determined. No one will ever know his motivation. Bank it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. The "baybeeez".
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:35 PM
Dec 2015

Fuck them all. They are just murdering assholes hiding behind their false concern for "baybeeez". It's like claiming the insanity theory for committing a horrible crime. They think it will get them off the hook.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
10. Pretty sure I heard that phrase in a doc "12th & Delaware", about a Fla clinic.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:56 PM
Dec 2015

I'm pretty sure I heard some of the anti-choicers either chanting it or responding to questions of why they were harassing women going into the clinic with that phrase.


Democracy Now!

"12th & Delaware" Offers Unique Inside Look at Struggle Between Abortion Clinic and Anti-Abortion Pregnancy Care Center
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/2/12th_and_delaware_offers_unique_inside




H2O Man

(73,621 posts)
20. Further proof
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:27 PM
Dec 2015

that he is so mentally ill that he couldn't help himself. We needs our support and understanding, to help him deal with the pain those murder victims have caused him.

Archae

(46,347 posts)
24. I just watched the video of his arraingment, it's obvious he's crazy.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:28 PM
Dec 2015

I've seen schizophrenics blurting out stuff based on the voices in their heads, and this guy was doing that.

H2O Man

(73,621 posts)
25. Respectfully disagree.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:53 PM
Dec 2015

I worked for decades with people suffering from major mental illnesses, including the range of illnesses known as "schizophrenia." His "blurting" seemed rather well-timed, and he was definitely following the conversation taking place around him. Even if one believes that he has a mental illness, he made it 100% clear that he understands and appreciates the concepts of "right and wrong."

Is he a strange man? Yes. Hopefully, there aren't many others like him. Might he be attempting to play "mentally ill"? Very good chance of it.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
26. I don't think he was responding to voices
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:00 AM
Dec 2015

I think he was quite clear thinking that he wanted to murder people because of his ideology and extreme religious beliefs.
He knew what he was doing. I don't think based on what he said in court that he is insane. I do think in order to protect his rights he should have a psychiatric assessment but hey since he said he's guilty, I take his word for it.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
18. Yeah, it's ridiculous when people contort themselves
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:20 PM
Dec 2015

into logic pretzels to deny the obvious when it conflicts with their preferred narrative.

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