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Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:18 PM

America is kind of scaring the shit out of me

Where in the blue ass hell are these people at Trump rallies coming from? What hole did they crawl out of?

Even in the back hills of Kentucky if a family member runs their face in such a bigoted way it is made crystal clear to them very quickly that kind of idea is unacceptable. Flap your stupid pie hole in public with that kind of hate you'll be pretty much shunned by the community.

Oh they'll tolerate you disowning your daughter if she takes up with a black guy. But people in the small east Kentucky towns are appalled and offended anyone would harass, spit on or attack a woman simply because she's wearing Muslim religious garb - or threatening to bodily injure someone because they "look muslim" or "look gay".

WHY are we tolerating this from any political candidate? We sat around the let Turdblossom get away with his little whisper campaign about McCain's black daughter and tolerated the Quitter's yapping about Obama being a terrorist and now we are going to sit around and let Mr. Bankrupt prove to us this whole country has lost it's fucking mind.

Honest to gracious if my husband was not eyeball deep in chemo I'd be pulling together a bunch of women in the most severest black niqab or burqa or whatever you call it and hound Trump and his supporters everywhere they go doing zagareet as loud as possible.

We have to stop this craziness. Black kids are getting shot every 5 minutes. Woman in scarves are getting spit on and threatened........... We didn't learn anything when Gabby got shot...........

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Reply America is kind of scaring the shit out of me (Original post)
KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 OP
hollysmom Dec 2015 #1
deutsey Dec 2015 #6
hollysmom Dec 2015 #8
deutsey Dec 2015 #9
hollysmom Dec 2015 #10
deutsey Dec 2015 #12
randys1 Dec 2015 #55
forest444 Dec 2015 #88
deutsey Dec 2015 #93
HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #19
KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #91
Scuba Dec 2015 #2
WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #48
pangaia Dec 2015 #53
niyad Dec 2015 #66
ibegurpard Dec 2015 #3
Doctor_J Dec 2015 #4
meow2u3 Dec 2015 #5
RKP5637 Dec 2015 #56
erronis Dec 2015 #57
TommyCelt Dec 2015 #84
erronis Dec 2015 #86
2naSalit Dec 2015 #7
Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #11
LuckyLib Dec 2015 #47
GliderGuider Dec 2015 #13
Hekate Dec 2015 #14
saidsimplesimon Dec 2015 #15
Rex Dec 2015 #16
wendylaroux Dec 2015 #46
jalan48 Dec 2015 #17
KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #29
jalan48 Dec 2015 #64
kairos12 Dec 2015 #18
saidsimplesimon Dec 2015 #20
Tab Dec 2015 #21
justiceischeap Dec 2015 #22
byronius Dec 2015 #23
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #24
alarimer Dec 2015 #25
Blus4u Dec 2015 #59
Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #70
potone Dec 2015 #26
bvf Dec 2015 #33
potone Dec 2015 #36
bvf Dec 2015 #42
jtuck004 Dec 2015 #74
StandingInLeftField Dec 2015 #83
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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:21 PM

1. They have always beenthere - your crazy uncle

your sweet old aunt, your cousin you always wondered about. The difference is Trump gives them permission to not hide their crazy, crazy is celebrated and encouraged to go more and more extreme. I belong to a harmless group where our group mentality encourages us to do the extreme, but the extreme is good things. Things I never thought I would do, adventures in traveling alone. Trump does the same thing but for evil.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:54 PM

6. Yep, they used to be on the margins back in the '70s when I was growing up

But the change goes back to before Trump.

Thanks to the GOP and their interests pandering to this mentality for decades and changing the overall political discourse and process in this country, it's now become mainstream. Trump has finally just torn away the smiley face the GOP has used to cover this ugliness since Reagan.

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Response to deutsey (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:56 PM

8. the change goes back from before trump, but he is ramping them up to new levels.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:59 PM

9. Exactly

As someone said, he's replaced the dog whistle the GOP once used with a bullhorn.

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Response to deutsey (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:01 PM

10. Cruz ias making it worse as well, what a repellent man.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:05 PM

12. I didn't watch the "debate" last night

but I've heard Lindsey Graham's moronic/repellent rant about wanting Bush back as president.

