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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRahm Emanuel is in Deep, Deep Trouble
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/10/rahm-emanuel-is-running-out-of-options-and-time-in-chicago/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_rahm_fix_930am%3Ahomepage%2FstoryMore and more despite his speech Wednesday it appears resigning could indeed be what Emanuel will be forced to do in order to restore Chicagoans' faith in their government. (Already, an Illinois state lawmaker is starting the process to recall him.)
Thanks in part to a series of missteps by the mayor after the shooting, exacerbated by a longer-term failure to address more systemic problems with Chicago's police department, Emanuel appears to have lost much of the city's trust. His approval rating has hit a record low of 18 percent, and 51 percent of residents think he should resign, according to a new poll from the Illinois Observer.
For Emanuel, trust is the most critical element right now for him to take any meaningful action to help a wounded Chicago. And it's increasingly difficult to envision a scenario in which whatever Emanuel does isn't viewed as a political Hail Mary to save his career by understandably frustrated and suspicious Chicago residents.
President Obama's former chief of staff has a reputation for being a savvy political operator a real tough guy who plays politics like chess. But in every new twist and turn of the McDonald shooting, Emanuel has appeared to act only after he was backed into a corner by political pressure.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Shooting down one candidate now does not help them. It would allow Democrats to coalesce around another candidate before the convention.
valerief
(53,235 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)After the investigation RHAM will very likely be cleared,
the police are the ones in trouble.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)What you are trying to do without evidence is make
a political prosecution on Rahm: because you don't
like his school policies.
When someone is charge with anything: it should be on the
facts or evidence: not on a political bias.
Rahm was popularly elected, and the police did the killings
not Rahm.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/134316NCJRS.pdf
https://www.ncjrs.gov/criminal_justice2000/vol_2/02c2.pdf
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/15/blood_money_killer_cops_how_privatization_is_funding_the_racist_logic_of_americas_police/
http://www.privatizationwatch.org/
http://www.progressillinois.com/posts/content/2015/07/29/chicago-city-council-roundup-dyett-civil-disobedience-stop-and-frisk-0
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)And live happily ever after.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)will find a home in a hedge fund or on Wall Street with the rest of the lying, power-hungry sociopaths. He will fit right in.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)the police will have to be cleaned out:
like the Ferguson, Cleveland, Texas, etc.
The Justice Department is slow but they are sweeping
and tuff if they find wrong doing.
Nothing has been charged on Rahm: If justice is important
at all, it is important for everyone.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)One doesn't have to literally pull the trigger to do something wrong.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)What we do know :is that the police uniformly lied
to everyone about their story.
Chicago has an independent body that makes decisions
about police criminal activity: and like Obama, its
illegal for Rahm to interfere, or it would be smack
of the Major personally handing about justice with
out due process. (those were the days of J Daily)
What has been learned so far is that police have stem-mic
corruption.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)McDonald
Homan Square
In response to Ackerman's exposés, the police department released a statement insisting that it "abides by all laws, rules, and guidelines" when interviewing suspects and witnesses at Homan Square. Emanuel echoed that language in an interview with a local news program a week later. But now, with the nation's eyes on Chicago, the scandal is primed to explode again.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/rahm-emanuel-chicago-police-homan-square-scandal
CPS no-bid scandal
The comments come on the same day the Tribune reported the mayor's office was more involved in the $20.5 million contract than previously disclosed and was fighting the release of public records that could shed more light on how the deal came to be.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-rahm-emanuel-school-contract-questions-20151012-story.html
He gives a shit. Do you know who doesn't give a shit?
The Obama admin. Rahm is Obama's mayor. A DOJ investigation of Rahm = A DOJ investigation of Wall Street
Rahm's one lucky mothereffer. Imagine, having POTUS stump for you. What city has ever had that, IDK??? Imaging, being the POTUS's mayor.
It's the Obama admin that doesn't give a shit.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The emails show Emanuel staffers discussing the existence of dashcam video of the killing in early December of last year, as Emanuels re-election effort was entering the home stretch. The city sought to suppress the video for over a year before a judge forced Chicago to release it to the public last month. In the early weeks after the killing, police insisted McDonald had lunged at Van Dyke with a knife something the video proves to be untrue.
