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babylonsister

(172,746 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:41 PM Dec 2015

As The GOP Was Calling Obama A Weak Leader, He Got The Rest Of The World To Halt Climate Change

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/environment/as-the-gop-was-calling-obama-a-weak-leader-he-got-the-rest-of-the-world-to-halt-climate-change/


By Christian Drake
Environment, Politics, News, World
December 13, 2015
As The GOP Was Calling Obama A Weak Leader, He Got The Rest Of The World To Halt Climate Change


I want to know exactly how much President Obama is going to change the meaning of “lame duck” during what’s left of his second term. The guy just got the entire planet to unanimously agree to something. Contrast that to any two random Republicans. You couldn’t get them to agree on the color of poo. I can hear it already: Republicans will call this accomplishment another “failure of leadership.”
President Obama just got approximately 200 nations to agree to cooperate together on a plan that addresses climate change on a global scale, and we didn’t even have to invade a country to do it.

The entire free, industrialized world agreed unanimously under our president’s leadership, to enact deeper cuts in emissions to a level that would not only halt further rising of global average temperature – but also allow for a slow reduction in it as well.

In short, the agreement sets to limit the average temperature to 2 degrees celsius, with an eventual goal of 1.5 degrees. Along with the limitation curve, there was an agreement that the majority of the world’s fossil fuel reserves will be left to remain in the ground.

According to Think Progress:

‘1.5°C is a critical threshold for all ecosystems,’ Samantha Smith, leader of the Global Climate and Energy Initiative at WWF International, said in a press conference. ‘It’s the Arctic, it’s coral reefs, it’s tropical forests, but not the least, it’s every person who is living in the Pacific islands and a coastal area.’


CO2 and other greenhouse gas emissions have leveled off and are projected to stay level into approximately 2030. This shows that raised awareness of climate change, coupled with new green and renewable technology has had a real impact before the agreement was even made. The purpose of the agreement is to ratchet up standards more incrementally over time, to meet a low enough level to sustain 2 degrees celsius or lower, and give humanity a secure future.

I am so proud of my president this day. Thank you, Mr. Obama, for leading the rest of the world into the territory where Republicans fear to tread.
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As The GOP Was Calling Obama A Weak Leader, He Got The Rest Of The World To Halt Climate Change (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2015 OP
Well, yes, but.... Turbineguy Dec 2015 #1
The Question Is How - Which Countries Will Voluntarily Reduce Their Use Of Fossil Fuels cantbeserious Dec 2015 #2
India says Paris climate deal won't affect plans to double coal output, Reuters 12/14/15 progree Dec 2015 #13
Thats the problem. The thing has so many holes in it. Just a lot of glad handing 7962 Dec 2015 #14
Obama? former9thward Dec 2015 #3
The enforcement mechanisms were in the streets of Paris Sat. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #16
They were hosed off the streets by the police. former9thward Dec 2015 #18
I can't find any mention of the Paris Police doing that on Saturday 12/12/2015 WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #31
LOL former9thward Dec 2015 #32
He hasn't got them to do it yet. They may have agreed to do it and that is a good first totodeinhere Dec 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #5
would we like some TPP on those burgers? hmm nt msongs Dec 2015 #6
Cutting down from five to four after a five-year review period, at which point . . . . hatrack Dec 2015 #21
The rest of the world is more cooperative with Obama... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #7
Thanks, Babylonsister. The reaction from our own side (so to speak) is just nuts. Hekate Dec 2015 #8
The President deserves praise DaveT Dec 2015 #9
This is an accurate assessment. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2015 #10
+2 nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #19
Leadership in dealing with a problem that republicans deny even exists is not going to change their pampango Dec 2015 #11
The devil is in the details maggies farm Dec 2015 #12
"He Got The Rest Of The World To Halt Climate Change" Umm, uhh, no he did not progree Dec 2015 #15
Can you quote one single major foreign newspaper cerditing the COP21 to Obama? Yorktown Dec 2015 #17
agree completely, but Obama worked hard to keep the US from being the reason it failed karynnj Dec 2015 #27
True Yorktown Dec 2015 #35
India, China, Saudi Arabia 'happy' with climate pact, AFP, 12/12/15 progree Dec 2015 #20
Thank you, Mr. Obama, for leading the rest of the world. Surya Gayatri Dec 2015 #22
Glad that's over madville Dec 2015 #23
Climate change is over now? Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #24
No. But thanks for the kick as babylonsister Dec 2015 #25
K & R Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #26
Hahaha TransitJohn Dec 2015 #28
His ability to lead on the international stage was never in question. Orsino Dec 2015 #29
Fuck the GOP and their Nazi memes. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #30
Halt climate change? HAHAHAHAHA NickB79 Dec 2015 #33
Halt climate change might be a bit of an overstatement melman Dec 2015 #34

Turbineguy

(40,039 posts)
1. Well, yes, but....
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:39 PM
Dec 2015

not wishing to destroy the planet is a sign of weakness to the GOP.

As everybody knows, real men destroy their own planet. While they are on it.

progree

(12,948 posts)
13. India says Paris climate deal won't affect plans to double coal output, Reuters 12/14/15
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:15 PM
Dec 2015
India says Paris climate deal won't affect plans to double coal output, Reuters 12/14/15

India still plans to double coal output by 2020 and rely on the resource for decades afterwards, a senior official said on Monday,

... "The environment is non-negotiable and we are extremely careful about it," Anil Swarup, the top bureaucrat in the coal ministry, told Reuters. &quot But) our dependence on coal will continue. There are no other alternatives available."