And the cheers that followed it.



If any one of those fools somehow manages to gain the White House...I to think.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:20 PM

55. Cruz is appealing to all non liberals who arent part of the establishment or system.

He hates all the right people, he pretends to be an outsider to government.



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Response to deutsey (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:25 AM

88. There's been a deliberate effort to radicalize white voters in this country.

And to the extent it's been successful, it's probably more than anything thanks to pig boy himself:

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Response to forest444 (Reply #88)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:12 PM

93. Agree 100% n/t

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:43 PM

19. This is mostly an insult to the crazy who are much more compassionate

than the anxious sinking-class rabble calling for fascism to save their privilege from the results of their voting history.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:04 PM

91. That, my friend, is one apt observation: calling for fascism to save their privilege

 

from the results of their voting history.

My deepest and sincerest compliments!

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:22 PM

2. Yep, we're on the verge of becoming everything we despise.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:30 PM

48. So this is how it starts. n/t

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #48)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:18 PM

53. No. If we do not elect Bernie Sanders, this is how it ends.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:11 PM

66. no, it is simply that the veneer has been pulled off, and the horrible, ugly, racist, ignorant,

genocidal strain that has been at the bedrock since the europeans invaded is now visible for all to see. no more pretense.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:26 PM

3. like another said

It's always been there. But now they have permission to let it run wild. That is why it must be stamped out vigorously.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:40 PM

4. It will get worse until someone hits back

 

hard. We saw with Cliven Bundy that the government won't do anything about right wing domestic terrorists. It's going to fall on us, or we can just give up.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:47 PM

5. These guys have been members of hate groups

They've been largely uninvolved in politics until tRump came along. Then they all came out of the woodwork like the cockroaches they are.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:26 PM

56. Yep, exactly! They now have a flashy savior in Trump who pretty much tells them all of their hatred

makes them great patriotic Americans. Trump is the most dangerous I've seen come along.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:34 PM

57. No. They are paid actors. Doesn't anyone remember the RumpHole buying people to attend rallies?

All you need is a few $100's spread to 10-20 people in an audience. They are paid to incite discourse and violence. Just like his brown-shirt compatriots - paid to stir up hatred.

I don't trust any activities with any of these clowns, and perhaps even ones on the other side of the aisle. It is all about getting media attention.

If enough dimwits watch these antics on their T.V.s they might actually think the actors are representing how they, the dimwits, feel. It's so easy to lead the willing to slaughter.

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Response to erronis (Reply #57)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:26 AM

84. From a few of the Trump apologists on my FB...

(yes I know, I know. Sometimes it takes awhile to rid yourself of a pest problem)

They've have been accusing Democrats of planting the "Seig Heil/Burn them" offenders at Trump rallies along with the protestors, all to paint the Trumpeter in a worse light (not that he needs much help).

Doesn't hold up to Occam's Razor. On the contrary, this almost cartoonish representation of offensiveness fits very neatly into the Trumpeter's narrative.

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Response to TommyCelt (Reply #84)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:06 AM

86. Agree. And sorry about your Trumpeter FB "friends"!

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:54 PM

7. From the deepest dregs

of intellectual hell where pretzel logic is the dominating philosophy and where trunptydumpty can be found castigating residents for being there because loooozers!

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:04 PM

11. He's an adolescent boy's power fantasy

And his supporters feel powerful vicariously through him.

Just because people don't act a certain way in public doesn't mean they don't secretly want to.

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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:26 PM

47. This. He appeals to people who don't read or think more deeply than

tee-vee, who rail at "those people" (everyone who isn't white and Christian), and who feel the world changing around them due to forces they can't control. tRump is giving them permission to vocalize their frustration.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:18 PM

13. Someone called my comparison of today's America to Rwanda in 1993 "hyperbole"

 

I'm not so sure it is.