(snip)
When the mayor watched the video is not the key question for those wondering if Emanuel either allowed or inspired a hush-up during an election. The rub is in when Emanuel became aware that the story his police department had told was incorrect, regardless of whether hed seen the evidence of the lie with his own eyes. The prospect of documentary evidence confirming Emanuels team knew of evidence that contradicted the official story especially given the rapid and unsought $5 million payout to McDonalds relatives days after his re-election could be far more damaging.
The story does say there isn't a "smoking gun" proving that Rham had seen the video. However, it would seem extremely unlikely that he would not at least hear a summary of the video, if not see it himself, before approving the $5M payout.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)We need facts: not hostile political critic's of the major information:
all politicians have detractors.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Why'd Rham approve the $5M payoff?
If your claim is correct and he had no idea about the video, he was horrifically negligent handing out $5M.
If he did know about the video, he helped to cover up the crime and delay prosecution for a year, during which he barely won re-election....and African-Americans were a big part of his barely-winning coalition.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)How convenient that Rham has set one up!! Why, I'm sure his investigation of himself will be as unbiased as Christie's investigation of himself.
Also, we have facts. The video existed. It was illegally kept from the public for over a year. Charges were not filed until the video was released. The family was paid $5M, before they even filed a lawsuit. That $5M included strings like not suing the city and not discussing the case.
All facts. All relevant. All make utterly no sense if Rham knew nothing.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)We don't know if Rham was set up, and you don't if there
have been any convenience for Rham. ( these are your accusations
nothing more).
Rahm is a smart man, he tends to get ahead of most things,
but he is not responsible for micromanaging the police and their
criminal activity himself.
If Rahm had any idea of about this problem he would not have been
caught tying to catch up on this problem.
Sorry, unless their evidence that Rahm has done anything he
should keep working to fix things
Stop shifting the blame: The policeman killed the young man,
and the police lied about what happened to everyone, they
are ones that need a trial
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Pre-lawsuit was a new twist, demonstrating that the city knew just how bad this was.
Set up how? He approved the payoff.
have been any convenience for Rham
Could you restate this in a coherent manner?
but he is not responsible for micromanaging the police and their
criminal activity himself.
He approved the payoff. Does he regularly approve $5M payoffs without finding out what the payoff is for?
caught tying to catch up on this problem.
Yeah...it's not like he was facing a close election where this coming out would cause problems or anything.
should keep working to fix things
Again, Rham approved the payoff. Why'd he do that if he had no idea what was going on?
and the police lied about what happened to everyone, they
are ones that need a trial
Because illegally holding the tape for a year is nothing. And Rham just signs whatever checks the police put in front of him, he couldn't have possibly known what he was approving.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)McCarthy asked the mayor to appoint a blue-ribbon panel of experts to recommend sweeping reforms to how the city investigates police misconduct and disciplines officers...the superintendent aimed to give the mayor justification to push for major changes to city laws and the police union contract, which was being renegotiated at that time, to make misconduct investigations more transparent.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151209/loop/feud-between-mccarthy-citys-lawyer-blocked-police-reform-sources-say
McCarthy has beans to spill. Unfortunately, the DOJ is interested in one thing: exonerating Obama's mayor.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Patton, from Kirkland & Ellis, did the the obstruction.
By choosing Patton to be the City attorney, Rahm showed where his true allegiance lies.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)...I for one don't accept his hands off alibis.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Arrogance only gets you so far. Multimillions don't hurt, and having friends like Rauner make it even more vile.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)montanacowboy
(6,081 posts)This asshole is bad news - remember what he called us "Retarded" yep, Retarded liberals
Hey Rahm - who is "retarded" now?
He fucked up the schools so bad in Chicago and now is a mouthpiece for the corrupt police department.
Go away and never come back.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)granted they knew each other from PBO's Chicago days, but couldn't he see what a jerk and, in my opinion, false Democrat Emanuel was (and is)? I don't get it.
Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #10)
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sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)It sure isn't Kansas anymore and Bernie supporters sure don't act like Dems.
murielm99
(30,724 posts)tells you something about a lot of Bernie supporters, doesn't it?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)It's our inherent bullshit detectors that are being set off by Dem party luminaries and those they're trying to send to positions of power. Rahm's an ass - I doubt I could stand casual conversation with him - not that I'd ever seek to have such. I'll bet he had a BIG hand in developing the TPP & TIPP which would peg him pretty good as to just who's side he's really on.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Treant
(1,968 posts)AllyCat
(16,173 posts)"Non-Democrat" labels at Bernie supporters, how about addressing the issue? From the beginning, we knew PBO was a corporate man. And while he has done some great things, there have been some glaring gives to big business (TPP, mandatory private insurance, double down on testing in public schools-ESSA). He's not the progressive we needed, but has done more good than the alternative the oligarchs gave us in '08 and '12.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Its possible to dismiss his third waywardness and ignorant swinishness without their loyalty being questioned. No one brought Obama into this but you. Now we have loyalty tests administered by you? I'm an FDR dem. Does that make me satan too?
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)In your response you stated:
If you actually read the posts you would have seen ....
fleur-de-lisa posted this:
granted they knew each other from PBO's Chicago days, but couldn't he see what a jerk and, in my opinion, false Democrat Emanuel was (and is)? I don't get it.
hifiguy responded to fleur-de-lisa:
tend to stick together. Vultures ARE birds.
Then I responded to hifiguy ...
See how that works?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The first time with great hope and enthusiasm, the second time only because he wasn't Mittwit.
Dissatisfied customer here, and for many specific and easy-to-articulate reasons, none of which involve unicorns.
I feel free to criticize any and all politicians for rational policy reasons. I am a lifelong Democratic voter, not a fan-club member.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)and Obama has been a huge disappointment to me, my friends, and my family. All of us voted for him. We are all sorry we did.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I may have been let down by him, but I have no doubt that he is a very good and decent human being. I even think he's a darn good president who's been bamboozled not just by the GOP, but members of his own party. If Bernie wasn't running and Barack could run again, I'd vote for him.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)It's a good question, along with other good questions about his corporate-friendly appointees, and whether that's what we were really voting for in '08....
randys1
(16,286 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)Even questions about sitting Presidents.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)But then I understand the two party system.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Any criticism of any kind, however rational = bashing.
Like I said, I am a voter, not a fan-club member. There IS a very substantial difference.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Ditto.
Cha
(297,026 posts)it's really not as funny as you think it is.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Simply questions.
We live in a democracy. We're allowed to question.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... with him appointing Goldman Sachs alumni, Summers and Geithner, doing diddly squat to rein in the despicable depreadtions of his Wall Street backers, and promoting a corporate coup d'etat in the form of the Trans-Pacific Partnership? I adored Obama when he was campaigning, and he has accomplished some good things, but I will NEVER forgive him for the TPP. That's final.
I am a Liberal down to my DNA, but "My Party right or wrong, my Party" don't cut it in a democracy. If someone - ANYONE - transgresses, they deserve to be called out for it.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)if you don't like criticism the internet is probably not a good place to be.
.
LiberalArkie
(15,705 posts)year or so have we seen Obama being Obama without the minders telling him what they want. He even seems a little more peaceful also.
dmr
(28,345 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)although that wouldn't explain his aligning with Republicans to push push push for TPA/TPP a few months ago.
LiberalArkie
(15,705 posts)getting a loan from the mafia. No matter how many times you pay it back you are never really free.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)He doesn't seem to have any outstanding "mafia" loans.
LiberalArkie
(15,705 posts)It seems now that being a Senator is now the starting place.
When Bill Clinton first ran for US Rep against John Paul Hammerschmidt and barely lost was something in itself. But jumping in as Atty Gen was a surprise in Arkansas. That is usually done by someone being a Prosecuting Attorney first and before that a practicing attorney. So he had a big debt to make the jump he made. With only minor opposition in the primary and no opposition at all in the general election, Clinton was elected. He has always had interesting elections.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)White rode in on Reagan's coattails, and the Democratic Party establishment blamed Clinton's loss on his being "too liberal". When he came back in '82, both he and (especially) Hillary had a more corporate look about them.