While India has plans to add 30 times more solar-powered generation capacity by 2022, there were limitations to clean energy and coal would remain the most efficient energy source for decades, he said.

Minister for Power, Coal and Renewable Energy, Piyush Goyal, said India's contribution to global greenhouse gases emissions was just 2.5 percent with 17 percent of the world's population, while developed countries contributed a fifth of emissions with just 5 percent of the world's population.

"While contributing to (the) growth of renewable energy, energy conservation & efficiency, we'll make sure our development process (does) not get hampered," Goyal said in a post on Twitter.

More: http://news.yahoo.com/india-push-ahead-coal-plans-paris-climate-deal-110724335--finance.html


So just a mere doubling over the course of 4 long long years. Maybe that's a slowdown in the rate of doubling or somesuch

I wonder if China has improved on its agreement a year ago to stop growing emissions by 2030
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Thats the problem. The thing has so many holes in it. Just a lot of glad handing
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:16 PM
Dec 2015

China not being required to report actual numbers is a joke

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
3. Obama?
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:41 PM
Dec 2015

This conference was one of a series which have been going on long before Obama was president or anything else. He did not lead the world to anything. Also this conference has absolutely no enforcement mechanisms and no real commitments by the major polluters, China and India. The developing world has not agreed to any limits and they never will.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
31. I can't find any mention of the Paris Police doing that on Saturday 12/12/2015
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015

Amy Goodman covered the event live and said nothing about that, so yes I did miss that.
Care to send proof.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
32. LOL
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015

I see you mentioned a very specific date even though these protests have been going on for many days now. So no, I can't provide a link to YOUR specific date as you try and make people think their were protests only on one day.

French Police Fire Tear Gas At Climate Protesters In Paris



http://wnpr.org/post/french-police-fire-tear-gas-climate-protesters-paris#stream/0

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
4. He hasn't got them to do it yet. They may have agreed to do it and that is a good first
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:42 PM
Dec 2015

step. But now comes the hard part, actually doing it rather than just talking about it.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

hatrack

(64,831 posts)
21. Cutting down from five to four after a five-year review period, at which point . . . .
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:59 AM
Dec 2015

. . . new alternatives to burgers (fish sandwiches, fried chicken, biscuits & gravy) would be considered, with weight loss scheduled to begin sometime 35 years from now . . .

thesquanderer

(12,999 posts)
7. The rest of the world is more cooperative with Obama...
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:56 PM
Dec 2015

...then our own Republican congress is. And we're supposed to be on the same side, relatively speaking.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
8. Thanks, Babylonsister. The reaction from our own side (so to speak) is just nuts.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:03 PM
Dec 2015

I understand that when there were breakout sessions, leaders/representatives of major countries went to listen to smaller countries, and that Obama sat with representatives from Pacific Island nations. When has anyone from the US ever done that before? Those countries will be completely extinct if the seas keep rising, and I can't even get DUers to give a damn.

DaveT

(687 posts)
9. The President deserves praise
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:09 PM
Dec 2015

For this effort.

The headline absurdly overstates what Obama personally contributed and what the conference accomplished.

Obama did not get the world to do this by himself. He played a significant role.

Nor will this halt climate change. It is a good step toward it.

Obama has been a major disappointment in too many ways, but he has some very good pluses on his record in office.

This was one -- it could wind up being his biggest.

Good on Barack for this major diplomatic performance.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. Leadership in dealing with a problem that republicans deny even exists is not going to change their
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:28 PM
Dec 2015

minds. But who cares?

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
17. Can you quote one single major foreign newspaper cerditing the COP21 to Obama?
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:14 PM
Dec 2015

It's a long haul teamwork.

If any credit is to be given, it's to the UN IPCC (and French diplomacy as facilitators)

But with Obama at least, there won't be presidential foot dragging.

karynnj

(60,949 posts)
27. agree completely, but Obama worked hard to keep the US from being the reason it failed
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:16 AM
Dec 2015

It is sad reality that the US blocking the international effort - even - under a supportive president is where we were at least since Kyoto. Credit should be given that he found a path that could lead to something better than most thought possible - even as it was less than many wanted.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. K & R
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:07 AM
Dec 2015

This is going in the right direction, getting countries to the table to admit there is a climate problem is a big start. Not to admit this isn't a good start is following the GOP denial.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
29. His ability to lead on the international stage was never in question.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015

Well, yes it was, but only by the wing nuts who oppose him in everything he does.

They were just powerless to prevent this deal from being reached.

NickB79

(20,332 posts)
33. Halt climate change? HAHAHAHAHA
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:42 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sorry the author of this piece is so naive when it comes to the science of climate change and what was agreed to at Paris.

Short answer: the accords in Paris gives the world's goverments DECADES to PEAK their carbon emissions. China and India are still committed to INCREASING emissions until 2030. A detailed reading of the commitments made by the nations in Paris shows we have almost no chance of keeping global temps below the danger zone of 2C with their most recent pledges.

The work in Paris didn't halt climate change. Paris tapped the breaks a little bit on a car speeding 100 MPH down the highway, heading towards a brick wall.

A true climate accord that could realistically halt climate change would require a hard cap on carbon emissions within the next few years at most, and a hefty tax on carbon. But we will never get this, because economic growth trumps the climate every time.

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