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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:06 PM Dec 2015

Michael Moore on Facebook: 'Today I Went and Stood in Front of Trump Tower and Held a Sign...'

https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/?fref=nf

Michael Moore
Public Figure · 1,281,668 Likes · 40 mins ·

Today I went & stood in front of Trump Tower & held a sign until the police came. Then I went home & wrote Donald a letter. Here it is:

Dear Donald Trump:

You may remember (you do, after all, have a "perfect memory!&quot , that we met back in November of 1998 in the green room of a talk show where we were both scheduled to appear one afternoon. But just before going on, I was pulled aside by a producer from the show who said that you were "nervous" about being on the set with me. She said you didn't want to be "ripped apart" and you wanted to be reassured I wouldn't "go after you."

"Does he think I'm going to tackle him and put him in a choke hold?" I asked, bewildered.

"No," the producer replied, "he just seems all jittery about you."

"Huh. I've never met the guy. There's no reason for him to be scared," I said. "I really don't know much about him other than he seems to like his name on stuff. I'll talk to him if you want me to."

And so, as you may remember, I did. I went up and introduced myself to you. "The producer says you're worried I might say or do something to you during the show. Hey, no offense, but I barely know who you are. I'm from Michigan. Please don't worry -- we're gonna get along just fine!"

You seemed relieved, then leaned in and said to me, "I just didn't want any trouble out there and I just wanted to make sure that, you know, you and I got along. That you weren't going to pick on me for something ridiculous."

"Pick on" you? I thought, where are we, in 3rd grade? I was struck by how you, a self-described tough guy from Queens, seemed like such a fraidey-cat.

You and I went on to do the show. Nothing untoward happened between us. I didn't pull on your hair, didn't put gum on your seat. "What a wuss," was all I remember thinking as I left the set.

And now, here we are in 2015 and, like many other angry white guys, you are frightened by a bogeyman who is out to get you. That bogeyman, in your mind, are all Muslims. Not just the ones who have killed, but ALL MUSLIMS.

Fortunately, Donald, you and your supporters no longer look like what America actually is today. We are not a country of angry white guys. Here's a statistic that is going to make your hair spin: Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year are either female, people of color, or young people between the ages of 18 and 35. In other words, not you. And not the people who want you leading their country.

So, in desperation and insanity, you call for a ban on all Muslims entering this country. I was raised to believe that we are all each other's brother and sister, regardless of race, creed or color. That means if you want to ban Muslims, you are first going to have to ban me. And everyone else.

We are all Muslim.

Just as we are all Mexican, we are all Catholic and Jewish and white and black and every shade in between. We are all children of God (or nature or whatever you believe in), part of the human family, and nothing you say or do can change that fact one iota. If you don't like living by these American rules, then you need to go to the time-out room in any one of your Towers, sit there, and think about what you've said.

And then leave the rest of us alone so we can elect a real president who is both compassionate and strong -- at least strong enough not to be all whiny and scared of some guy in a ballcap from Michigan sitting next to him on a talk show couch. You're not so tough, Donny, and I'm glad I got to see the real you up close and personal all those years ago.

We are all Muslim. Deal with it.

All my best,
Michael Moore

P.S. I'm asking everyone who reads this letter to go here (http://michaelmoore.com/wearellmuslim), and sign the following statement: "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" -- and then send post a photo of yourself holding a homemade sign saying "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram using the hashtag ‪#?WeAreAllMuslim‬. I will post all the photos on my site and send them to you, Mr. Trump. Feel free to join us.