Preparation for genocide

In March 1993, ... the CDR were publicly accusing the president of treason. The Power groups also believed that the national radio station, Radio Rwanda, had become too liberal and supportive of the opposition; they founded a new radio station, Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLMC), which broadcast racist propaganda, obscene jokes and music, becoming very popular throughout the country. One study finds that approximately 10% of the overall violence during the Rwandan genocide can be attributed to this new radio station. During 1993, the hardliners imported machetes on a scale far larger than that required for agriculture, as well as other tools which could be used as weapons, such as razor blades, saws and scissors. These tools were distributed around the country, ostensibly as part of the civil defence network.

The weapon of choice in America today isn't a machete, it's a Bushmaster .223.

I'm NOT saying that anyone in America is planning a genocide. I am saying that when hate speech fans the fires of social division, and personal armaments are involved, shit can go downhill really fast.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:29 PM

14. Thank you for saying this, KentuckyWoman....

And may both your husband and you enjoy abundant health in the New Year.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:33 PM

15. Thank you, KentuckyWoman


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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:34 PM

16. Skinhead types always are on the edges of society waiting for their next Hitler.

 

They live and feed off of anger and hatred for all mankind.

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Response to Rex (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:09 PM

46. ^^exactly^^ nt

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:42 PM

17. The media's help create Trump.

His supporters feel emboldened by all the press he gets (and vicariously they get as well). In past years Trump would have been ignored and would have remained a fringe candidate. The crazies who support him would probably not even have voted. The real question is why the media continues to give him free air time. Is it really all about ratings and money?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:43 PM

29. It's not just Fox anymore

I agree with you on this.

When we someone like David Muir told to treat Trump seriously it's gone way beyond letting the buffoon snag some ratings.

At the very least we need to figure out how to take the bullhorn the media gives him out of his hands.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:47 PM

64. They want Trump's message out there. That's a big part of it I think.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:42 PM

18. They have always been there. tRump has given them political and moral cover

to come out of their skulking hidey holes.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:46 PM

20. Omaha Steve needs US

He may not appreciate my comments. I am concerned for his well being. He has published his struggles with a debilitating mental disease. Please support his threads with this in mind.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:49 PM

21. To play devil's advocate

Our side has a nasty reputation for what I would call the "not disturb the hornet's nest" mentality. However we, like them, are figuring out it's not enough and we need to ratchet up our pro-activism. It certainly seems the Republican extremists have ratcheted it up too.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:50 PM

22. It's all about political correctness really

I hear this from conservatives all the time. They're "tired" of being politically correct. They're "tired" of worrying about hurting a marginalized groups feelings. They feel it impugns upon their freedom of speech to speak kindly or gently of other people. So here we have a guy running for President that will pretty much say whatever pops into his head, crass or not, and it gives the conservatives that are "tired" of being kind a license to let loose their ugliness that must be the thing that's really tiring for them but they're too insincere to admit it.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:02 PM

23. I'm wondering what they're all going to do when they lose.

They've been feeling empowered, crawling out from under their rocks to spew the 1400's at us. They're going to have a serious meltdown when they're roundly defeated in November. Then they'll either die more quickly or come out shooting, or some combination thereof. It's the end of the world as they know it.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:04 PM

24. “The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny

 

at home." ― James Madison

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:12 PM

25. They've always been there; he just gives them permission.

If you've spent any time in the south, or in small towns, you will recognize them. They are legion. They all go to church, too.

It is not new. For a time, people were discouraged from spewing their hatred, but it's never gone away.

I've spent more than enough time in small towns to know that I, as a progressive and an atheist, am an alien. I am not American and should leave. That is small-town (and red states generally) American for you, rotten to the damn core.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:48 PM

59. ^^^what you say here^^^

Except it is not only small town, and not only the uneducated or poorly educated.
I have lived my adult life in the south, NC, GA, LA & TX. I am now 64. I worked as cubicle drone in Fortune 500 companies. Some of the worst bigots were in management. And southern churches are full of them!

Peace

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Response to alarimer (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:29 AM

70. I know what you are talking about.

 

I don't go to church and don't know any white Democrats. Small town red state America. They'll be happy to tell you you're going to hell if you're not their particular narrow flavor of Protestant. And they shoot up Adopt-A-Highway signs put up by atheists in Orange, Texas (right on the LA border).