LiberalArkie
(15,705 posts)just can't remember which election he went begging.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I'm not sure about his gubernatorial campaigns.
Interesting that both (Jackson) Stephens and Tyson apparently threw their support behind Bob Dole in '96, claiming that Clinton's presidential policies were damaging to Arkansas industries.
LiberalArkie
(15,705 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)unreasonable.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)because that's what your argument is, simply aping the eight years of republicans demanding that the (Republican) presidency be sacrosanct, above criticism, with all dissent voiced cast as "RINO," "disloyal,' "unamerican,' etc. Sadly a large number of Democrats seem to have taken the "if you can't beat 'e, join 'em" school of thought, and this is just one manifestation of that.
Obama's very much Third Way, in policy if not in signed-and-sealed membership to the actual group itself. Like it or not, Third Way is a political faction in our party. And like it or not, a sizable portion of the party's base isn't too enamored of that. So that means whether you like it or not, there are going to be criticism of the president and the Democratic Party, from actual Democratic voters, who get to have an opinion about the party and its figures.
And I'm afraid, sunnystar, that you don't get to declare people to not be democrats on basis of whether htey share your opinion or not.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)If Rahm and the President acted like Dems, Bernie supporters would be behind them 100%.
As it is, we're behind the President when he acts like a Dem, and against him when he acts like a Republican.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)When it comes to horse turds like the Catfood Commission and the TPP we tend to get kind of grumpy.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)Are we at that point that even criticizing Third Way politics or DINO actions doesn't make one a "good Dem"?
Ever think that demanding our elected officials act like Democrats might make one a good Dem?
This is why we can't have nice things. Turd Way or no way.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and never question or doubt the Anointed Ones.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Or meet your wrath?
I'll take the wrath, please ...
Better yet, Ms. Sunny Person ... See ya never ... Gone
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)engage in idol worship. Rahm has been an asshole forever. Why would Obama choose him? Do you have an answer?
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Not when you make up things that aren't actually there.
Man, reading between the lines when there is only one line! Clever boots!
See I could come back with "So you support Rahm!". But you already know how to play.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It's another thing to expect them to adhere to Democratic values. Rahm is a shyster that calls himself a Democrat.
I can see how it would be easier to just go by the label and believe all Democrats are the same.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)or are working for the GOP
ornotna
(10,797 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Some here are just too obvious.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)ornotna
(10,797 posts)There's you.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)but mostly I support him and was thrilled when a non-white guy won the presidency.
(And before anyone starts calling me names, I am an ardent Bernie supporter!)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)than I had been for any candidate since I cast my first presidential vote for Jimmy Carter in 1976.
When he promptly appointed HRH and Geithner, one of the arsonists of the Wall Street meltdown, I realized I had been royally chumped. A lot of us did.
kath
(10,565 posts)redwitch
(14,943 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)becasue Penny Pritzker wanted him there.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)don't bite the hand that feeds you.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Penny Pritzker is worth $2 billion and was Obama's finance chair in his 2008 campaign.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)yup.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)The Third-Way Narco-Capitalism that Wall Street offers up isn't Food, it's Poison.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)get you into the WH and you play ball.
LuvLoogie
(6,971 posts)I remember a quote from years ago after a pretty good night electorally for Democrats across the country. A reporter had asked Rahm if he had any Presidential ambitions, and he demured saying "No. My carreer is in the House." I think the young Congressman was thinking Speaker.
Years later, Barack got elected. It was the perfect time for Rahm to begin coalescing his powerbase while Barack's agenda was being advanced with Dems in control of both the House and Senate. Barack had other ideas.
The President saw Nancy Pelosi as his ally and Rahm as potentially setting up roadblocks or conditions to passing the Presidents's agenda. He wanted Nancy to be able to work without a potential rival in the House. As a result, I think the Progressive caucus are a stronger group than the Blue Dogs. Had Rahm still been in the House, I think the Blue Dogs would have had a bigger influence on the legislative agenda during President Obama's administration. I think it would have been harder to get the ARRA and the ACA passed with Rahm still in the House.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Rahm.....The Gate Keeper!