P.P.S. - To sign my statement for #WeAreAllMuslim, go here on my website: http://michaelmoore.com/weareallmuslim

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Michael Moore on Facebook: 'Today I Went and Stood in Front of Trump Tower and Held a Sign...' (Original Post) Hissyspit Dec 2015 OP
Pic of Michael Moore in front of Trump Tower cal04 Dec 2015 #1
Photobucket is not letting me upload for some reason. Thanks. Hissyspit Dec 2015 #3
Fixed it. Nt Hissyspit Dec 2015 #5
off topic, but madamesilverspurs Dec 2015 #9
It Hissyspit Dec 2015 #18
Lucky you. madamesilverspurs Dec 2015 #20
So true! lol nt brer cat Dec 2015 #22
I've just gotten hooked up on Library2go with a laptop passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #43
What would be the point of being a cat brer cat Dec 2015 #47
so, dear old donny boy is a sniveling, whining coward. geez, what a surprise. niyad Dec 2015 #2
Why should Moore have been willing to move when the police came? Hoppy Dec 2015 #4
Trump opened himself for 1st Amendment protected protest when he declared.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #12
Many of those big buildings "own" a portion of the sidewalk, and standing on them can MADem Dec 2015 #52
Fabulous! This babylonsister Dec 2015 #6
Hope you signed! Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #7
mister "i know great people.i can get things done" just lost his 3rd lawsuit saturnsring Dec 2015 #8
I do not know how to do the photo thing, but I gave you a rec. oldandhappy Dec 2015 #10
I love this guy. He should of called me. IsItJustMe Dec 2015 #11
Don't tell ME to do that.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #13
LOL IsItJustMe Dec 2015 #15
Signed! zentrum Dec 2015 #14
Count me too! ‪#‎WeAreAllMuslim‬ #WeAreAllOneFamily L. Coyote Dec 2015 #16
We all believe there is only one God - Allah - and Muhammad is the messenger of God FrodosPet Dec 2015 #24
I do believe that Moore is making a larger point about inclusiveness. Maedhros Dec 2015 #31
Probably did not know that... trumad Dec 2015 #32
I watched a documentary on Anne Frank last night. Wherever the Muslims roguevalley Dec 2015 #39
The good, peaceful, liberal Muslims I would hope FrodosPet Dec 2015 #50
Yes, I did understand that FrodosPet Dec 2015 #46
The point. Maedhros Dec 2015 #54
Have a good one! FrodosPet Dec 2015 #55
"I am Spartacus!". nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #45
Yes, Trump is the Man We Need to Take On Putin! Hal Bent Dec 2015 #17
Good Night Kick nt Hissyspit Dec 2015 #19
I don't understand "until the cops came". HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #21
Is the First Amendment now illegal? 2naSalit Dec 2015 #26
Like the GOP Front-runner, for instance. HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #28
Them too. nt 2naSalit Dec 2015 #29
we are all Muslims is a statement about if one falls we all do roguevalley Dec 2015 #40
I get that... 2naSalit Dec 2015 #44
I love Michael Moore malaise Dec 2015 #23
We are all children, grandchildren, great grandchildren of immigrants. libdem4life Dec 2015 #25
Good points. Who knows the original settlers of any place on this planet erronis Dec 2015 #37
..and the wheel just keeps on turning. libdem4life Dec 2015 #41
+1 Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #27
I love MM mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #30
K&R... spanone Dec 2015 #33
Love MM. bvar22 Dec 2015 #34
In "Fahenheit 9-11" there's a scene where MM politely tried to ask Bush a question, red dog 1 Dec 2015 #35
K&R! red dog 1 Dec 2015 #36
Please no! Please let Michael Moore continue to poke at the soft underbelly of the establishment. nt erronis Dec 2015 #38
See that's the thing with our heroes...Elizabeth Warren, MM, et al. They have found their niche libdem4life Dec 2015 #42
Good point! red dog 1 Dec 2015 #49
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #48
thank you Mr. Moore Skittles Dec 2015 #51
"Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year NoMoreRepugs Dec 2015 #53

cal04

(41,505 posts)
1. Pic of Michael Moore in front of Trump Tower
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:14 PM
Dec 2015

Went to Trump Tower & held a sign til the cops came. Then wrote Trump a letter.
https://twitter.com/MMFlint

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
9. off topic, but
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:32 AM
Dec 2015

photobucket has been giving me fits, all of a sudden not letting me upload anything? May I ask how you "fixed it"? Thanks!

