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951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:13 PM Dec 2015

96% of African Americans polled don't agree that Trump has gone too far over plan to ban Muslims?

Question: Has Donald Trump gone too far with his plan to ban all Muslims?










Caucasian - 69%
Hispanic - 87%
African American - 96%
Other - 86%


Democrat - 83%
Independent - 92%
Republican - 86%


What in the hell?

Is this for real?
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96% of African Americans polled don't agree that Trump has gone too far over plan to ban Muslims? (Original Post) 951-Riverside Dec 2015 OP
I wonder what the sample size was, something sounds off about this poll ck4829 Dec 2015 #1
Thank you JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #2
Online poll Renew Deal Dec 2015 #13
An online poll that was probably bombarded by those seeking a specific outcome? marmar Dec 2015 #3
It's an online poll... NYC Liberal Dec 2015 #4
Where is the link for this poll? nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #5
Unrec. I wonder what the agenda is here. demmiblue Dec 2015 #6
^this marmar Dec 2015 #8
No witchhunting please. climber3986 Dec 2015 #18
I can witch hunt any unscientific poll I like, thank you. demmiblue Dec 2015 #20
of course you can witch hunt a poll, don't witch hunt riverside for saying 'what the hell' climber3986 Dec 2015 #22
Post #7 and post #14 may be helpful for you. demmiblue Dec 2015 #25
96% of AAs is the highest % reported in the poll, it makes sense for someone not knowing what was .. climber3986 Dec 2015 #33
Inferring a motive, if based off consistency of posting patterns is not a witch-hunt.. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #41
depends climber3986 Dec 2015 #43
yes he has. like blaming black culture for violence JI7 Dec 2015 #50
if thats true then I take back my earlier defense of Riverside climber3986 Dec 2015 #58
^^^^^^^ OK....Who's sock is this? ^^^^^^^^ Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #51
Speak up! You're not wondering, you have already decided there is one. So...let's have it. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #26
And the headline ought to read...... marmar Dec 2015 #7
+1000 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #9
Yep. demmiblue Dec 2015 #11
+100 Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #46
I googled your OP title,the only "reporting" I found was from sufrommich Dec 2015 #10
What is that supposed to mean? 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #12
No,I mean that I couldn't find the poll you just posted here sufrommich Dec 2015 #15
It was a live poll though Pulse, so it wasn't listed on their website. Lancero Dec 2015 #17
Poll website in screenshots angrychair Dec 2015 #23
The title pics say MSNBC Reter Dec 2015 #42
And all the other numbers are way too high also brush Dec 2015 #14
Where did you find these images? Do you have a link? demmiblue Dec 2015 #16
Link in screenshots angrychair Dec 2015 #21
Bullshit. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #19
I remember seeing this live on MSNBC n/t Matrosov Dec 2015 #24
Looks like a BS online poll still_one Dec 2015 #27
Looks like most of the NO respondents were under 35. MADem Dec 2015 #28
Well, duh MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #29
Correct you are 1939 Dec 2015 #47
No. You don't. marmar Dec 2015 #59
Precisely, black folk aren't any more xenophobic than other Americans DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #60
It's not immigrants from everywhere taking crappie ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #61
9.6% unemployment doesn't help MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #62
I personally don't trust online polls. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #30
I suspect that the group "Maryland 4 Trump" is a manipulator of polls ck4829 Dec 2015 #31
ha ha. Keep voting in this on line poll. riversedge Dec 2015 #32
I was polled by phone yesterday. DURHAM D Dec 2015 #34
A month ago, you were in favour of polls, and now you try to sabotage them muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #39
It was a push poll for a teabagger. DURHAM D Dec 2015 #48
Fuck no it's not for real. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #35
Somehow I think that if this poll was reporting the same thing Tipperary Dec 2015 #36
Of course not melman Dec 2015 #44
I agree with Faux pas Dec 2015 #37
Online poll...."keep voting" brooklynite Dec 2015 #38
Clickety-clickety-click. MineralMan Dec 2015 #40
Two points. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #45
your a troll. you posted the thing about black rappers and other black culture being to blame JI7 Dec 2015 #49
That is a blatant smear and a lie but I'm not going to alert on it. 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #55
its a fucking online poll. you are the one who thinks it's representative of reality JI7 Dec 2015 #56
Again, it aired on MSNBC. How are you not getting that? 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #57
if these are republican voters i would be shocked. patsimp Dec 2015 #52
i cant believe agnostic102 Dec 2015 #53
Looks like they got it exactly bass ackward HassleCat Dec 2015 #54

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
2. Thank you
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:19 PM
Dec 2015

If they are fox viewers/readers - I think this probably included like - Allen West, Stacy Dash, and maybe 100 other people.

marmar

(79,739 posts)
3. An online poll that was probably bombarded by those seeking a specific outcome?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015

I'm SHOCKED !!!!


NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
4. It's an online poll...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015

(The same as all those online polls that show Sanders winning in a landslide.)

climber3986

(107 posts)
18. No witchhunting please.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:43 PM
Dec 2015

Accusing people of having ulterior motive / agenda by simply being surprised at a poll like this is silly. Anyone seeing poll results like this would be shocked especially if they didn't know what was going on.

Riverside,

Anti-Muslim / right wing groups often target and vote bomb online polls where you can vote repeatedly to try to shape the narrative.

demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
20. I can witch hunt any unscientific poll I like, thank you.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:48 PM
Dec 2015

Poll, though, does rhyme with a lot of words.

climber3986

(107 posts)
22. of course you can witch hunt a poll, don't witch hunt riverside for saying 'what the hell'
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dec 2015

His post didn't seem like an endorsement, and you trying to tie him to it is sick.

climber3986

(107 posts)
33. 96% of AAs is the highest % reported in the poll, it makes sense for someone not knowing what was ..
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:19 PM
Dec 2015

going on to be confused and point this out.

but whatever, it seems you already have Riverside pegged as the same neo-nazis rigging the poll in the first place.

I bet he goes to monthly klan meetings as well, mods can we ban him off DU asap?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. Inferring a motive, if based off consistency of posting patterns is not a witch-hunt..
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:38 PM
Dec 2015

Inferring a motive, when based off of the consistency of posting patterns is neither a witch-hunt nor an accusation... it's an observation.

climber3986

(107 posts)
43. depends
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:57 PM
Dec 2015

Has he made similar threads like this using propaganda from right wing groups saying 'hey guys look at this!' ?

If so then you may have a point.

If not, then it just seems like a witch hunt. I tend to want to give people the benefit of the doubt before labeling them as a right wing bigot.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
26. Speak up! You're not wondering, you have already decided there is one. So...let's have it. nt
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:03 PM
Dec 2015

marmar

(79,739 posts)
7. And the headline ought to read......
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:24 PM
Dec 2015

96% of people claiming to be African Americans in some Bing online poll.......


sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
15. No,I mean that I couldn't find the poll you just posted here
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:34 PM
Dec 2015

on MSNBC's website so I googled your OPs headline. The only place it showed up was on InfoWars. Where is the poll on MSNBC? Can you link to it?

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
17. It was a live poll though Pulse, so it wasn't listed on their website.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

Takes a few seconds to find where MSNBC claims the poll however - https://twitter.com/RobertsMSNBC/status/674293758381412352

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
23. Poll website in screenshots
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dec 2015

Don't agree with poll results but the link to the poll is in the screenshot: pulse.msnbc.com you can go here -where it redirects- scroll down: https://app.bingpulse.com/msnbcdayside/daypulse

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. And all the other numbers are way too high also
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:33 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder what the agenda is to call out AAs only?

demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
16. Where did you find these images? Do you have a link?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

I would check out the source of your pictures, but I am not on my desktop. Curious minds and all.

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
21. Link in screenshots
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:49 PM
Dec 2015

Don't agree with poll results but the link to the poll is in the screenshot: pulse.msnbc.com you can go here -where it redirects- scroll down: https://app.bingpulse.com/msnbcdayside/daypulse

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Looks like most of the NO respondents were under 35.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

The older some get, the kinder some get.

Also, I question the sample size as well. It's not like most people don't know a black muslim or two. To where are the Farrakhan followers to be deported, I have to ask?

I call "shenanigans" on the methodology of this mess.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
29. Well, duh
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:11 PM
Dec 2015

The African American community is getting slammed by unskilled, uneducated, limited-English immigrants (from everywhere) willing to take crappy jobs at low wages, thereby making African Americans a permanent underclass.

I would surprised if they did not take an anti-immigrant position.

1939

(1,683 posts)
47. Correct you are
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:26 PM
Dec 2015

While I don't believe the numbers in the poll since an on-line poll is "self selected", I would not be surprised to see higher A-A numbers in any poll about immigrant groups. I have nothing concrete to back that up, just a feeling. .

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
60. Precisely, black folk aren't any more xenophobic than other Americans
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:50 PM
Dec 2015

TPTB would sure love to turn minorities against one another though...

Also, it's a unscientific poll and all the races came off as xenophobic.





 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
61. It's not immigrants from everywhere taking crappie ...
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015

Low wage jobs that has Black folks as an under-class.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
62. 9.6% unemployment doesn't help
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015

I agree there are many issues going on, but I'm a 91 year old Jewish guy. I served in WWII.