None Shall Pass!!!!!....except those with lots of MONEY.
When Obama chose Rahm as CoS, I KNEW we had all been "had".
Hope & Change was nothing more than a campaign slogan that had little to do with his actual administration.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)SOB type. Someone should have beaten him to a pulp when he was younger.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)When they were younger. I don't think violence and abuse teaches anything but violence and abuse.
cui bono
(19,926 posts).
AllyCat
(16,173 posts)I donated to Garcia, but don't live there and couldn't vote for him.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)I am so enjoying watching him squirm.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I'll kick in a couple of bucks.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Wait till Penny P hears about this.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)him and his cronies.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...will be ok without being the mayor.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)never understood why he has to drag the rest of us down with his corrupt ass. Go be a fucking hedge fund manager or some shit.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)with a smarmy shitbag personal style. Just a thought.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Kiss* him, yes, embrace him, no.
*Il bacio della morte
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Can't wait to see him on the campaign trail with Hillary.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)He could care less about working people, about the poor, about the rights of people who don't look like him. And that is why I support Bernie -- because he cares about other people.
The Democratic Party in-crowd which Rahm Emmanuel exemplifies is not the Democratic Party.
They have own positions of power and hang out with each other. They could care about the real Democratic Party -- which is the ordinary people that turn out at the polls on election day.
Rahm Emmanuel should resign.
But I have to say that many of us are to blame that the Rahm Emmanuels own our Democratic Party. We don't join the Democratic clubs in our neighborhoods. We don't want to go to meetings. We allow people like Rahm Emmanuel to take over the political leadership. And I have to criticize myself with this statement because I have been unable to attend meetings due to family issues this year.
But if you possibly can, join together and MEET with Democrats who live in your community. We need to take our Democratic Party back. You can't do that unless you are willing to work within the organization and become a leader yourself.
We can do better than the Rahm Emmanuels of this world. You are part of the solution.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)as sure as eggs is eggs. A turd that bobs to the surface.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)majorities that evaporated within two years
Why in the hell would you want someone like that on her team
The man is toxic and he doesn't appear to be that bright
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Response to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...isnt it
mucifer
(23,521 posts)Medical students did a "die in" in front of his office stating they don't want to continue working on the bodies of kids coming to the hospitals. This is on local Chicago news every day.
I really get tired of people blaming the protesters.
MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)From September-
Posted at 11:12 pm on September 2, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | 165 Comments
On August 31, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel held his first public budget meeting in four years and was met with a very hostile crowd consisting of Black Lives Matter Chicago activists and some hunger strikers.
Emanuel took the stage for Round 2 of the budget meeting tonight, and things went even worse for the mayor. The Chicago Tribunes Bill Ruthhart was there among the chaos.
Hey, look: Its Black Lives Matter Chicago.
November-
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/1134721/hundreds-protest-laquan-mcdonalds-deadly-shooting
December-
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/09/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-chicago-call-for-rahm-emanuel-resignation/
Just a few articles.
mucifer
(23,521 posts)There might be nationally. Every day the protests are on the local news.
MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)He apologized profusely during his re election campaign guaranteeing he learned his lesson. He lied.
I watched his whole speech yesterday. I can understand that he is under massive pressure, but he brought it on (all troubles) all by himself.
Worst of all is his close fiendship with our tea party governor.
KG
(28,751 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)HE played the politics completely internally between the police department and the city council. He lost sight of the people themselves and it all came back on him fourfold.
He's got no other choice. It's over. If he doesn't resign, he'll be recalled.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)either would bury a murder film. No one who lived in Chicago as long as him could do that and claim he didn't know about things. He knew. He just did the same as everyone else, colluded on murder.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Something always bothered me about that, and I just figured out what it is.
Hillary is mimicking Obama's gesture of wiping off her shoulder. That is supposed to suggest that she is just wiping an insult or a hurt or something intended to insult or hurt off of her like a duck shaking water off its back. It's supposed to suggest that she is unaffected or unperturbed by the insults and accusations being thrown her way.
But her face and the rest of her body communicate anger. They communicate that she is not at all relaxed in the face of the nasty criticism of her. She looks stiff and angry.