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
18. It
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:43 AM
Dec 2015

stopped the loading on my phone, then said it was waiting for Wi-Fi. I left the app, went to do something else, and when I opened it again, it had loaded the image. So the true answer is I don't know.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
20. Lucky you.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:30 AM
Dec 2015

I think I need to hire a 9-year-old, they always manage to fix stuff while engaging in some very impressive eye-rolling. Oh, well. Whatever it takes, eh?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
43. I've just gotten hooked up on Library2go with a laptop
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:52 PM
Dec 2015

to read library books in bed. I need an e-reader, not a laptop. Last night I was reading and one of my cats jumped right on the keyboard and poof the page was gone.

I was reminded by your gif. I wish my cats would be that 'delicate' about it.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
4. Why should Moore have been willing to move when the police came?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:24 PM
Dec 2015

There is no charge against picketing. Charges against loitering were declared "unconstitutionally vague" years ago.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. Trump opened himself for 1st Amendment protected protest when he declared....
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

These wannabe tyrants don't get that they're supposed to be public SERVANTS.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Many of those big buildings "own" a portion of the sidewalk, and standing on them can
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:12 PM
Dec 2015

be regarded as trespassing. Then, when you move to the part of the sidewalk which is not owned by the building, you're "blocking pedestrian traffic."

I don't know if this is the case in this circumstance, but it might have been the rationale used.

Maybe he moved along because he had made his point--he got his picture taken, he wrote his piece, he got out the story that Trump was a wuss. Maybe his feet hurt--he's not a young man anymore. Who is?

Why make the story "Michael Moore Gets Arrested" when the thing he wants to get out is "Trump is a Chickenshit?"

babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
6. Fabulous! This
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:41 PM
Dec 2015

I also love!

Fortunately, Donald, you and your supporters no longer look like what America actually is today. We are not a country of angry white guys. Here's a statistic that is going to make your hair spin: Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year are either female, people of color, or young people between the ages of 18 and 35. In other words, not you. And not the people who want you leading their country.

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
8. mister "i know great people.i can get things done" just lost his 3rd lawsuit
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:17 AM
Dec 2015

Ronald McDonald, what a clown

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. I do not know how to do the photo thing, but I gave you a rec.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:34 AM
Dec 2015

Hope that is good enough.



and will sign at the second link.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
11. I love this guy. He should of called me.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:46 AM
Dec 2015

I was in Manhattan once and walked by the Fox News building. You will have to use your imagination from there.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. Don't tell ME to do that....
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:50 AM
Dec 2015

I picture someone laying a couple of Lincoln Logs behind the curvy couch.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
24. We all believe there is only one God - Allah - and Muhammad is the messenger of God
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:26 PM
Dec 2015

We've all declared the Shahada, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

From my understanding, if you haven't, you are not a Muslim.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
31. I do believe that Moore is making a larger point about inclusiveness.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:45 PM
Dec 2015

Sort of like when JFK said "Ich bin ein Berliner" - he, obviously, was not from Berlin, but was speaking metaphorically as a way to express support for the beleaguered Germans in Berlin. Moore is using the same rhetorical device.

But you probably knew that.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
39. I watched a documentary on Anne Frank last night. Wherever the Muslims
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

go if it ever came to that, I'm going too. I am not going to wait for them to come for me too, the fucking fascists. I will go with the Muslims.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
50. The good, peaceful, liberal Muslims I would hope
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:05 PM
Dec 2015

And not the ones who execute apostates, gays, and rape victims.

Religion sucks. Right Wing Christianity, Judaism, or Islam... they are all a curse on this world.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
46. Yes, I did understand that
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:06 PM
Dec 2015

I am still not a Muslim, just like I am not a Christian, I am not Jewish, I am not a Hindu or Buddhist or Taoist or Sikh.