Back in the 1930s, the thugs of the Bronx had a Yiddish accent. We were the underclass and feared.

Not sure why people don't remember this, and there was some "good" reason for the fear -- we were dirt poor, "different," and yes, we did all sorts of crime and were locked out of a lot of jobs.

Restaurants, stores, apartments, etc, had "no Jews" policies.

And we weren't helping things. I was well on my way to being a career criminal prior to WWII, and guilty of several bad things, from burglary to robbery. I ran with a gang that did terrible things that they now make gangster movies about and glorify. (After the war, where I was made a MP because I dealt with Germans being a native German speaker, I oddly became a cop before going to college and later law school.)

Anyway, over the course of the almost century in which I have lived, we Yids (that used to be the equivalent of various nasty words for blacks, also largely in the dustbin) somehow became tolerable.

I still talk funny, look a bit odd, and have funny practices. I'm part of the "other."

Yes, I still face routine discrimination. In any big city, I will get cat calls ("Jooooo...&quot , hard shoulders, and funny looks. As I related in another post, not very long ago, I was filling up my rental car in Hobby Airport when a kid leaned out of his car window and chunked a red slurpee all over me with the call "f---g Jooooooooo."

That kind of stuff never goes away. Some people are just assholes. Undoubtedly you get your share, probably more.

But it does fade away to the fringes.

Somehow Jewish people as a group ceased to be underclass, including me. I directly reported to a President of the USA, for example.

What happened is WWII. Immigration was shut down, workers (and soldiers) were needed (even us Yids), and we moved up the monetary (if not exactly polite society) ladder, and things got much, much better.

The same opportunity needs to be made available for blacks.

I believe certain elements of our political class, motivated by the cynical desire for money are intentionally keeping this opportunity from blacks because they want cheap labor. It's slavery under a different name.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
30. I personally don't trust online polls.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015

Notwithstanding the fact that many posters in GD-P seem to vastly prefer them to real polls, for some reason.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
31. I suspect that the group "Maryland 4 Trump" is a manipulator of polls
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015
https://twitter.com/maryland4trump

They frequently put up links to polls by the "malicious media" and tell people to do this...

"MSNBC Poll: Did Trump go too far? VOTE NO! (& keep voting NO every 5 secs)"

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
34. I was polled by phone yesterday.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:19 PM
Dec 2015

I indicated I was 35-42, male and Native American. I am none of those things.

Then I answered the questions opposite of what I really think.

So much for polls...phone, online or TV.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
36. Somehow I think that if this poll was reporting the same thing
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:23 PM
Dec 2015

about white southerners - you would not be getting all this blowback.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
40. Clickety-clickety-click.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

Click it once,
Click it twice,
Click it thrice or more.

Online polls get clicked
and clicked and clicked
They're really quite a bore.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
45. Two points.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:07 PM
Dec 2015

1) The numbers for all groups are alarmingly high
2) It's a online opt in poll and consequently has little or no descriptive value.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
49. your a troll. you posted the thing about black rappers and other black culture being to blame
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:34 PM
Dec 2015

You take some non scientific poll and try to use it against an entire community now.

Look everyone it's the blacks that are the problem

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
55. That is a blatant smear and a lie but I'm not going to alert on it.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:51 PM
Dec 2015
you posted the thing about black rappers and other black culture being to blame


Go ahead and quote the post where I did that.


You take some non scientific poll and try to use it against an entire community now.


Where the hell did you get that from?

I thought the poll was bullshit which is why I wondered why MSNBC went with it. I never attributed it to African Americans, anyone with half a brain there is just no way 96% of African Americans polled would agree with his statements nor would 83% of democrats.

That's why I posted

Instead of getting pissed off at me maybe you should be asking why MSNBC aired some bullshit online poll. What is their agenda here?

Look everyone it's the blacks that are the problem


You really need to take it down a notch.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
57. Again, it aired on MSNBC. How are you not getting that?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015
you are the one who thinks it's representative of reality


What? Where did I ever suggest that?

I don't mind you confronting me but you cannot just continue to make up stuff. People can read what I posted and said.

agnostic102

(198 posts)
53. i cant believe
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:46 PM
Dec 2015

i cant believe this.. arent like 25 percent of african americans muslim? this poll is very confusing? how did they get these results?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
54. Looks like they got it exactly bass ackward
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:46 PM
Dec 2015

Look at the age breakdown. Are they telling me the youngest age cohort agrees with Trump more than the older age cohorts? No way. I'm not buying that for a second. And they're telling me Democrats and Republicans line up within 3 points of each other? With overwhelming support for Trump's statements? There is no way this poll is accurate.

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