And that is why that video does not communicate the calmness that the gesture Obama makes and that Hillary is imitating at all. To the contrary, it communicates a sense of angry arrogance. That is one of the traits that makes Hillary so unappealing as a candidate.
That video says a lot. Hillary has a temper problem. And that is not good. Not good for her as a candidate. Not good for America's future should she be elected. Her temper is riled when SHE is attacked or criticized.
In contrast, Bernie's temper is riled when he sees injustice.
That short video of her pretending to wipe something from her shoulder captures the precise problem with Hillary and the reason that her negatives are so high. She should not be running for president. She does not have the temperament or lack of ego that job requires.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Of course, your Sanders supporting buddies who host in GD constantly ignore the SOP to help remote your candidate.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Thanks for managing to put it into words so well. To me it reflects her attitude to all who don't kowtow t her, though in that one instance it was justified.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Which adds a layer of irony on top of that arrogance.
MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)There has been talk in the legislature of making it so, but man, that opens up a whole 'nother can of worms.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/illinois-democrat-proposes-bill-recall-chicago-mayor-emanuel
Iggo
(47,545 posts)That made me laugh.
MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)One has been introduced in the statehouse, but it isn't law yet. And it's not clear it could be retroactive.
Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)Is that a thing anymore?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I'm not saying he shouldn't resign, but I'd have to see who the next mayor is before I could say it would restore any faith.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)In Chicago everyone is bent.
mucifer
(23,521 posts)For decades, Burge was able to continue abusing suspects without scrutiny, largely because Chicago officials turned a blind eye. It wasnt until 1990, after reports appeared in the alternative weekly Chicago Reader, that there became growing momentum for disciplinary action against him. Amnesty International called for an investigation, but Mayor Richard M. Daley, running for reelection in 1991, was reluctant. Though he knew about the torture during the 1980s from his time as states attorney, he continued to ignore calls for an investigation when he became mayor.
But there was no video of it back then so we shall see how the current mayor does.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)Sorry. Couldn't resist.
reflection
(6,286 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)So sad......not
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)So Illinois does have recall! Gov. Rauner (R-Left State Without Budget) should be next.
mopinko
(70,067 posts)the lawmaker is proposing a bill to allow for a recall. we do not have it now. i gotta doubt this is constitutional.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)mopinko
(70,067 posts)we can impeach the governor. and i suppose this bill could stand, as that is the way it went down when they dumped him. passed a special bill just for him, then used it. so....
me, honestly, i dont lay this at rahm's feet. i doubt the cops kept him in the loop. i doubt they recognize his authority over them at.all.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)and then fought the tape being released
if it was not for the foia requests winning in court that murdering cop would never have been charged
for anyone else this would be an obstruction of justice charge
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Sarcasm.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)leading lights within the community who can negotiate a path out of this situation.
He's going to have to do some horsetrading to regain some of that trust, and he will need some heavy hitters to help him.
If he comes out of this intact, he will owe people, and he'll have to be more accommodating.
If he doesn't come out of this, well, it will be an interesting time in Chicago, politically.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Nt
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)He's been awful as a mayor, and now it's exposed that he's been corrupted. He must go.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)if his face was on fire.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I fully blame Rahm for making sure the promise of the Obama White house was shut. He was the imp whispering into Obama's ear, whose only regret was, in his own words, that he did not stop the president from taking on Health care. He is exactly the sort of "Democrat" that we need to outright throw out!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rahm-emanuel-begged-obama-not-to-push-health-care/
He then got his brother to help contain the benefits of what is let, a man who think people should die at 75:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
Why, afraid your insurance companies will not be able to pay a bonus if too many make it to 80?
May Rahm be driven from the party, and may the wounds be inflicted by healed.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Any person who stands by Rahm is supporter of corruption and injustice
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kath
(10,565 posts)Of justice, withholding of evidence, conspiracy to subvert the course of justice, or whatever US/Illinois terms apply. Throw the book at the asshole!
marmar
(77,064 posts)RichVRichV
(885 posts)There's 3 ways machine politicians leave office in Illinois.