I support peaceful people who believe in religion. But I will not claim to be a member of any religion just to prove a point that should be made in other ways. If some people consider that position to be shallow, I guess I just gotta live with that.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
55. Have a good one!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:20 AM
Dec 2015

Yes, intentionally.

I love and respect people a whole hell of a lot more than I do groups.

Particularly groups that use fear, traditions, and social control to get their members to hate and kill "others".

/Hate me if you must, but I will never hate you.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
21. I don't understand "until the cops came".
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:44 AM
Dec 2015

Is the First Amendment now illegal?

"We are all Muslim" . . . I don't know, is that meant to incite a riot?

What harm is caused, product solicited or crime committed by holding a posterboard with words on it?

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
26. Is the First Amendment now illegal?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:25 PM
Dec 2015

According to some it is.... those who have no clue what it is.

ETA: Apparently this would include a number of LEOs.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
40. we are all Muslims is a statement about if one falls we all do
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:16 PM
Dec 2015

given that no one stood for the Jews, it would be the same thing. If the Muslims can be harmed, how are any of us safe from it? We ARE all Muslims.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. We are all children, grandchildren, great grandchildren of immigrants.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

My family changed our surname to an English spelling and pronunciation. My grandparents lost land when they built the Berlin Wall, or so I was told.

The only true Americans are those who were here before our European huddled masses arrived. And there are damn few of them left.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
37. Good points. Who knows the original settlers of any place on this planet
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

Taking Palestine, as an example that has been fought over before there were Abrahamic cults.

Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas are all fields of conquest and subjugation - whether by earlier species or by tribes of the current dominant one. And of course, we should include all living creatures in this pattern of shaping the world in our own interests.

My surname goes back in Europe for a thousand years and along the way it has been changed several times to match the "custom" of the time. (Either go along or die.)

I think it's always harder for the more recent generations that realize that their heritage was forced to fit in an imposed landscape.

Pretty soon (100+ years) the dominant whites of the USofA will start to get used to the fact that other ethnicities, origins are now in control. I hope the new ones do it better than the current ones...

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
30. I love MM
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:21 PM
Dec 2015

action echoes the american captive soldier who stood up to german captor...when he said "jews...step forward" this soldier responded "we are all jewish....don't all the rwnj's to stir up state persecution against peaceful american citizens who happen to be muslim....resist hate... maggie

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. Love MM.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:15 PM
Dec 2015

AS far as I can remember, MM is the only private American citizen who has been attacked by a sitting President during a State of the Union Address.
It was the year MM released Fahrenheit 9-11, and MM was in the audience that night when George Bush attacked a private citizen from the podium. The cameras knew where he was sitting, and after he was attacked, the cameras found him in the crowd for about 10 seconds of International Face Time.

Bush's ill advised attack on a Private Citizen for expressing his opinion had great Blowback for MM, and he picked up an extra gold star from me that night.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
35. In "Fahenheit 9-11" there's a scene where MM politely tried to ask Bush a question,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

and Bush yelled back at him: "Get a job!"

(I guess documentary film producer isn't "a job&quot

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
36. K&R!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

I. too, love Michael Moore.

"Fahrenheit 9-11" was a masterpiece!

And I've seen his 2nd film, "The Big One" at least 40 times.

If Al Franken can run for the U.S. Senate & win, why can't Michael?

erronis

(15,216 posts)
38. Please no! Please let Michael Moore continue to poke at the soft underbelly of the establishment. nt
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:52 PM
Dec 2015
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
42. See that's the thing with our heroes...Elizabeth Warren, MM, et al. They have found their niche
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:32 PM
Dec 2015

and play it well. Put them someplace else, and they might not have the edge.

Edit: Just thought of something...maybe he is getting ready to do a spoof on Trump I'd pay a lot to see that. I mean who has given such a rich volume of insanity and publicity...that in which MM is in his best element.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
53. "Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:23 AM
Dec 2015

are either female, people of color, or young people between the ages of 18 and 35."

This is the make it or break it election for Repugs if that number is accurate

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