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:27 PM

26. I'm scared, too.

As others have noted on this thread, these people have always been here but they are being emboldened by Trump. They seem to me to be like the people who supported George Wallace in the 60s and 70s and Jesse Helms in the 80s.

I think that there are a lot of things to blame for this: the totally irresponsible and downright ignorant media, our unequal educational system that leaves so many people woefully unprepared for life in a complex world, and--let's face it--downright racism and bigotry. These people are motivated by fear, which turns into resentment and hatred. I do think that in a country that eschews the idea of a common good and glorifies so-called rugged individualism this is the inevitable result.

As in the case of so many things, I blame the Reagan revolution for the social context in which we all live, although I know that it has deeper historical roots than that.

Sigh. I do think that Trump won't win, but we have such a long way to go to become a truly civilized society, and we won't get there until we are willing to re-examine our priorities and especially our dependence on war as a basis for our economy.

Thus endeth the sermon. I hope I haven't sounded too preachy; if so, please forgive me. I am feeling very discouraged right now.

I wish you all a good day.

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Response to potone (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:52 PM

33. They may be emboldened,

 

but they're also exposed. As the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. If their emergence shocks some sane but otherwise politically apathetic people out of their complacency, we can only hope the latter become engaged enough to get their sorry asses to the polls.



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Response to bvf (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:15 PM

36. Very good point.

If enough people are shocked by their rhetoric, this could happen. Thanks for the encouraging reply!

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Response to potone (Reply #36)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:48 PM

42. You're welcome.

 

Most voting-age American citizens are so disengaged from political events that it's often difficult to find a bright side. I really do think this will prove an exception.



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Response to bvf (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:44 AM

74. Have you noticed that the more sunlight he gets, the more followers show up? More like weeds than

 

germs.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #74)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:07 AM

83. ^In total agreement^

We have to take tRump and Cruz seriously - moreso Cruz than tRump, as Cruz is actually an intelligent (and sinister) character.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:34 PM

27. I ain't scared so much as really fuckin pissed!

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:40 PM

28. And it's being promoted and pushed by the richest and powerful...

CBS Radio Network...it's our traffic channel in Los Angeles...I listen going to and many times coming from work (so that if there is some wreck that happens after I leave the house, I can change course ASAP)...it has been endless Rump, non-stop Rump...and the verbiage is never negative...a real eye opener was to see the comments from the head of CBS a few days ago, loving the Pukes and Rump for all the advertising dollars, keep it up he said.

It's all disgusting and is beyond bad for America. It stirs up crazy and hate, as the rich and powerful laugh, and get MORE rich and powerful.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:44 PM

30. "WHY are we tolerating this from any political candidate?"

 

Because they have the right to say controversial things, and that's a right I'd defend for any candidate, any day. In my opinion, it's actually refreshing to hear a candidate go out on a limb (both Sanders and Trump do this), even when they know it's going to rile feathers. When's the last time a Clinton, Bush, etc. was willing to rile feathers?

We don't have to like it, but if we're surprised they're getting this much support, perhaps it's us that's been living in a hole, and not their supporters?

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:52 PM

32. I'd bet some in his audience are agent provocateurs, hired by Trump

Hired to do crazy shit that gets attention. The guy that yelled some nazi slogan may have been a paid actor, as well as the guy that yelled to set fire to the m-f. Even the protesters could be hired for that role in a Trump audience. Trump is theatre.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:57 PM

34. This is Fox Noise as the Sorcerer's Apprentice

As an arm of the Republican Party, Fox obviously wants one of their own to be their candidate. They liked Trump as long as he stirred the waters and drew more of the crazies out into the open, but they definitely did NOT see him as their ultimate standard bearer. They just built him up to bring out voters. Oops. Not THOSE voters. Now that he has been more successful than they ever imagined, they are freaking out, as their Frankenstein's monster has turned out to be a creation far more dangerous to themselves than they ever imagined. As with Goethe's Sorcerer's Apprentice, "Die ich rief, die Geister, werde ich nun nicht mehr los (the spirits I have summoned, now I cannot be rid of them)."