1) They retire because they've made sufficient money from payoffs.
2) They die. (natural causes or otherwise)
3) They get convicted of a crime and go to jail.
That's pretty much it in this state. Hopefully it'll be number 3 for Rahm. All we usually end up doing is replacing one crook with another.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)llinois and nearby rw talk radio stations would be defending him instead of attacking him.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)The republikkan rag has been his apologist and pom-pom cheerleader
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts).....lucky her.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Rahm's not going to resign. He'll serve out his term as mayor.
Y'all are funny.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)he can kiss his hopes of higher office and more influence in the Clinton administration goodbye. Hillary will not ruin her already "sterling" rep by trying to wipe the oil off that bird's feathers.
Now, if Clinton helps him, it will be yet another sign that she really really really does not want our votes.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)She'll find a place for someone she has so much confidence in.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)she's a f-cking ret*rd too!
JVS
(61,935 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)may not be the most strategic move Hillary could make. But I agree, he'll be kicked upstairs in some capacity. Maybe he'll get a plum assignment an an ambassador.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)So is being White House Chief of Staff which is why Emmanuel now exists as a local politician.
Running cabinet departments is mostly not step toward advancement in politics either. Typically, those departments are headed by people with executive experience and some knowledge in the department's portfolio. Mostly, the cabinet departments don't provide a lot of media exposure unless things go wrong.
This is one of the things that makes Clinton's campaign unlike others in my lifetime...which is to say, all the way back to Truman. I suppose one might argue that Sec State more regularly engages higher profile politics and that her tenure there was rather more political than engaged in development of nuts-and-bolts level policy.
Still, that's an uncommon path to the WH.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)but usually when I make that hope, someone turns out that stupid. At this rate I fully expect a rahm/Schultz ticket by 2024
Hotler
(11,409 posts)Hhhmmmmmmm!
Blue Owl
(50,325 posts)Tis the season...
zentrum
(9,865 posts)He hires the Police Chief. He knew everything. He must be recalled unless he resigns.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)of being a thug.
mopinko
(70,067 posts)law on the books here. the guy is proposing one now. it aint gonna go anywhere. and i cant imagine it would be constitutional.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)(with their accompanying derisive laughing smilies, seem to have vanished.
Chuy Garcia would have been worse than this HOW, exactly?
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)told the press that it had been his dream all along to be the Mayor of Chicago.
Now he is.
IMO, he hasn't been a very good one. If his approval rating is at 18 percent, it looks like I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)It's just not in their psyche.
Unless they can nail him for a felony or worse level crime, they're stuck with him for the remainder of his term.
And remember, folks, egomaniacs are big on revenge - why I've heard of examples where they even keep revenge lists stretching back for decades. Their need for revenge further fuels their pursuit of power.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)that Trump possesses. The revenge thing is spot-on as well.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Perhaps Democrats across the country are finally waking up to the fact that they've been hoodwinked and doubled talked for the past 3 decades by this unscrupulous bunch.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)A pox on all corporatists of any Party.
Rahm-bo (along with Geithner, etc.) showed the problems and hypocrisy of the Obama administration early-on.
k&r,
-app
ileus
(15,396 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)...it's no easy task to reform one of the most powerful and historically corrupt police departments in the US. Police can get pretty persnickety when anyone tries to rock their boat.
You can nail him for his complete mishandling of the McDonald case and for being an asshole in general.
But expecting him to clean up the Chicago PD is like demanding that a six year-old single-handedly build a shopping mall before she's seven - and then taking all her dolls away if she doesn't do it.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)If Krispy Kreme is still walking around and going to Cowboys games on the state credit card then Rahm ain't going no where.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)except, oh, maybe all of us?
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)More Kabuki theater by the Obama administration. Rahm is Obama's mayor and friend, moreso than his relationships with Wall Street.
Nothing is going to stick to Rahm. Even if they investigated one of his other cover-ups, the CPS no-bid scandal. This admin wants to exonerate Rahm.
When you hate on Rahm, remember this
Rahm is Obama's mayor.
arthritisR_US
(7,286 posts)and not themselves and their cronies.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Let's hope this ends his political career
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