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Response to DFW (Reply #34)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:21 AM

69. Thanks for that!

 


You educated me as to the source of The Sorcerer's Apprentice. I've played the piece by Paul Dukas several times and of course we've all seen the Mickey Mouse cartoon. But I didn't know it was written by Goethe. As a musician, I come by these literary works in another form, music and opera, and often don't know the source of the story.

I know Goethe & Schiller wrote the bases for many great musical works, but have not studied German, so I didn't know the backgrounds. Romance languages are my thing. German tends to baffle me even though English is a Germanic language. I took Spanish and Latin in school and that showed me what logical grammar structures and easy to understand verb forms looked like.

Any German I picked up, I picked up through music, as in "Heilege Dankegesang"Beethoven) and "Schicksalied"Brahms). In high school at music camp we played Also Sprach Zarathustra. I wondered why Strauss didn't put his tempo directions in Italian like normal people.

I remember being baffled by "Sehr langsam". Instead of "allegretto" or something I understood. Not to mention that Strauss loved all keys equally so wandered through them all. Or it seemed like it.

There are some German words that are essential in English, like "schadenfreude" and "zeitgeist". Every time I see Willie Geist on MSNBC I wonder if he knows he's a ghost.

And back on the subject of the Frankenstein monster created by Fox News, I saw editorial cartoons several years ago predicting this exactly. A Frankenstein monster that the powers that be could not control.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #69)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:34 AM

78. I didn't study German so much as live it.

Coming to you today live and in color from my home (for once!) in beautiful suburban Düsseldorf. My job takes me to a different country every day. My wife is German and we speak German at home. Any gaps in my Germanic cultural inventory, she makes up in spades. I started with Swedish, which is far easier than German, and have since learned Dutch as well. As we live about an hour's drive from the Dutch border, and I am in the Netherlands almost once a week, it's almost impossible NOT to learn it. Once you know German, Dutch is a snap.

Actually, I not only took Spanish in school, but lived there for a while as a teenager (though in a part of Spain where Spanish is not the main language), and majored in it in college. I also now speak Italian, French and Catalan (lived in Barcelona).

Plenty of German names mean something or other. I wonder of Dan Rather knows his name means he is from another suburb of Düsseldorf (Rath)?

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Response to DFW (Reply #78)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:52 AM

79. Very cool.

 

You are fortunate to live in civilized society. I am getting health insurance on my own Jan. 1 thanks to Obama and the ACA. First time ever without being a dependent of someone else and I am almost a senior citizen, because he made them stop rejecting people with Pre existing conditions. That is a disgrace.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #79)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:04 AM

80. Civilized in some aspects, not all

Though the era of Soviet/Nazi style of all-powerful state institutions controlling every aspect of your life is now over, the mentality that spawned it is still very much just below the surface in many aspects--further below the surface than in France (current version, anyway), but still lurking, nonetheless. It's a trade-off--the laissez-faire "you're-on-your-own-kid" tendencies of the States as opposed to the European "we-know-what's-best-for-you-and-you-don't" model. Some people fare better in the one, others fare better in the other.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:14 PM

35. Love this post!

You truly have a gift for writing.
I agree totally.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:15 PM

44. Thanks.......... but

if I am considered good at writing then the bar has dropped pretty low indeed. Back in my schooling days I was considered average at best.

But the state of our educational system is another rant for another day.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:19 PM

37. k and r

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:20 PM

38. Me too...

 

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Response to Triana (Reply #38)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:07 PM

92. That blew me away

Bowie and the rest of the world is right to fear us. We have become quite dangerous.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:25 PM

39. These are the people who supported George Wallace.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #39)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:33 AM

72. I was horrified

 

when my grandmother voted for George Wallace in '68, as she had been a good FDR supporter and saw how his programs brought people out of severe poverty. My mom brushed it off, saying "her husband influenced her".
That woman was such a drill sergeant that nobody could influence her. Racism just under the surface.

Telling us teenagers that we should watch Lawrence Welk. That "Y'all shouldn't listen to that NIGRA MUSIC" when we were trying to tune in Dick Clark and American Bandstand on Saturday morning. We just laughed our butts off behind her back.

Maybe we should have said, "Yeah, that Dick Clark, he's REALLY REALLY BLACK" just to be sarcastic.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #72)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:00 AM

77. Each generation gets better, not worse....

 

This latest one wants to OWN this century and wants to ditch the last one.

Every so often I think of the transition between the 19th and 20th. They were leaving behind the last traces of Europe and the Civil War and the genocide of the Indians and the expansion Westward by covered wagons. They were looking at a radically different modern world with paved roads for the new invention called the automobile.

Radical change away from the old into the new is the norm, not the exception. As is expansion of conscientiousness and we will soon have legalized WEED to help in that regard.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:42 PM

40. "A cartoon rich person"

From John Mulaney:

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:44 PM

41. I noticed that about small southern towns.

They defend their own even if their own is different. My incredibly conservative, Southern Baptist aunt lives in a town of about 200 or so. There was a couple who lived a few houses down from her and the husband was a cross dresser. They used to see him wearing his wife's dresses while hanging out laundry. There were a few jokes, of course, but when his wife died suddenly you better believe there were just as many pies, cakes, and casseroles delivered to his house as there would have been to anyone else. Just about everyone in town came by to sit with him and offer comfort. That's just the way they are.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:01 PM

43. Ironically, ARTE TV (a French/German channel here in France) ran a compelling and pertinent,

 

but equally perturbing documentary on the very night of the latest Republican debate/hate-fest.

The resonances were uncanny. Title of the programme? "Mein Kampf, Manifesto of Hate",



"On 1 January 2016, over 70 years after the death of its author, Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf will fall into the public domain. Should we republish it as the founding document of Nazism? ARTE's documentary explores the issues raised by this sadly infamous work, the focus of so much controversy and fantasy.

The "founding document" of Nazism, written by Aldolf Hilter during his emprisonment after the failed putsch of 1923, is both autobiography and political manifesto. In its more than 700 pages, it exposes the spirit of revenge, the obsessive hatred of Jews and the desire for German expansionism of its author."


I was glued to the screen. The historical parallels with the political climate in the US are profoundly disquieting.

At the end of the film, one of the German researcher's conclusions just hit me right between the eyes:

"What is the most important lesson to be drawn from this catastrophic chapter of European history? That a nation's political life may appear to have a semblance of "normality", but that things can tip over into insanity in the wink of a eye."


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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:16 PM

45. It's all part of perfectly crafted plan.



We have nothing to fear but ourselves.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:33 PM

49. I endorse this message! +1 K&R

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:07 PM

50. I kinda thought k-12 would have provided some level of sanity for our society by now.

 

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:08 PM

51. Thanks to you, sister!

I'm sitting here in the bible belt in Tennessee and hear this hateful, racist, ignorant shit from the mouth-breathing, bugger eaters every day. I'm SICK of it!

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Response to anniebelle (Reply #51)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:19 PM

54. Hi anniebelle!

Fellow TNer here. It's bad isn't it. I dread the holiday get together so much now because of the rampant stupidity and meanness.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:16 PM

52. They have always been there Trump has made it acceptable to be bigot n/t

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:35 PM

58. Thank the alternate reality the right-wing has created for itself.

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Response to LS_Editor (Reply #58)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:18 PM

60. True - the price that comes with forty years of propaganda.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:57 PM

61. The nation is uniting against these asshole Republican extremists.

Republicans are even abandoning their party.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:18 PM

62. These people have always existed,

they're just too chicken-shit to express their true opinions when not in a crowd of like-minded idiots. Trump's rallies provide a venue where they feel safe.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:30 PM

63. Decades of right-wing corporate media propaganda

 

I LMAO when I hear one of the freaks complain about the "liberal media."

Anything to the left of Josef Goebbels is liberal to millions of ignorant assholes.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:45 PM

65. Going to Arizona to spend Xmas with hubby's in-laws

My mother in law is a die hard liberal and my other is sister in law who went to college is also liberal leaning.The other sister in law says she is non political but her 4 adult children who never went to college are right wingers. Their dad raised them on rush. He divorced my sister in law and abandoned her when the kids were teenagers, but the kids adore their Dad. He used to call me the loony liberal from San Francisco. My hubby and I are taking bets on whether they are going for tRump or Cruz. One nephew joined the army because he couldn't afford college nor get a decent paying job. He wad injured in the Army, got disability and the GI bill but hates President Obama with a passion. I pointed out to him that republicans wanted to take away vet's benefits and he called me a liar. The last straw for me when he attacked poor people for being lazy! I unfriended him on Facebook. It will be an interesting Christmas with that side of the family. I personally am keeping my mouth shut over politics, my hubby wouldn't make me that promise.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:14 PM

67. I like your style

I'd don a black robe and scarf and join you, if I could. I too am wondering where all the cockroaches came from. I thought they were afraid of the light. We must be breeding some new ones.

I hope this election is over quickly and things can start to go back to normal...whatever that is.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:26 AM

68. Honestly

They used to be known as "the silent majority", but thanks to social media and free speech we know who they are and we are all horrified that many just happen to be family members...

I have personally discovered that my sister in law is severely racist. That part makes me sad.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:29 AM

71. Scare the shit out of you IS the strategy of the clown show. Mayhem is their only chance, and they

know it. The debate was like a fine tunes orchestra, with assigned sparing partners as they took turns repeating the FEAR mantra.

Personally, I had enough of the paranoid wing of the far right with the John Birchers in the 50s and 60s.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:42 AM

73. Tonight on facebook, my husband's super "Christian" nephew posted

"I'm not political!!!!! Blow the Muslims up with a nuclear bomb!! The only place we need to care about is ISREAL and the USA!!!!!!!"
Yes, that's how he spelled Israel. If you only care about two countries, you should at least know how to spell them. Well, at least he got USA right. My husband asked me not to reply, so I didn't.
Thanks for your rant, I needed it this evening, and thanks for letting me rant.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:47 AM

75. ... I cried reading this....

...I almost never cry....

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:50 AM

76. It scared the shit out of me growing up in the 80s but I got over that by 2000.

 

70s were great, but was just a kid then. Dump wants to rule and he already said he will dictate tings.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:08 AM

81. Its the diner scene from alices resturaunt

And the diner scene from easy rider all rolled into one.
Back then, they only showed their true colors when they were around likeminded people. Trump has given these cowards a little courage to act this way on camera and social media. They no longer have to bite tbeir tounge and hide the way they really feel. They see trump act this way on national tv and it has opened the floodgates

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:26 AM

82. I am with you!

I think these idiots keep their mouths shut except when in packs.

I have felt for YEARS that right wing radio has long worked to make people's most hateful thinking seem acceptable to them and absolve them of any need for introspection. Then someone like Trump puts those views right out there where the corporate news can't even dress it up! The other Republicans would prefer a tad more subtle hatred. But some of these fools still want to make chunks of this planet "glow in the dark"!

Off topic, but I'm a Kentucky Woman too, born and raised in Paintsville, but I've lived in Lexington since I came down the Parkway to UK in '82.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:52 AM

85. Faux and Friends---or as I like to call them "The Frightwing"

Unlike the family that will call out racism to a loved member in order to not let them embarrass themselves, the frightwing media encourages this behavior. They are like the people who would stage dog fights, they are in it for the money because they know there is a blood greed hidden in our genes.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:54 AM

87. Many are the old senile, rich crazies that have nothing else to do, but destroy the GOP.

Just how low can the Republican candidates get before they are thrown out of offices, whether governors, senators or others. The GOP has set up America to be controlled by the crazies, many Governing the states or in the House or Senate. We, the people have been hijacked by a failed, extreme, radical party. Until such time the voters get wise and elect those that are in office to help this nation,nothing will change. The GOP is the party of DESTRUCTION.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:30 AM

89. the type that support trump have always been here...

trump just allows them now to let the freak out.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:47 AM

90. Agreed

 

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